(OLD) (ARCHIVED) Puppy Linux Discussion Forum

Gnuxo · Joined: 09 Feb 2012 Posts: 365

I was at the Wayland IRC and they said that Wayland is ready to use.
I've yet to hear that any distro mention that they are testing it or implementing it.

So I was wondering if maybe someone on the puppy forums could give it a try and see how things go.

Lobster · Posted: Tue 17 Jul 2012, 22:41 Post subject:

What is it?
What is it for?
Why should Puppy use it?
Where is the code?

Some answers may be here.
All uber-geek to me. Smile

http://wayland.freedesktop.org/faq.html

James C · Joined: 26 Mar 2009 Posts: 6735 Location: Kentucky

Gnuxo · Joined: 09 Feb 2012 Posts: 365

James, I know your being sarcastic but have you seen Wayland?
It's eye candy.

I call it another victory for the open source community.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nWX-obvn2d0

Karl Godt · Joined: 20 Jun 2010 Posts: 4208 Location: Kiel,Germany

Wayland seems to need recent kernels, as i read 2.6.29+ and dependent on your HW Graphic Chip setup also kernels 2.6.37+ for Sandy Bridge OR NV40 and 2.6.38+ for NV50 .

Having tried to compile nouveau_drv.so for xorg, terms like nv40 are not new to me, but i still have to know what exactly means nv40 for example .

Another thing is

Eldon · Joined: 09 Sep 2010 Posts: 110

Atle · Joined: 19 Nov 2008 Posts: 604 Location: Oslo, Norway

Seems to be available at least...

http://wayland.freedesktop.org/

Q5sys · Joined: 11 Dec 2008 Posts: 1126

I tested it once... wasnt overly impressed. It still has a LONG way to go. I dont think we'll see it on puppy for quite some time.

Atle · Joined: 19 Nov 2008 Posts: 604 Location: Oslo, Norway

I have no clue my self. Just knows its moving forward as a project.

Why not for Puppy? And how long ago was the test and in what distro?

Atle · Joined: 19 Nov 2008 Posts: 604 Location: Oslo, Norway

There is a new release from the 27 of January 2013. Called MAUI OS.

I have downloaded it. Test when time is present.

http://www.maui-project.org/en/

akash_rawal · Posted: Sun 21 Apr 2013, 15:10 Post subject:

Wayland is an alternative to entire X thing. It manages your display as X does, but its way of doing it is completely different.

In X, programs tells X server to draw a rectangle, draw a circle, fill a region, write some textual data, etc. on their windows and X server does all the drawings for the program. This is called indirect rendering.

In wayland the server distributes portions of computer memory to the programs and programs do the drawings on the assigned memory. The provided memory is shared between programs and wayland server which can then use these to assemble your desktop. This is called direct rendering.

I have downloaded and tested wayland. Weston doesn't work in precise puppy (It simply hangs indefinitely) but works in slacko 5.5.

I also tried gtk3 but it has severe problems in wayland. GTK3 windows have no frames and don't always respond to clicks.

My estimate is that wayland will be faster, but will require more memory than X.

anikin · Joined: 10 May 2012 Posts: 1020

Hi akash_rawal,

You should have tested Wayland in upup Raring. In my humble view, of all the puppies it's the most wayland-ready. I was doing a search for something in my upup Raring the other day and came across the following:

/usr/lib/libwayland-client.so.0
/usr/lib/libwayland-client.so.0.1.0
/usr/lib/libwayland-cursor.so.0
/usr/lib/libwayland-cursor.so.0.0.0
/usr/lib/libwayland-server.so.0
/usr/lib/libwayland-server.so.0.0.0

Wayland cometh to Puppy - unannounced and uninvited? In my layman's view it's a technology of the future, not yet implemented in Ubuntu. With that in mind, I did what a good Luddite would do - purged the intruder out of the system. Restart x, no ill effects. Quite the opposite - as Puppy became lighter in weight by 128K. Something to consider before remastering Smile

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wayland_%28display_server_protocol%29
http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTI3MDY
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2124551

Terry H · Posted: Mon 22 Apr 2013, 11:19 Post subject:

scsijon · Posted: Mon 22 Apr 2013, 22:46 Post subject:

wayland is now up to version 1.1.0;

I may play with it in a version of myz (minimal racy) but under another code, as from reading since the early days of it's announcements it is a different way of doing things by offloading operations from the users display, so that the display is just for that function, especially considering if you are operating within a cloud. However I did try to build it last year and could not get it to function with any stability.