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James C


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PostPosted: Sun 21 Apr 2013, 02:34    Post subject: Re: mage2-00.12.07 replies  

scsijon wrote:
sorry all, been a bit busy with other things.

@#James C > Try picking vesa in the xorgwizard and see if that comes up ok. If it does, reboot without saving and try again but manually picking the driver and TEST it before accepting, maybe you will need to set the frequency down so take your time. If that doesn't work you may need to choose the nv driver in the non-free ppm group, download it and xorgwizard again as there are a few boards that will only work with that driver for some reason, it's a mageia thing and I can't change it.


Actually boot never reaches Xorgwizard or any of the setup wizards.......... after all the boot text goes by instead of any of the setup wizards it goes to the "monitor out of range" message. Tried booting pfix=nox to force xorgwizard .....no change.

The md5 was correct and the same files copied from the same flash drive are working fine on this Intel box.

FWIW, that Nvidia card uses nouveau in Slacko,Precise and Raring but since I never get to xorgwizard that point is moot.
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PostPosted: Sun 21 Apr 2013, 03:00    Post subject:  

Got it halfway working on the Nvidia box. Manually made a savefile and copied the xorg.conf from a working Raring install. Did boot to a desktop (1280x1024) using the Vesa driver instead of 1440x900 with Nouveau as specified in the xorg.conf file......but at least it's working. Xorgwizard still won't even appear. I'm wondering if this xorg is too new for this old card.

# report-video
Mage2, version 0.12.07 on Sun 21 Apr 2013

Chip description:

oem: NVidia
product: NV18 () Board Chip Rev A2

X Server: Xorg
Driver used: # vesa

X.Org version: 1.11.4
dimensions: 1280x1024 pixels (412x260 millimeters)
depth of root window: 24 planes

...the above also recorded in /tmp/root/ as report-video,
and archived with xorg.conf and Xorg.0.log as report-video-full.gz
#

EDIT:
Answered my own question ........THINSlacko has a newer xorg and uses nouveau with no problems.

Code:
-Display-
Resolution      : 1440x900 pixels
Vendor      : The X.Org Foundation
Version      : 1.12.3
-Monitors-
Monitor 0      : 1440x900 pixels

-OpenGL-
Vendor      : Nouveau
Renderer      : Mesa DRI nv18 x86/MMX+/3DNow!+/SSE
Version      : 1.2 Mesa 8.0.4
Direct Rendering      : Yes
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PostPosted: Sun 21 Apr 2013, 06:53    Post subject:  

thank you james c.

A quick response is that I have no idea what's wrong as the mage nouveau driver should work happily with any nivida card, at least in a basic mode.

I shall have a think!!!!

?Can you tell me the make/model specs on the monitor that you are having problems with please.

The only thing at the back of my mind at present, is maybe a frequency problem. I did have that earlier with a few, and that did give an out of range error, but it was fixed by a change in the source. I may have a one-off pet for you to try when I can find the notes on what I did that would reverse that in case that is what the problem is.

In the meantime could you start it up clean boot please, adding video=640x480 to end of the boot line, as I have set it in the kernel to run 800x600 by default so more is visable if there is a problem. This should not be effecting things, as it is only being used by the pre-x stage, but...

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PostPosted: Mon 22 Apr 2013, 13:57    Post subject: Mageia 2-Based Puppies - LAST BETA RELEASE  

I did a manual frugal install to an HP desktop pc which has an Nvidia
GeForce 430 GT graphics card.
On first bootup it went through the 2 setups and was using the nouveau
driver, I downloaded and installed the proprietary Nvidia driver.
I installed all the pets that I made a few days ago and everything is
working well.
EDIT:I've been able to download applications using ppm as long as I stick
to the older groups such as mageia-2-core but even after updating ppm
I can't get applications from mageia-2-coreupdates.
Otherwise this beta is working great.
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PostPosted: Tue 23 Apr 2013, 21:59    Post subject:  

@Billtoo, there is a problem at ibiblio affecting a lot of the mirrors at the ibiblio end.

In this case, the mageia2 "index" has been updated (naturally) but some of the packages have yet to be, as the rsync update is continually timing out so considerably slowing the update and some just abort until the rsync restarts.

They know about it!

Sorry, but we all just have to be patient until ibiblio 'can get their act together again' and work out how to fix the problem, as it's even affecting uploads to them from the source distributions including puppy.

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PostPosted: Wed 24 Apr 2013, 04:52    Post subject: Mage2 experiences  

Hi scsijon

Tried Mage2....

First the good news -

- I was able to load the Broadcom wl multi-kernel pet successfully and connect by wifi (I noted that there are a few delta files in /opt/broadcom-wl that don't need to be there but this is just being tidy)

- I was able to load and use LXDE (although I did need to make a link to libffi.so.6 in /usr/lib before pcmanfm would work)

The REALLY BAD NEWS -

On initial boot I just got a completely black screen - this is unheard of for this very bog-standard Intel graphics laptop - by hitting the Return key multiple times (6 I think) eventually a very large scale screen appeared and then I was able to run xorgwizard to get to the correct 1280*800 screen - however even after doing this, the black screen continued to appear on subsequent reboots after the 3 lines of initial boot info but a single press of the Return key got me to a working desktop.

Screenie attached taken when working under LXDE.

If there is any diagnostic info I can send you to help investigate the unprecedented black screen behaviour just let me know.

Cheers
peebee

p.s. also missed having no sfs-load-on-the-fly
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PostPosted: Wed 24 Apr 2013, 16:37    Post subject:  

Hi scsijon,

A nice build, "feels at home" on my eeepc1000 (atom n270/945GME). Smooth, responsive and runs very cool. I learned about Mageia from this thread, by the way. Below is font rendering, "augmented" a little bit.
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PostPosted: Thu 25 Apr 2013, 00:18    Post subject:  

@peebee, a make and model may help me. I think that this is the first intel video that has caused those problems. However you could try booting with video=640x480 on the boot line and let me know if it's the problem as i'm thinking of rebuilding the kernel without the 800x600.

@anikin, thanks, that's another I can tick off as ok.

@All, after a release build, I'm thinking of adding the va-api and see how the extra video accelleration works with mage2, we use most of the dependancies anyway.

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PostPosted: Thu 25 Apr 2013, 01:00    Post subject:  

scsijon wrote:
thank you james c.

A quick response is that I have no idea what's wrong as the mage nouveau driver should work happily with any nivida card, at least in a basic mode.

I shall have a think!!!!

?Can you tell me the make/model specs on the monitor that you are having problems with please.

The only thing at the back of my mind at present, is maybe a frequency problem. I did have that earlier with a few, and that did give an out of range error, but it was fixed by a change in the source. I may have a one-off pet for you to try when I can find the notes on what I did that would reverse that in case that is what the problem is.

In the meantime could you start it up clean boot please, adding video=640x480 to end of the boot line, as I have set it in the kernel to run 800x600 by default so more is visable if there is a problem. This should not be effecting things, as it is only being used by the pre-x stage, but...


Deleted savefile and added "video=640x480 to the kernel line. Same result.... booted to the point when the various setup wizards should appear but instead get a " monitor out of range" message. Nothing from ctrl/alt/bksp or ctrl/alt/del ..... however repeatedly hitting "enter" results in a reboot.

Fairly confident it's nothing to do with the monitor since I'm running about 20 Puppy installs plus Mepis,Antix,Slax, Tiny Core ,etc on here with no problems.But since you asked......

Code:
 Monitor name: Hanns.G HW191

EDID for output VGA-1
[    19.588] (II) NOUVEAU(0): Manufacturer: HSD  Model: 8991  Serial#: 3547
[    19.588] (II) NOUVEAU(0): Year: 2010  Week: 34
[    19.588] (II) NOUVEAU(0): EDID Version: 1.3
[    19.588] (II) NOUVEAU(0): Analog Display Input,  Input Voltage Level: 0.700/0.300 V
[    19.588] (II) NOUVEAU(0): Sync:  Separate  SyncOnGreen
[    19.588] (II) NOUVEAU(0): Max Image Size [cm]: horiz.: 41  vert.: 26
[    19.589] (II) NOUVEAU(0): Gamma: 2.20
[    19.589] (II) NOUVEAU(0): DPMS capabilities: StandBy Suspend Off; RGB/Color Display
[    19.589] (II) NOUVEAU(0): First detailed timing is preferred mode


Just for grins here is report-video from Upup Precise...running it now.
Code:

# report-video
VIDEO REPORT: Upup Precise, version 3.8.3

Chip description:
VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation NV18 [GeForce4 MX 440 AGP 8x] (rev c1)

Requested by /etc/X11/xorg.conf:
  Resolution (widthxheight, in pixels): 1440x900
  Depth (bits, or planes):              24
  Modules requested to be loaded:       dbe

Probing Xorg startup log file (/var/log/Xorg.0.log):
  Driver loaded (and currently in use): nouveau
  Loaded modules: dbe dri dri2 exa extmod fb glx kbd mouse record shadowfb

Actual rendering on monitor:
  Resolution:  1440x900 pixels (380x238 millimeters)
  Depth:       24 planes

...the above also recorded in /tmp/report-video
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PostPosted: Thu 25 Apr 2013, 04:51    Post subject:  

scsijon wrote:
@peebee, a make and model may help me. I think that this is the first intel video that has caused those problems. However you could try booting with video=640x480 on the boot line and let me know if it's the problem as i'm thinking of rebuilding the kernel without the 800x600.


Hi scsijon

My standard booting menu.lst already contains video=640x480....so was already booting that way

Video report (generated on Slacko5.5):
Quote:
video-info-glx 1.5.1 Thu 25 Apr 2013 on Slacko Puppy 5.5 Linux 3.2.33-4g i686
2.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile GME965/GLE960 Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 0c)
oem: Intel(r)GM965/PM965/GL960 Graphics Chip Accelerated VGA BIOS
product: Intel(r)GM965/PM965/GL960 Graphics Controller Hardware Version 0.0

X Server: Xorg Driver: intel
X.Org version: 1.12.3
dimensions: 1280x800 pixels (338x211 millimeters)
depth of root window: 24 planes

direct rendering: Yes
server glx vendor string: SGI
server glx version string: 1.4
OpenGL vendor string: Tungsten Graphics, Inc
OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI Intel(R) 965GME/GLE x86/MMX/SSE2
OpenGL version string: 2.1 Mesa 8.0.4

Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU 550 @ 2.00GHz
Core 0: @1994 MHz
I tried removing video=640x480 to see if this made any difference - it didn't - but it showed another oddity in that pfix=ram on the boot line seemed to be ignored - a savefile was used even though I was booting pfix=ram - I had to rename the savefile to stop it being used.

Regards
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PostPosted: Thu 02 May 2013, 16:59    Post subject:  

new backgrounds and splash.
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PostPosted: Sat 04 May 2013, 07:53    Post subject:  

sorry folks, just a little busy with a network problem elsewhere, back at it asap.

@Futwerk I do like to latest backgrounds, can you do the design of the last two also with bright green, purple and dark blue backgrounds with maybe the flash at the bottom with a few silver sparkles? I'll pick a few of those you've done so far and add in the basic set and put the rest in a pet so they can be grabbed for anyone to use, if you don't mind.

regards to all
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PostPosted: Thu 09 May 2013, 21:06    Post subject:  

Hi, scsijon, here are some variations of last 2 backgrounds, hope you like them.
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PostPosted: Fri 17 May 2013, 03:03    Post subject: rc1  

I have finally built a working rc1 without apparent problems on a Woof of 16 May.

I will be testing this next week with my closed group. If nothing serious is found it should appear about the 25th for some wide user testing.

Gotta say, futwerk's backgrounds are magic (excuse the pun)!

I'm using it now and barry's fixes for xorg are great.
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PostPosted: Sun 02 Jun 2013, 15:34    Post subject:  

new background.
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