No WLAN detected

[jojobear9]

AN AVM WLAN-Stick plugged in the Desktop was not recognized by Linux during installation. Internet Connection Wizzard was used, but no WLAN found. Is anyone able to tell me a method to solve this problem? I am a newcomer with Linux and thanking for a usefull answer.

[mill0001]

Hi jojo: We need to know what chip your usb stick uses. Go to menu-system-system status and config-
hardinfo hardware information. Click on that and go to usb devices and click on it, then scroll on right side to network controller. Post back what it says. You need this in order to find the right driver for your stick.

[jojobear9]

Thks mill0001. To solve that problem we used ndiswrapper and it worked. WLAN connection is satisfactory now. Again thanks for your prompt answer.

[circularL7]

I recently had a similar problem with a card. While the wizard ran, I removed and re-inserted the card, then the system recognized it.

[tempestuous]

Go to menu-system-system status and config-
hardinfo hardware information.

Well done mill0001, that's the absolutely correct first step to diagnose such problems.
It's a shame the OP did not provide this feedback ...
because then we would have been in a position to troubleshoot the native Linux driver which should have worked - in this case the driver was likely to be carl9170 (which Slacko 5.5 already contains) and it would have been good to get a reported case of this driver fully working.

And so the informational value of this forum remains low.

[mill0001]

Tempestuous: Thanks for the props. I must say I have gotten bunches of really helpful info from your posts over the years, so thank you for your devotion to and helpfulness with Puppy.

[jojobear9]

Sorry for not giving a feedback to this recommendation, but I pretend to be a real newcomer, not familiar with any feedbacks given in a forum. Being happy that the win- driver worked properly I definitely forgot to reply that the product number is 0x151, Vendor is 0xbda. Its a Fritz!WLAN stick from AVM.
The next attempt to get WLAN with Linux driver carl9170 installed via bootmanager configure bootup was unsuccessful. The problem is that in the net work wizzard we can only see eth0 sign and no WLAN at all. Again sorry for not replying properly and I am seriously willing to accept and attempt any new proposal or driver.

[rjbrewer]

The AVM is likely to have an Atheros chip.
In the network wizard you can find "ar9170 usb" in the
"load module" section.
Might be worth a try.

http://linux-wless.passys.nl/query_part ... ndname=AVM

[jojobear9]

Thanks so much for this info, but unable to find neither ar9170 nor ar9710 in Network Manager and Boot Manager Configure. Searching in HardInfo for the chip name resulted that producer is Realtek instead of Atheros.

[rjbrewer]

Thanks so much for this info, but unable to find neither ar9170 nor ar9710 in Network Manager and Boot Manager Configure. Searching in HardInfo for the chip name resulted that producer is Realtek instead of Atheros.

Realtek is more often cable modem.
Type lsusb in console and find id for device.
Looked in slacko5.5 and ar9170 or ar9710 does not exist there.

[Ibidem]

From what I see, that "should" be a Realtek device (0x0bda=Realtek) ...and the product ID is for a multi-card reader, which isn't what we want.
How I'd find it:

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#remove it
#then execute in terminal:
dmesg -c #clear kernel messages
lsusb >usb-preinsert.txt #save list of usb devices other than it
#now insert, wait a couple seconds
#and run to save the messages and harware info:
dmesg >dmesg-post.txt
lsusb >usb-postinsert.txt
diff -u usb-preinsert.txt usb-postinsert.txt |grep ^+ #get only new devices

Also, I'm seeing claims of that being the TI TNETW1450 or the AR9170, the latter with module ar9170usb as driver. The former needs acx-mac80211.

[tempestuous]

In the network wizard you can find "ar9170 usb" in the
"load module" section.

The ar9170usb driver is deprecated in modern kernels in favour of the carl9170 driver.

[tempestuous]

the product number is 0x151, Vendor is 0xbda.

Well 0bda is Realtek, and Realtek does make a range of wifi devices ...
but Google tells me that device ID 0151 is a multicard reader!

Are you sure you read the system status output correctly?
The vendor is more likely to be 057c ...

[jojobear9]

Well, again thanks for the info. Presently it was not possible to find out, who the producer plus vendor of the chip are. I only have the info about the stick as it is indicated in the system status and there is no change to that, I wrote the other day. Anyway I have asked AVM via mail to state correct data, but did not receive an answer yet. So I'm waiting for that, and then come back with hopefully the correct data.

[rjbrewer]

Well, again thanks for the info. Presently it was not possible to find out, who the producer plus vendor of the chip are. I only have the info about the stick as it is indicated in the system status and there is no change to that, I wrote the other day. Anyway I have asked AVM via mail to state correct data, but did not receive an answer yet. So I'm waiting for that, and then come back with hopefully the correct data.

Still need the info from typing "lsusb" in console.

Any description or version numbers on the plastic case?

[jojobear9]

Not yet receiving an answer from AVM, but very interesting is the fact that I only looked for the driver in Hardinfo, and it did not appear there. Now as advised, which I call a good idea, I looked in the lsusb and promptly found the right one.

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Bus 002 Device 004: ID 057c:6201 AVM GmbH WLAN USB v1.1

I hope that this info helps to find the correct driver.

[tempestuous]

Thanks jojobear9 for your help.
It should be noted for anyone following this thread that jojobear9 already has a working solution under Slacko 5.5 using ndiswrapper.
This additional diagnosis is a development issue - we want to improve Puppy so that native Linux drivers are pre-installed and working, and having to resort to something like ndiswrapper will (and should) be unnecessary.

Newer models of FRITZ!WLAN dongles have USB device ID's of either 8401, 8402, or 8403, and these contain the Atheros AR9170 wifi chipset, supported in recent kernels by the carl9170 driver (kernel module) ...

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Bus 002 Device 004: ID 057c:6201 AVM GmbH WLAN USB v1.1

OK, that's obviously not one of the new dongles, it's the older model which contains the Texas Instruments TNETW1450 wifi chipset.
Slacko 5.5 does not contain a native Linux driver for this device.
There's a third-party driver called "acx-mac80211" available here -
http://acx100.git.sourceforge.net/git/g ... ;a=summary
but no one has (to date) compiled this for Slacko. So ndiswrapper is the only solution at this point ...

... however if jojobear9, or anyone else with the same device, finds themselves using Puppy Lucid 5.2.x then there is a compatible acx-mac80211 driver available as a dotpet here -
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 985#443985
I just checked this driver now, and it definitely supports USB ID 057c:6201

[tempestuous]

Oh damn. I just tested that link to the acx-mac80211 driver, and it's broken!
It appears that the forum has been upgraded to not accept (or retain) attachments larger than 256MB.
What a mess.

[jojobear9]

Thanks for trying that hard!!! I'm going to use the ndiswrapper until someone has an useful idea that helps to get rid of that issue.