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Reformatting Drive with limited Install options

#21 Post by mikeslr »

Hi Sakrecoer,

Welcome to Puppy. I apologize for the delay in responding. I'm usually elsewhere on the Forum.
You've indicated that you wanted to reformat your ntfs drive but only had the option of a net install before you installed Lupu-528JP. So while there may be easier ways to do this, my principal concern is that you have a bootable system at all times. So the first step, if you haven't already done so, is to install GRUB4Dos --it should be on your menu-- and make certain you can boot into your current Puppy.
Except when noted below, do not reboot.
Step 2: Delete everything which doesn't pertain to puppy. Your Puppy Files consist of: initrd.gz, lupu_528.sfs, vmlinuz, lupusave-???.?fs, any other files ending in sfs (being those you've downloaded for use with puppy) and (unlikely) any folders if you've created program folders for use with puppy. You'll also want to retain gldr and menu.lst. If in doubt, don't delete it. Edit: If you're following these instructions but using a Pup created later than Lupu, the ISOs of those Pups may have files starting with adrv and/or zdrv. You'll want to copy those files. Also, re-run Grub4dos just to make certain that necessary boot files are still there.
Step 3. Reboot into puppy and start gparted, also on you menu. It will tell you how much of your ntsf partition is now unused. That was the purpose of Step 2: to create hard-disk space which was not in use. A fully fleshed out Puppy --with many sfses-- can happily exist on 2 Gigs. 1 Gig is more than enough for most purposes. So what I'd do is RESIZE the ntfs partition and create a second partition (linux formatted, Ext3 or Ext4, Edit: Pups created before Puppy 4.30 may not be able to boot from Ext4) onto which you'll install a second copy of your functioning Puppy. Before shutting gparted down, select your new partition, click "flags" and click "boot." To install the second copy, click the new drive icon appearing on your desktop. It is probably named sa2. When it opens it should be blank. Right-click the blank space and from the drop-down menu select New>Folder. Name it something like Lupu528JP2, or anything distinct from your first Puppy. Into that folder, you can copy all your Puppy files except your SaveFile, the one named lupusave-???.?sf. You can't accurately copy a SaveFile while it is in use. Re-Run Grub4Dos and install it to your 2nd partition. It should pickup and list your 2nd Puppy installation. Before rebooting, click the 2nd partition's desktop icon and then double-click menu.lst. It should open in your text editor. Change the line which reads:
kernel ... pfix=fsck to read
kernel ... pfix=fsck,ram -- there's no space between fsck and ram, only a comma
Click save to save the changes to menu.lst. Close menu.lst, but leave the folder open.
With that partition open, click the sa1 icon, and copy (drag>drop>copy>overwrite)
menu.lst from sa2 to sa1.
The purpose of the above is so that when you boot into the "new" Puppy it will not load the SaveFile of your "old" Puppy.
Step 4: Boot into your new Puppy. If you were happy with your SaveFile, you can now copy the SaveFile from your first installation into this Puppy's folder since its not in use. [When possible, always install Puppys to a folder: doing so avoids confusion, and provides greater flexibility when you want to make changes]. You should delete the ",ram" you added to menu.lst. In either case, you'll be asked when you shut down whether you want to create a SaveFile. But the purpose of this step is to format --completely wipe out-- everything on your 1st partition, which is probably named sa1. So again you'll call up gparted, and select that partition, delete it, select it again, select new and choose a Linux format, and optionally (see below) select "flags" & "boot" to make it bootable.
Step 5. After creating a new linux partition for sa1, you have many choices. You can repeat the steps above to create a copy of Puppy on sa1, with grub4dos there and (if you want) again follow the steps above to delete sa2 and then resize sa1 to use the entire diek. Or you can install a different Puppy to sa1. You can Install Grub4dos to sa1 and delete its installation on sa2. My recommendation is that you end up with the following: 2 partitions with grub4dos on sa1 and sa1 large enough to hold all your puppies together with all SFSes and program folders. Many puppys can use the same SFS. Sa2 is used for data files, a vault for pets you may want to install in future puppies (so you don't have to hunt for and download them). But in any event, before doing anything with sa2, install some Puppy (into a folder) on sa1, run grub4dos again, and make certain you can boot into the puppy on sa1.
Things you should know when considering multi-booting puppies: An SFS is an entire application you load when wanted and unloaded when not. Unless you've used a program such as "startmount" Puppy only automatically mounts the partition on which it's been installed, and sfses on other partitions will not been loaded on bootup. Program folders and external programs -- use the "well-minded" search for these with my name. http://www.wellminded.com/puppy/pupsearch.html. Once you're satisfied with Grub4dos, and don't intend to change the partition on which it's located, you don't have to run the Grub4dos application to add another Puppy to the list it will offer to boot. You can open menu.lst in a text editor and copy/paste one listing, editing a copy to reflect a different Title, the name of the folder of your new puppy and adding "ram" as mentioned above before booting into your new puppy the first time.

Happy computing,

mikesLr
Last edited by mikeslr on Thu 06 Mar 2014, 01:43, edited 1 time in total.

vittorio
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User and Password http://101.143.161.76/puppy/lupu/

#22 Post by vittorio »

for shinobar

Hi, I' can't access http://101.143.161.76/puppy/lupu/ to download the windows installer for puppy precise because it requires User and Password.

Can you tell me user and password?

Thanks in advance!

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Downloads

#23 Post by shinobar »

The IP-address is dynamic. Access via CGI:
http://shino.pos.to/party/bridge.cgi?puppy/
Or, follow the download links:
http://shino.pos.to/linux/downloads.html
Downloads for Puppy Linux [url]http://shino.pos.to/linux/downloads.html[/url]

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puppy precise 5.7.1

#24 Post by vittorio »

Thank you very much shinobar! :wink:
I can't find the windows installer for puppy precise 5.7.1 in the sites that you have linked: you don't have it?

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Change language

#25 Post by Alternativa »

Hi
I installed Puppy Linux using your installer. I managed to change all setting to English. Seamonkey is still loading in Japanese though. How can I change that.

Thanks

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Re: Change language

#26 Post by balloon »

@Alternativa
Seamonkey included in lupu-528JP seems to install only a Japanese language file.
(This will be .sfs package exactly: seamonkey-2.11-ja-1.sfs)

This problem may be settled by introducing a Web browser newly:

http://distro.ibiblio.org/puppylinux/pe ... ges-lucid/

or "Puppy Package Manager" is a method of the solution.
In addition, Seamonkey of a new version may be provided by the search in this forum.
[b]BALLOON a.k.a. Fu-sen.[/b] from Japan | ã￾µã￾†ã￾›ã‚“ Fu-sen. (old: 2 8 6)

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Re: Change language

#27 Post by shinobar »

Alternativa wrote:I installed Puppy Linux using your installer. I managed to change all setting to English. Seamonkey is still loading in Japanese though. How can I change that.
Try Portable SeaMonkey under English locale.
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=92015
Downloads for Puppy Linux [url]http://shino.pos.to/linux/downloads.html[/url]

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