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Localization of Seamonkey
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gw

Joined: 22 Apr 2006
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PostPosted: Sat 23 Sep 2006, 08:50    Post subject:  Localization of Seamonkey  

Hello,

I've a problem when I try to translate Seamonkey with a langpack.xpi. The installation of the langpack is OK, but after, what to do?
I haven't seen the command Edit/Preferences/ Appearance/Languages to can choose the language to use.

Thank you for your help
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Béèm


Joined: 16 Apr 2006
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Location: Brussels

PostPosted: Sat 23 Sep 2006, 10:03    Post subject:  

The languages are in Navigator | languages, not appearance.
I did have to install any xpi to have the languages I want to choose from.

If you don't have languages in navigator |languages something went wrong with your installation.
Mine is the 2.10 SeaMonkey iso.

If the languages are there, but don't work, I think you best go to a SeaMonkey help news group as there are the specialists.

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PostPosted: Sat 23 Sep 2006, 10:26    Post subject:  

Béèm wrote:
think you best go to a SeaMonkey help news group as there are the poisonous crap.


I think the forum spam-filter edited your message Laughing
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gw

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PostPosted: Sat 23 Sep 2006, 12:34    Post subject:  

Hello,

Béèrn :
Thank you for your help, but I have the problem to choose the language of the interface, not the preferences for the pages. Under Windows, for instance, you have this command under "Edit/Preferences/Appearance (Languages and contents)" which allows you to change the language of the interface of Seamonkey ( commands, menus, ... ) Of course, the corresponding files .xpi have to been installed.
Under Puppy, this command doesn't exist, so, I don't know how to obtain Seamonkey in french, german, etc...

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MU


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PostPosted: Sat 23 Sep 2006, 13:30    Post subject:  

I currently fould only one solution (only tried it in Puppy 2.10 alpha).

I downloaded from:
http://releases.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/seamonkey/releases/1.0.5/contrib-localized/

this file:
http://releases.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/seamonkey/releases/1.0.5/contrib-localized/seamonkey-1.0.5.de-AT.linux-i686.tar.bz2

I extracted it to a Linux-partition.

This created the folder:
/mnt/sda6/seamonkey

Now I renamed Puppys seamonkey from
/usr/lib/seamonkey-1.0.4
to
/usr/lib/seamonkey-1.0.4-old

And created a new symlink:
ln -s /mnt/sda6/seamonkey /usr/lib/seamonkey-1.0.4

Now when I start it, it is german, but a get a srange error-message on the bottom.
To solve this:
rename
/root/.mozilla
to
/root/.mozilla-old

Start mozilla, this creates a new
/root/.mozilla
Now copy the file
/root/.mozilla/default/XUL.mafsl
somewhere, for example to
/root/XUL.mafsl

Now delete the new
/root/.mozilla
and restore your backup, so copy
/root/.mozilla-old
to
/root/.mozilla
Now replace
/root/.mozilla/default/XUL.mafsl
with your new
/root/XUL.mafsl

I finally created this symlink, that might be used by some of Puppys programs:
ln -s /usr/lib/seamonkey-1.0.4/seamonkey-bin /usr/lib/seamonkey-1.0.4/mozilla-bin


Like this I have the latest german Seamonkey 1.0.5 in Puppy with all my old bookmarks and settings, but also 47 MB less free diskspace Wink
Mark

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Béèm


Joined: 16 Apr 2006
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PostPosted: Sat 23 Sep 2006, 13:44    Post subject:  

GW,
You didn't mention you were speaking about the language of the SeaMonkey menu's, so the install language.
Soit.
Maybe MU's post can help you, I hope so, but I still think it's more a question for the SeaMonkey guru's, well at least the question can be raised there also.
From what I experience of installing xpi's in SeaMonkey, as soon as they are installed you have to close and reopen SeaMonkey. Up to now, this has worked for me, but I never tried another language tho.
On the other side, National Language Support in Puppy is very poor. My machine is in nl_BE and I don't see anything coming in nl.

Bien le bonjour à la Suisse.

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gw

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PostPosted: Sun 24 Sep 2006, 15:52    Post subject:  

Hello,

MU : thank you for your response, it runs when I reinstall SeaMonkey, and I can choose the languages for the menus when the corresponding .xpi files are installed. Of course it takes place. I will remaster with the "Unleashed method" to can replace the Seamonkey version of the disk with the new one or replace it by opera.

Béèm : my English is very poor, but I 've got to learn English for my job. So, working with Puppy is a good exercise for me. I'm trying to create a Puppy version en-fr-de. Not always easy but it runs partially. The problem is to find the corresponding .mo files, but there are some available in other distributions, and some dotpups are also available on the website of MU to install language files . There are also some .po files available on the debian Website.
Salutation à la Belgique (je suis Liégeois installé en Suisse depuis maintenant 22 ans).

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PostPosted: Sun 24 Sep 2006, 16:00    Post subject:  

si tu comprends allemand, je peux t'aider bien sur avec des traductions anglais/allemand.

Anglais/francais est plus difficile pour moi, car ca fait plus que dix ans depuis que je parlait francais la dernière fois.

Je comprend beaucoup, mais j'ai des problemes de le parler ou surtout de l'écrire.

Et j'ai oublié ou il faut mettre tous les accents Wink

Localization certainly will be an important point in future, now that all the basic things like printing, X, and Software-installation work easily or at least make quick progress Very Happy

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jam


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PostPosted: Mon 25 Sep 2006, 12:27    Post subject: Setting Locale  

Mark,

These are free flag icons that can be used to set localization/keyboard settings versus the command line. During the first boot of the distro, Puppy can boot to a very generic 800x600 VESA setting, then the user can select their country flag to set localization/keyboard setting as well as change screen resolution and modify Vesa/Xorg settings. This would replace the character-based selection process. This is what I was envisioning for a simplified OLPC version of Puppy I mentioned in another post. There are a total of 239 country icons in this set, which is very complete. Of course, you would have to work your magic to incorporate them into a Puppy app! Smile

World Flag Icons: http://www.famfamfam.com/lab/icons/flags/

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gw

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PostPosted: Tue 26 Sep 2006, 16:52    Post subject:  

Hello Mark,

Tu écris mieux le français que moi l'Allemand ou l'Anglais. En fait, je lis assez couramment l'Anglais et l'Allemand, mais j'écris mal dans ces langues. Dès que j'aurai terminé mon fichier d'aide sur la Puppy en français, je serais intéressé de pouvoir te l'envoyer pour que tu me donnes ton avis.
Ensuite, si ce fichier d'aide s'avère utile, il pourrait bien sûr être mis à la disposition de la communauté, qui pourrait le modifier et l'adapter comme bon lui semble.
Merci pour ton investissement permanent dans le projet Puppy
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PostPosted: Tue 26 Sep 2006, 17:03    Post subject:  

Quote:
Dès que j'aurai terminé mon fichier d'aide sur la Puppy en français, je serais intéressé de pouvoir te l'envoyer pour que tu me donnes ton avis.


I would suggest to offer a "preview" version for download, so that everyone can review it.
The problem for me is, that I have plenty of things on my todo-list.

I certainly will have a look, but might reply very late depending on what is going on.
So it would be good, if other people would have a look, too Razz

I think with documents it is the same as with software, you can publish a "beta" version, were the basic things are finished, but that needs public feedback to remove wrong things.

Bien des saluts, Mark
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PostPosted: Mon 09 Oct 2006, 14:34    Post subject:  

gw,
quand tu a fini une version beta, je peux y jeter un coup d'œil.
Publi le ici.

When you have finished a beta post it here, I might be able to have a look at it.

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PostPosted: Mon 09 Oct 2006, 14:44    Post subject:  

gw wrote:
Hello,
Béèm : my English is very poor, but I 've got to learn English for my job. So, working with Puppy is a good exercise for me. I'm trying to create a Puppy version en-fr-de. Not always easy but it runs partially. The problem is to find the corresponding .mo files, but there are some available in other distributions, and some dotpups are also available on the website of MU to install language files . There are also some .po files available on the debian Website.
Salutation à la Belgique (je suis Liégeois installé en Suisse depuis maintenant 22 ans).

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Salutations au Liégeois installé en Suisse de la part de la Belgique.
I am back from a little stay in Les Ardennes Belge.
Had to come home for the vote. grrrr.
I am used to have as system interface language English, but the localization should be in BE.
Unfortunately Puppy doesn't have a en_BE support.

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