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HP laptop heats up when running Puppy 5.2.8 [SOLVED]
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rmcellig

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PostPosted: Tue 05 Mar 2013, 10:19    Post subject:  HP laptop heats up when running Puppy 5.2.8 [SOLVED]  

Every time I run Puppy Linux on my HP laptop dv 2000 Pavillion from the CD or from a Frugal install, my laptop heats up and shuts off. I have Lubuntu 12.04 installed on this laptop and it runs fine. The computer never gets hot like it does when running Puppy.

Any idea what is going on and how I can solve this problem?

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8-bit


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PostPosted: Tue 05 Mar 2013, 11:15    Post subject:  

Have you ran/installed the CPU Frequency Scaling Tool from System- System Status and Configure in the menu?
I always set that up as one of the first things I do and it works fine in keeping my laptop cool.
Adversely if I boot to Windows 7 on the laptop or Windows Vista on my desktop, the cooling fan, seems to run a lot and with the laptop, I can feel the heat radiating out of it.
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rmcellig

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PostPosted: Tue 05 Mar 2013, 12:46    Post subject:  

I never used the CPU scaling tool before. I will check it out, and see what happens. Thanks!!
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Ted Dog


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PostPosted: Tue 05 Mar 2013, 16:28    Post subject: laptop heating issues  

I've noticed its seems to be getting worse (laptops running hot, not sleeping with lid down etc) also sleep and halt no longer work. Laptop support used to be a strong point a year or two ago for puppy. With running from RAM I could go an entire weekend on my netbook just closing the lid caused puppylinux go into deep sleep lasting for days and days, open the lid and since already running in RAM it would be instantly there.
If you are running puppy fully from RAM try HDparm to turn off HD.
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ally


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PostPosted: Tue 05 Mar 2013, 16:39    Post subject:  

hey rm

I had the same trouble on my sons acer

it has switchable graphics which only worked in windows, a quicks google shows intel/nvidia graphics so may be a similar issue?

check the bios and see if there is anything weird graphics wise, as well as cpu scaling look at loading the nvidia graphics driver which may help too

Smile
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Hogweed

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PostPosted: Tue 05 Mar 2013, 17:37    Post subject:  

As a general point, a laptop should not really shutdown due to overheating even if it is running flat out. I'd think of checking the fan and air pathways even if you can get it to run more efficiently. Also, even without dynamic downclocking, the cpu should be in a relatively low power mode when in the idle loop. Does your system overheat to the point of shutting down even when idle or only under load?

If you smoke or have cats or dogs (hairs get everywhere) then the fan is especially likely to be clogged.
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rmcellig

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PostPosted: Tue 05 Mar 2013, 17:52    Post subject:  

I don't smoke. I am able to run Lubuntu with no problems. The computer is barely warm. It seems to be when I run puppy linux. I have a couple of cats but hair isn't an issue when it comes to the computers. When I run the CPU tool mentioned previously, do I just select one of the items from the list and click on apply? Is anything else supposed to happen?

I will try the Nvidia option and see what happens.
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8-bit


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PostPosted: Wed 06 Mar 2013, 13:24    Post subject:  

When selecting the driver to use, I have an AMD processor and selected the power now k8 driver.
You select the driver that corresponds to your processor type.
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rmcellig

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PostPosted: Wed 06 Mar 2013, 13:28    Post subject:  

Thanks 8-bit! I'll see how it goes. Right now I am doing some audio work running Lubuntu 12.04. After I finish, I will try Puppy again. Really hope it all works because for me Puppy is special. I might even try out the new Puppy Wary 5.5 and see how that pup does in relation to overheating.
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Semme

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PostPosted: Wed 06 Mar 2013, 19:11    Post subject:  

Pantz.org offers CPU descriptions. Should make choosing the right module a breeze..
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rmcellig

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PostPosted: Wed 06 Mar 2013, 19:22    Post subject:  

Thanks Semme! That's timely.
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mini-jaguar

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PostPosted: Fri 08 Mar 2013, 12:32    Post subject:  

I've recommended this before, but install pemasu's laptop-acpi-battery-tools...pet

It'll put another battery meter on the taskbar, but one which works better and you get 3 modes of operation. And no more overheating.

http://www.smokey01.com/pemasu/Pets/
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Adagio

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PostPosted: Fri 08 Mar 2013, 19:29    Post subject:  

Indeed it does work very well.
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rmcellig

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PostPosted: Fri 19 Apr 2013, 12:11    Post subject:  

Looks like I finally solved my overheating problem by selecting one of the options in the CPU scaling tool. So far so good. Laptop is running 24hr/day with no shutdowns (fingers crossed) Smile.

Thanks again for all of the help!!!
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jrw46

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PostPosted: Thu 23 May 2013, 02:15    Post subject: HP Laptop Heating up with Puppy 528
Subject description: my laptop runs cooler with win7
 

HI Guys, You'll won't have trouble finding my posts, my questions are usually kind of simple.

I stopped by here hoping to find a reason why my laptop gets so hot running puppy... I read though the posts in this section but I got to tell you, you guys are way over my head... The only thing I know about fans is that they blow air. More when its hot and a little less as things cool off. I know I need to read more on what the scaling tool is all about and how does it come into play with the heat... I can hear the fan running seems full on steady, however when I am using winds7 the fan changes speeds. In puppy it seems to be on all the time, the bottom of the laptop keeps getting hotter and hotter.. Any Ideas?

I want you all to know that I'm a first time user of puppy. I have it installed along side of the windows in both of my computers. one is HP windows 7 the other older one is Compac winXP...

Thanks in advance for any insite.

Jim
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