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Anonymous creatures viewing my shared file on google drive
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Barkin


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PostPosted: Sun 21 Apr 2013, 06:37    Post subject:  Anonymous creatures viewing my shared file on google drive
Subject description: New anonymous creature icons in google drive		  
Just noticed a weird thing on google drive today : multiple anonymous creatures appear to be viewing a file I intend to share, (see attachment).
However the file is "only those with link" so how do these anonymous creatures know about my file , I haven't sent the link to anyone yet ?
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only those with link can view (but I haven't disclosed the link to anyone).gif
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puppy_apprentice


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PostPosted: Mon 22 Apr 2013, 12:10    Post subject:  
i think that somebody wrote script (maybe brute force method) to prepare links and check them if they work, something like:

https://docs.google.com/file/d/XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX/edit?usp=shari

where XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX is random number or taken from list of numbers (dictionary)

but if u check part of your link (https://docs.google.com/file/d/) in Google Search u will get some results, try to check this in Google Search:

"https://docs.google.com/file/d/, name of your shared file"

maybe u will find your link
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Barkin


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PostPosted: Tue 23 Apr 2013, 05:16    Post subject:  
puppy_apprentice wrote:
i think that somebody wrote script (maybe brute force method) to prepare links and check them if they work, something like:

https://docs.google.com/file/d/XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX/edit?usp=shari

where XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX is random number or taken from list of numbers (dictionary)


Accurately guessing XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX by brute force would take trillions of centuries : it's about 30 alphanumeric characters, upper and lower case, [ a dictionary wouldn't help as it's random-looking gobbledygook ]

The only legitimate reason for this I can think of is that the anonymous creatures are generated by me viewing the page, as no other user should know the URL of the file I was about to share.

e.g. some token is generated when someone views the page and that token persists in the google system for a few minutes after viewing the page, so if you visit that page again within that period your previous incarnation still exists and is shown by an anonymous creature icon.
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Makoto


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PostPosted: Tue 23 Apr 2013, 06:14    Post subject:  
I wouldn't be surprised if they were bots - possibly Google's, to aid in indexing, or even checking to make sure you're not storing anything that shouldn't be there. Neutral

It's probably a good idea to ask Google about it, if at all possible, though.
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nooby

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PostPosted: Tue 23 Apr 2013, 06:47    Post subject:  
Don't they have a googlegroup for the Drive so
them maybe also has seen these bots?

I know nothing but thought of that they may know?
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puppy_apprentice


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PostPosted: Wed 24 Apr 2013, 05:20    Post subject:  
script with generated XXXXXX is one of the solutions and yes it takes some time, but your link don't have to be sent to anybody to be used, Google Spiders/Bots will add it to the search dadatase i think, it is the same if u upload some files on your server and don't put links to them on your page - they are still easily accesible (eg. via Google Search, some hackers use Google to find eg. files with passwords etc.)

i've checked this in Google Search:

Code:
"https://docs.google.com/file/d/, Barkin"


and found those to files:

https://docs.google.com/file/d/0ByJAC-sfXwumZzI2bVlON2VTMnFyYVZZSnpDYnNyQQ/edit?pli=1

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1wv-PfzG8aGp43ZF-vARPbcJaRRSJWJ8FXlMcQIrOiOo/preview?pli=1

i don't know if you have GD account as Barkin (and it those files are yours), but it is possible to find some files using eg. my phrase in GS

i think it is not problem with security but it is normal GD behavior (and those annonymous creatures could be you own trials too as u said)
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Barkin


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PostPosted: Wed 24 Apr 2013, 05:54    Post subject:  
puppy_apprentice wrote:
i've checked this in Google Search:

Code:
"https://docs.google.com/file/d/, Barkin"



I don't use "Barkin" as a pseudonym with Google services.

I just tried googling "https://docs.google.com/file/d/" and my gmail email and thankfully no hits.

Googling the full URL of the shared file (no X's) gets no hits either.
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puppy_apprentice


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PostPosted: Wed 24 Apr 2013, 06:07    Post subject:  
so it seems and those was your own trials, and files that i found were published with flag "public" or something (i was using Google Docs some time ago but if i remember well it was possible to save files as public, visible to others) by another user/s
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Barkin


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PostPosted: Wed 24 Apr 2013, 07:55    Post subject:  
puppy_apprentice wrote:
... files that i found were published with flag "public" or something ...

More likely someone had actually posted those google URLs on the internet, say in a forum.

puppy_apprentice wrote:
... i was using Google Docs some time ago but if i remember well it was possible to save files as public, visible to others


I've never made my Google Drive files searchable via the web ...
I always choose ''anyone with the link'' , I'ver never tried ''public on the web''.png
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I always choose ''anyone with the link'' , I'ver never tried ''public on the web''.png
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puppy_apprentice


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PostPosted: Wed 24 Apr 2013, 09:29    Post subject:  
so it seems like u have noticed your own trials, try to prepare another file (honey pot Laughing ) using "only those with link", let the file will be text file with name eg.
Code:
passwords
or
topsecret

and text inside
Code:
"if u got acces to this link, please send me info about it to xxxxxx@xxxxxx or post message in this thread http://murga-linux.com/puppy/xxxxxxxxxx"


who knows, maybe we will get answer if it is something wrong with GD and don't use this link for yourself for a while (week or two) to not get false positives Laughing
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