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Colonel Panic


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PostPosted: Sat 23 Mar 2013, 11:41    Post subject:  
nitehawk wrote:
Colonel Panic wrote:

I can't remember how much RAM you have available on your machines, so I'll just go from my own experience.


..my main computer (Dell Optiplex GX270...(P4) has 1G ram
Dell PIII ...512M
HP Vectra PIII ..512M

I just threw VectorLinux 7 back on the Dell PIII,...but it sure is acting "sluggish" . Seems to take a second or two to open any apps. Racy Puppy just flies on that thing. Actually,...for some reason, Racy (and Quirky 1.4) work a LOT better on my PIIIs than Wary does (?)
And just plain vanilla Slackware 14 runs a lot better on the PIIIs than Vector does as well. Disappointed in Vector.

My brother (a retired electronics tech) has mentioned that he has a nice IBM P4 (3Ghz,...maybe about 2 or 3 G ram) that he wants to give to me,..since he has much bigger and powerful machines (and no longer needs it).

I am sure that 'puter could run Mint Debian. (Would be nice).
Actually,...my dear brother just gave me a box of older hard drives he no longer needs, too (he just got several "Trillabites" (sp?) hard drives. So I am now blessed with about (3) 165G HDs,...(1) 125G,...and (5) 40G HDs. ooooooh,...fun, fun!


Excellent! That IBM machine would run Mint Debian with no problem and those extra hard drives would be useful too.

I'm posting from Vector 7 at the moment as it happens. It probably is slow compared to Puppy Racy et al., but I think it's pretty fast compared to some other distros and certainly compared to Windows (even XP, never mind 7).

I don't think Vector is as big an advance on Slackware as it used to be though. When I first used it in 2006, Slackware was hard to set up whereas it's a lot easier now. so Vector's "competitive advantage" is a lot less now IMO. You do get quite a nice XFCE interface with Vector though and the Quick Picks package manager is quite good too.
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PostPosted: Sat 23 Mar 2013, 14:01    Post subject:  
http://distrowatch.com/7773

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"The team is proud to announce the release of LMDE 201303. Highlights: Update Pack 6; MATE 1.4 and Cinnamon 1.6; installer improvements (graphical time zone and keyboard selection, support for installation on multiple hard disk drives, slideshow, webcam and face picture support); device driver manager; Plymouth splash screen. LMDE in brief: Linux Mint Debian Edition (LMDE) is a semi-rolling distribution based on Debian 'Testing'. It's available in both 32-bit and 64-bit variants as a live DVD with MATE or Cinnamon. The purpose of LMDE is to look identical to the main edition and to provide the same functionality while using Debian as a base."


Mate and Cinnamon are big are they not?
Why do people like them? What is better?

the iso is about 1.2GB so one need a 2 GB USB
if one want to test it using IsoBooter.
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PostPosted: Sat 23 Mar 2013, 14:11    Post subject:  
When Linus Torvalds studied computing at his University
in Finland they used Minix as a the test OS to learn from

Him got interested in how one set things up and
Linux Kernel got created.

Minix is still used as a tool for to teach students.

Would be cool if one could get it booting on USB
has any of you tested and can share how to set it up?

http://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issue=20130318#feature
http://distrowatch.com/minix

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The latest release of MINIX, version 3.2.1, comes with a number of important improvements. The MINIX operating system now supports dynamically linked libraries, system performance has been improved, new hardware drivers have been added to the project and the userland utilities have been updated. Perhaps the most promising feature available to MINIX users is a ports system which assists administrators in compiling and installing third-party software which might otherwise only be available to other operating systems such as NetBSD.

The MINIX operating system can be downloaded as a 256MB compressed image. Once this file has been downloaded it can be expanded to its full 680MB size, still small enough to fit on a CD. The big hurdle to using MINIX is hardware support. Despite the addition of new drivers being accepted into the project, getting the operating system running can be tricky. In addition, MINIX does not yet have 64-bit support for Intel machines nor does it feature ARM support, though both are being actively developed. I tried MINIX on physical hardware and in VirtualBox without any luck. I was able to get the small operating system running inside a QEMU virtual machine and there I found MINIX ran quite well.

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PostPosted: Sat 23 Mar 2013, 19:11    Post subject:  
Colonel Panic wrote:


I'm posting from Vector 7 at the moment as it happens. It probably is slow compared to Puppy Racy et al., but I think it's pretty fast compared to some other distros and certainly compared to Windows (even XP, never mind 7).

I don't think Vector is as big an advance on Slackware as it used to be though. When I first used it in 2006, Slackware was hard to set up whereas it's a lot easier now. so Vector's "competitive advantage" is a lot less now IMO. You do get quite a nice XFCE interface with Vector though and the Quick Picks package manager is quite good too.


Actually,....I think the problem was not with VectorLinux 7,...but with my old Dell PIII. I just put Vector back on my main P4,...and it's doing just fine!
Vector is my "Go-To" distro. When I get sick and tired of trying other distros...(or they just don't work like I want them to,)...I always seem to just go right back to Vector. I was running Slackware,...but Vector is so much easier to set up and get running. I like Debian for all the apps and software,....but I'm spoiled to Vector and Puppies.

...and I'm not holding my breath about getting that nicer IBM computer,...as my brother forgets about what he promiced at times Laughing
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PostPosted: Sun 24 Mar 2013, 08:05    Post subject: Other Distros  
I installed the 64bit Linux Mint 201303 "Debian" on my laptop.
It's looking nice, I can still boot Fatdog64 from an SDHC card as well
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PostPosted: Mon 25 Mar 2013, 16:26    Post subject:  
I tested LMDE using rcrsn51 isobooter
on a 2GB usb and that worked well.
One can edit files and save them back to the
HD on the computer and it boots fast. Country keyboard
I go into terminal and write setxkbmap se so if you are
from other country just replace se with no, dk, de, fr, nl, es, whatever needed.

I have thought of that it should be an easy way to make a full
install to a usb but then that has to be a bigger one than 2gb?

wonder how much wear and tear it would produce on that usb flash?
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PostPosted: Tue 26 Mar 2013, 02:19    Post subject:  
nooby wrote:

I have thought of that it should be an easy way to make a full
install to a usb but then that has to be a bigger one than 2gb?

wonder how much wear and tear it would produce on that usb flash?


I booted the live dvd and used the mint installer to install it to a
fast 16gb 60MB/s SDHC card.
I told the installer to install grub to the SDHC card, I can boot from
the hard drive by pressing f12 during startup and choosing the boot
device.
Grub4dos is the bootloader on the hard drive and has all my puppy
installs listed there.
Working good so far Smile
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Adagio

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PostPosted: Wed 27 Mar 2013, 22:07    Post subject: OperaOS  
This seems to have slipped under the radar.

http://sourceforge.net/projects/operaos/

2011 project based on Slitaz-3. Only 65MB.
All you get is a browser/email.

Just tried it.
Great, if you are a fan of Slitaz, as I am.
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PostPosted: Thu 28 Mar 2013, 05:08    Post subject:  
So they use Opera instead of Midori/FireFox?

Did you do full install on a separate partition on the HD
or on a usb formatted to Fat32 or

did you do frugal install on NTFS? What code to get it to boot?
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PostPosted: Thu 28 Mar 2013, 22:32    Post subject:  
I refer you to your post which has the menu.lst entry for Slitaz.

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=73523&sid=00958a87cbd302d4e8e660429c86d4a4

For me, Slitaz is for remastering.
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PostPosted: Fri 29 Mar 2013, 04:48    Post subject:  
Yes that one was for Slitaz 3.0 so that may work
since then he has changed to Slitaz 4.0 and made
changes of kernel? In forum some complain that
their computers are not comapatible with the new kernel.

I found the boot code for a firefox core version of S4

title SliTaz 4.0 frugal root root lacks get-flash-plugin
rootnoverify (hd0,0)
kernel /sz4boot/bzIimage slitaz lang=en kmap=fi-latin1 rw root=/dev/null vga=normal autologin
initrd /sz4boot/rootfs.gz

if you know how to make a home=sda1 then you can add that one
to the kernel line but me having ntfs seems to be out of luck?

What I don't like about Slitaz 4.0 are that it does not have AdobeFlash
and it does not play MP4 out of the box and if one can not save
changes to home=sda1 then it is too much work to make use of it.
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PostPosted: Mon 01 Apr 2013, 18:48    Post subject:  
Hope everyone's had or having a good Easter Smile.

With still no sign of WattOS I've installed Sparky 2.1 and, because I'm not over keen on its standard desktop, changed the window manager from Openbox to Fluxbox (but kept Conky), and it's working well. It's a good and lightweight distro although somewhat purist (Iceweasel rather than Firefox, for example).
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PostPosted: Fri 05 Apr 2013, 20:32    Post subject:  
I went from XP to 7 on the Windows box. Kinda wish I hadn't but I don't want to spend half the day going back. Will be sticking with Precise for the foreseeable future, I just can't seem to break it or slow it down.
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PostPosted: Sat 06 Apr 2013, 23:53    Post subject: Linux Lite  
http://www.linuxliteos.com/

I really like this, for a Ubuntu-based distro.
Not all that light, by Puppy standards, but does have some good stuff in it.
Root logins, remasterable, intelligent menuing, quite fast.

It's a goer.
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