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jakfish
Joined: 18 Jul 2008 Posts: 766
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Posted: Wed 06 Feb 2013, 05:03 Post subject:
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Hi, Monsie,
Thanks for weighing in. I had never heard of that command and immediately tried it. Unfortunately, I'm still in pupmode=12. (That would be with the original, unedited init)
Thanks again for the tip,
Jake
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rcrsn51

Joined: 05 Sep 2006 Posts: 11889 Location: Stratford, Ontario
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Posted: Wed 06 Feb 2013, 10:49 Post subject:
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Jemimah made her suggestion here and it apparently worked for nooby in Quirky. Maybe puppeee doesn't recognize "pmedia=ataflash".
PUPMODE=13 is a much more complicated environment than 12. You may not be able to force it just by changing the init.
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jakfish
Joined: 18 Jul 2008 Posts: 766
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Posted: Wed 06 Feb 2013, 11:17 Post subject:
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Yes, when in pupmode 13 and it was trying to save, it appeared to be making a copy of everything, if only b/c all the folders in root and above were suddenly in bold text, puppy's signal that changes have been made.
But it never finished the save properly and remembered very little of what I had asked it to save.
Jake
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dalebednell

Joined: 12 Feb 2010 Posts: 119 Location: portugal
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Posted: Fri 08 Feb 2013, 05:04 Post subject:
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Hi
Thanks for this script works like a dream nice not to have the wait to shut down.
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DaveS

Joined: 09 Oct 2008 Posts: 3726 Location: UK
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Posted: Wed 05 Jun 2013, 08:19 Post subject:
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Recently set this up using Slacko 5.5. Using ext3 could not get desktop to initialise. Ext2 is fine.
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01micko

Joined: 11 Oct 2008 Posts: 8670 Location: qld
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Posted: Wed 05 Jun 2013, 08:42 Post subject:
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DaveS wrote: | Recently set this up using Slacko 5.5. Using ext3 could not get desktop to initialise. Ext2 is fine. | Might have been something changed in woof. I can't see any kernel based reason (off the top of my head). Besides, ext2 is probably better for USB anyway.
What needs to happen though is more support in woof for F2FS, which is in the latest 3.8 kernels and above and designed for nand media. It's way faster than any other filesystem and pretty stable too. If you want to try it get either PHATSlacko, ThinSlacko or pemasu's latest upups. Idealy, when F2FS becomes the standard, we can toss out restricted saving. I'm not so sure it matters anyway, as I have an old (6 yo) kingston 1 GB drive that has been formatted a thousand times with different pups and filesystems and it doesn't look like failing. Of course it will one day when least expected, but who uses flash for mission critical anyway? It's more of a convenience.
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DaveS

Joined: 09 Oct 2008 Posts: 3726 Location: UK
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Posted: Wed 05 Jun 2013, 08:47 Post subject:
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01micko wrote: | DaveS wrote: | Recently set this up using Slacko 5.5. Using ext3 could not get desktop to initialise. Ext2 is fine. | Might have been something changed in woof. I can't see any kernel based reason (off the top of my head). Besides, ext2 is probably better for USB anyway.
What needs to happen though is more support in woof for F2FS, which is in the latest 3.8 kernels and above and designed for nand media. It's way faster than any other filesystem and pretty stable too. If you want to try it get either PHATSlacko, ThinSlacko or pemasu's latest upups. Idealy, when F2FS becomes the standard, we can toss out restricted saving. I'm not so sure it matters anyway, as I have an old (6 yo) kingston 1 GB drive that has been formatted a thousand times with different pups and filesystems and it doesn't look like failing. Of course it will one day when least expected, but who uses flash for mission critical anyway? It's more of a convenience. |
With regard to speed, startup is a little slower than a HD install but I think that's down to USB bus speed.
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DaveS

Joined: 09 Oct 2008 Posts: 3726 Location: UK
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Posted: Fri 07 Jun 2013, 15:23 Post subject:
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I came across an interesting issue with this. The edit process does not work cross Puppy versions. Thus, if I want to edit init for booting Precise, I must do the edit process from within Precise, not say Slacko, and vise versa.
Maybe I should not have been surprised, but somehow I was
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Bert

Joined: 30 Jun 2006 Posts: 1106
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Posted: Wed 11 Sep 2013, 18:01 Post subject:
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I just used this method again and it all worked immediately without problems.
For Precise 5.7.1 the line in initrd.gz where you want to insert "PUPMODE=12" is now line 919.
Thanks again for this great tutorial , rcrsn51!
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Bert

Joined: 30 Jun 2006 Posts: 1106
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Posted: Fri 13 Sep 2013, 12:03 Post subject:
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For those running pupmode 12 from flash, who would like to get rid of the warning popup
Quote: | WARNING! Do not unplug usb Flash Drive. |
I found how to disable it:
* Open /usr/sbin/delayedrun as text (right-click on icon, then 'open as text')
* Go to line 232 (line numbers in Geany: View>Editor>show line numbers)
* Comment out lines 232, 233, 234 (put a '#' at start of line)
like this:
* and save.
This gives 'the HDD experience' from a tiny usb key
Just remember NOT to unplug the flash drive!
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Pelo
Joined: 10 Sep 2011 Posts: 12591 Location: Mer méditerrannée (1 kms°)
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Posted: Tue 15 Jul 2014, 07:25 Post subject:
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Very interesting ! on test bench.
All my moves and acts are permanently recorded on flash drive. Well, i shall come back and give you the return.
As a progress never goes alone, i am translating your topic to french with Precord.
Unfortunately, the MP3s are more than 250 K, i must adjust my recording time and set audio as mono.
Mp3 then are included in tar.gz to be joined in the forum to the english written topic.
Suspense, initrd.gz permuté, poweroff. A tout de suite.
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Pelo
Joined: 10 Sep 2011 Posts: 12591 Location: Mer méditerrannée (1 kms°)
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Posted: Tue 15 Jul 2014, 07:32 Post subject:
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Ok Man ! session already saved ! it works.
I run an old puprescue 0.25 remasterised with Super Lucid.
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français, écoutez, ici Londres.
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rcrsn51

Joined: 05 Sep 2006 Posts: 11889 Location: Stratford, Ontario
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Posted: Tue 15 Jul 2014, 08:25 Post subject:
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Excellent. Thank you for testing.
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