Lighthouse 64 601 Beta (Closed, see first post)

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#81 Post by tazoc »

AwesomesaurusRex wrote:I'm new to linux and I've been looking at lots of screenshots online and alot of the ones I like use something called fluxbox. do you have this for your version of linux? I looked on your site but i did not see it, but I sometimes miss things by looking too fast.
Fluxbox is not currently supported in Lighthouse. There are a lot of desktops/window managers available however I think Openbox/LXPanel with Rox desktop, the default in Lighthouse 64 and Fatdog 64 is now my favorite, mostly because it is fast, reliable and looks good to me. KDE is my second, however I get impatient waiting for it to load. Fluxbox-1.3.2 is available in PPM, however ~/.xinitrc needs work to actually use Fluxbox, as currently it gets covered up by Rox or JWM. I will try to update for it as time allows, however I don't know about the flux root menus--seem not to be Xdg compliant so might be difficult to refresh when installing apps. In other words the menus won't update automatically although they can be manually configured if you know how to determine what command starts each new app.

@All,
I received the Asus G75 Notebook w/Win8 I ordered and I've been testing 602 (and Fatdog 621) with it. So far UEFI doesn't work properly with either. Boots to console OK, but X won't start, except for choosing the fbdev (generic frame buffer) driver, with very limited resolutions, as with the vesa fallback. If I disable UEFI by enabling CSM (Compatibility_Support_Module) in BIOS setup, then X starts normally. So I'm not encouraged by these preliminary results. It looks like I'll need to update the release notes accordingly. I'm also having some difficulties with the proprietary nvidia driver, though it works in Fatdog. Hope to sort that out before releasing 602.

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LH64 is touch screen enabled

#82 Post by gcmartin »

@TaZoC
Tested Mariner 601+ on HP Touchsmart TX2.

Desktop touch screen subsystem works, OOTB, for launch/drag-drop/close/etc. Tris includes taskbar and other things I would use a mouse for. Mouse, thus far, is not necessary.

Issue with Touch
Even though touch replaces the mouse for mouse button 1 operations, some apps make use of mouse button 2. Have not found a way to do mouse button 2 functions at this point in time?

Will post should I find other issues.

Thanks, again, for your help and this great work.

gcmartin

Problem with LH64 wireless on HP TX2 Laptop

#83 Post by gcmartin »

I am experiencing a connection problem with the "touch" HP when trying to connect to the wireless LAN.

Following collected from terminal commands

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bash-4.1# ip addr 
1: lo: <LOOPBACK,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 65536 qdisc noqueue 
    link/loopback 00:00:00:00:00:00 brd 00:00:00:00:00:00
    inet 127.0.0.1/8 scope host lo
2: eth0: <BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP> mtu 1500 qdisc pfifo_fast qlen 1000
    link/ether 00:23:8b:e1:71:93 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
3: wlan0: <BROADCAST,MULTICAST> mtu 1500 qdisc mq qlen 1000
    link/ether 00:21:00:eb:7c:6e brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff

bash-4.1# lsmod | grep 80211
mac80211              221415  1 b43
cfg80211              173913  2 b43,mac80211
rfkill                 14899  2 cfg80211,hp_wmi

bash-4.1# lspci | grep -ie net -e wire
08:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4322 802.11a/b/g/n Wireless LAN Controller (rev 01)
09:00.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8111/8168B PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet controller (rev 02)
FRISBEE does NOT show "the close-by" wireless networks
And, "Puppy Network Interface Wizard" yields the following messages on connection attempts:
Main box
"Test"
pop-up box 1
Error!
Failed to raise interface wlan0.
Failed command was: ifconfig wlan0 up
Error returned was:
ifconfig: SIOCSIFFLAGS: Operation not possible due to RF-kill
Main box
'Unable to connect to a wireless network' ...

Advise.

P.S. Please note, this is not a critical necessity as I expect to use the next version on LH64 on this "touch" laptop.
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Re: Problem with LH64 wireless on HP TX2 Laptop

#84 Post by tazoc »

gcmartin wrote:I am experiencing a connection problem with the "touch" HP when trying to connect to the wireless LAN.

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bash-4.1# lsmod | grep 80211
mac80211              221415  1 b43
cfg80211              173913  2 b43,mac80211
rfkill                 14899  2 cfg80211,hp_wmi

bash-4.1# lspci | grep -ie net -e wire
08:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4322 802.11a/b/g/n Wireless LAN Controller (rev 01)
09:00.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8111/8168B PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet controller (rev 02)
FRISBEE does NOT show "the close-by" wireless networks

'Unable to connect to a wireless network' ...
  1. Please run this in a terminal:

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    cat /etc/acpi/wifi-driver
    and post the output.
  2. Then use Menu -> Setup -> BootManager -> Services -> enable the BC-wl (Load proprietary Broadcom wireless driver) service -> OK and reboot.
If you still can't see any wireless networks please repeat step 1.

Re: touch screen right/middle click, I don't know. Maybe connect a USB mouse?
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#85 Post by gcmartin »

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# cat /etc/acpi/wifi-driver
b43
The screen below leads to a an error message. It yields message: BootManager not available on initial boot...Must save-session, reboot,first to see Bootmanager to configure.
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Broadcom service added, save-session and rebooted

#86 Post by gcmartin »

Wireless Problem is still with this laptop with same symptoms after recommendations followed.

Scenario:
  1. A save-session created on reboot.
  2. cat command still results "b43".
  3. Boot Manager now displays, services selected, followed with Broadcom... turned on (shown below)
  4. system was rebooted, again with save-session
  5. Frisbee still not showing available networks
  6. LAN setup also not showing available networks.
This system came with Vista. Can the MS driver be brought to bear or should I wait for next LH64 release?

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#87 Post by gasem »

Is there a way to adjust the savefile time from 30 min in a frugal install?

Tnx

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#88 Post by HiDeHo »

Hi just wondering if Lighthouse puppy is still maintained. even if not by the original developer. It is a great operating system.

i used lighthouse as my main puppy os until development stopped. then when saluki came about I went to that. now saluki is not being developed.

anyway if lighthouse is developed i will start using it again.

DO you recommend I learn how to maintain puppy so I can update and maintain the distro i like myself. It just seems like a lot of hard work to me.

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#89 Post by Jim1911 »

HiDeHo wrote:Hi just wondering if Lighthouse puppy is still maintained. even if not by the original developer. It is a great operating system.

i used lighthouse as my main puppy os until development stopped. then when saluki came about I went to that. now saluki is not being developed.

anyway if lighthouse is developed i will start using it again.

DO you recommend I learn how to maintain puppy so I can update and maintain the distro i like myself. It just seems like a lot of hard work to me.
Tazoc is now maintaining Lighthouse again as you can see with this super 601 beta distribution. He should be distributing a new beta shortly. This is one of the best pups ever.

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Re: Problem with LH64 wireless on HP TX2 Laptop

#90 Post by Q5sys »

tazoc wrote: Re: touch screen right/middle click, I don't know. Maybe connect a USB mouse?
Lol. Some people don't want to use a mouse like a normal person.
As for the answer... gcmartin has several options.

1) ask the kernel devs who wrote the driver (they will tell him to do #2)
2) grab the source code for the driver and look for himself

3) use a mouse like a normal person

gcmartin

#91 Post by gcmartin »

Thanks Q5Sys for the disruption...again. Of course, I'm sure you will try to defend it as helpful. Shame, though. Your behavior does NOT help the thread or the perceptions others will get.

Peace be with you

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#92 Post by edoc »

I took his post as humorous ... he just forgot the LOL ...

Here it is :lol:
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#93 Post by Q5sys »

edoc wrote:I took his post as humorous ... he just forgot the LOL ...

Here it is :lol:
It was both serious and factual. If he wants answers, he's going to have to go to the people who wrote the driver. Taz admitted he doesnt have that information. The source for that information: Upstream.

Even if we wanted to do the work for him and find out the answer for him so he didnt have to apply any effort, we cant because we dont know what driver he's using and what touch hardware he's got. So the ball is in his court. (or anyone else who has this problem)

But I guess him making a comment about me is more important than him wanting to find the solution to his problem. :roll:

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#94 Post by edoc »

I have misunderstood the complexities and relationships between the various elements of Puppy, and the associated apps, and have been reminded more than once which is managed by Puppy volunteers and which are controlled elsewhere.

I've also struggled with various specific elements, esp. CUPS, though that one has been relatively trouble-free for quite a while.

Now I'm looking for new trouble as I unintentionally bought a laptop that is hobbled by the UEFI nonsense and am awaiting the BETA 602-UEFI so I can test and break something ...

Puppy is a great family but sometimes we have little squabbles and sometimes things don't translate well across cultures and languages.

My son has reminded me that Aussies especially have a manner of speaking that is rather different than Americans & I recall an international student from Germany sharing that her style of speech was often misunderstood as angry/confrontational when such was not her intent.

Life in a shrinking world ...
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#95 Post by Q5sys »

edoc wrote:
Now I'm looking for new trouble as I unintentionally bought a laptop that is hobbled by the UEFI nonsense and am awaiting the BETA 602-UEFI so I can test and break something ...
Can you disable UEFI in the BIOS? Some systems allow you to do that. (mine is one of them) There also maybe a non UEFI bios image you can flash, and then flash back the stock bios after 602 comes out.

Does the Fatdog64 with UEFI work for you?

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#96 Post by edoc »

HP made no provision in the Pavilion g7 for disabling the UEFI.

I have not tried Fatdog, not sure why (I think I didn't like the default selection of apps), perhaps I should while I await a UEFI release of LH 602.
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#97 Post by Q5sys »

edoc wrote:HP made no provision in the Pavilion g7 for disabling the UEFI.

I have not tried Fatdog, not sure why (I think I didn't like the default selection of apps), perhaps I should while I await a UEFI release of LH 602.
i asked about fatdog becuase I believe lhp602's UEFI is from that. So you can check now to see if it might work for you. Once lhp602 is released, it may be different enough to negate any tests you've done with Fatdog... but its at least a reference point for you to start with.

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#98 Post by edoc »

OK, just downloaded Fatdog64-621 & burned a DVD.

Booted the HP Pavilion g7 from the DVD.

I interrupted the autoboot then chose the first EFI menu.

It ran through a "Device mapping table" then dropped to "Shell>"

I entered "exit" to return to the menu, chose Reboot then allowed Fatdog to do its thing.

It popped up a couple of screens, one including text re. "Activating radeon workaround" which too a while, then generated a badly garbled screen.

I'm guessing that I'll need to force generic video parameters at Fatdog64-612 boot so that I may get to where I can get them to set up correctly?
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UEFI support

#99 Post by tazoc »

edoc,

Q5sys is right, the UEFI support I'm working on is based on FD621. As I understand it, the recommended method for booting with UEFI is to 'dd' the FD ISO to a USB Flash drive, then boot from that. That is faster than booting from an optical drive and is ideal for booting on more than one machine. It does, however require careful entry of a couple of commands in a terminal, and a flash drive that can be completely erased, i.e., not being used for something else.

Installing FD or LH to a GPT (GUID Partition Table, UEFI standard) hard disk looks a bit difficult to me, and a mistake might keep Windows 8 from booting.

On my notebook (with Nvidia graphics) I found that booting with UEFI stalled X and eventually dropped to a command prompt. However when I changed to the fbdev Xorg driver I could start X although the resolutions were very limited. Then I installed the proprietary Nvidia driver and that seems to work better. I had to upgrade the kernel to 3.8.7 for the Nvidia driver, which took me a week or so, including recompiling kernel, kernel modules and proprietary drivers, initrd, DevX, etc.

I'm also working on the documentation and adding a preliminary dialog to the Universal Installer which directs UEFI/Win 8 usage to the above UEFI Flash drive method.

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