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EarWorms, Repetitive loops of memories autostarts!

#1 Post by nooby »

Now unfortunately the quality is not HiFi or even audible :)
It kind of "play" silently but one vaguely remember
what it would sound like if one would hear it again.

The annoying thing about it is that it comes without being asked for.
It forces itself on me and "play" without being stoppable or controlled.

One can change the melody by listening to something other
that one want to hear but that does not always help. The other
melody can come back even if one try to replace it with a better one.

Psychologically it is interesting to try to wild guess what kind of purpose
it could have had in the evolution of music that the mind replay melodies
like that. A kind of forced learning. Group pressure from an inner teacher?

Does everybody have it and those that can control it does not complain?
Or can none of us control and only some share that they are annoyed?

What about those that never have had the experience in what way
are they different? So many questions and no answers :)

One of those that I want answer to is this one:
Are there persons that really hear the melody and
not only "hear" what it would sound like if they would hear it?

Not easy to explain the difference. To me they are really totally silent
but one "hear" them play in a very annoying way in that they are
a kind of inner motivators that wants me to hum or whistle or
sing or play that melody or rhythm but it can not "sound" so it is
absolutely silent but it "play" nevertheless so I trust it is muscle signals
that practice how to sing it if I would give in to the inner urge?

Do you really hear it or only feel it as an inner motivation to play them?
can you change it to another without having to hear that other melody?
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#2 Post by nooby »

I made a phone call to my cousin that is some 15 years elder than me
and she never have these ear worms. She had heard that others had
them but never had them herself.

she thought herself normal and those that hear them not normal :)
So now I know. I am not normal.
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#3 Post by amigo »

It's a common system of depression.

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#4 Post by nooby »

Ooops Depression?
But then I've been depressed all my life.
Not that I re3ally remember when it started
but maybe some 50 years ago or more?

Are you sure it is about depression. A link to a reliable text
would be good. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earworm
An earworm is a piece of music that sticks in one's mind
so that one seems to hear it, even when it is not being played.

Other phrases used to describe this include musical imagery repetition
and involuntary musical imagery. The phenomenon is common in normal
life
and so may be distinguished from brain damage that results in palinacousis.

The word earworm is a calque from the German Ohrwurm.[1]

It is a type of song that typically has a high, upbeat melody
and repetitive lyrics that verge between catchy and annoying.

Earworms are also referred as "stuck song syndrome",
"involuntary musical imagery" (INMIs),[2][3] "brainworms",
or "sticky music".

One reason that this occurs is that melodic music tends to have
a rhythm that repeats. This cyclical nature may cause endless repetition,
unless some way to achieve a climax that breaks the cycle is found
Nothing in that text that is is related to depression
and it does say it is normal.
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#5 Post by starhawk »

I get earworms almost all the time. I got a jukebox in my head :P kind of an ornery (nooby: read as "stubborn") jukebox, though -- half the time at least, it's not playing what I want it to!

I know I'm not normal.

That doesn't mean earworms aren't.

Learned about the term in a college music course four or so years ago.

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#6 Post by nooby »

Stuck tune seems to be a common way to refer to it.
The melodies that comes up for me now are three
Problems Problems by The Everly Brothers
and Claudette RoyOrbison and Everly
and I drove all night with Orbison,
Cindy Lopez and Celine Dione.
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#7 Post by mini-jaguar »

Absolutely normal, but I don't think it's controllable.

Sometimes I hear annoying songs I've heard recently, and I hate that. Sometimes songs I like (not always ones I've heard recently), that's pleasant.

O.k., it might be controllable to certain degree, for example not listening to the radio will most likely not make me have annoying songs in my head.

I also dream songs, songs that don't actually exist, and sometimes I remember them a short while after I wake up.

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#8 Post by nooby »

mini-jaguar wrote:Absolutely normal, but I don't think it's controllable.

Sometimes I hear annoying songs I've heard recently, and I hate that. Sometimes songs I like (not always ones I've heard recently), that's pleasant.

O.k., it might be controllable to certain degree, for example not listening to the radio will most likely not make me have annoying songs in my head.

I also dream songs, songs that don't actually exist, and sometimes I remember them a short while after I wake up.
Thanks you need to place some kind of recording device
so you can sing directly you wake up. :)

such songs can be the next hit record and give you millions.
Has happen before.

Yes it is very annoying when it play the wrong song again
and again without being able to change it to something less
banal or trivial. I usually try to get it over run with something
better by playing that one again and again until the ear worm
just give up on dominating.


I will try to replace Problems Problems with
When will I be loved. or Crying in the rain.
Will be interesting to see if it works out :)

wish me luck :Big Smile:
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#9 Post by lwill »

Try having a three year old!
I get Wheels on the Bus and Old McDonald (or worse!) stuck in my head all the time!!

I have found the two best solutions are to sing the song out load and get it out of you system, or think / sing to myself something short, very familiar and very boring. The best I have found so far is the jingle for WBBM radio:
"News Radio, 7-80, W-B-B-M!"
(Does anyone else near Chicago use this one?)

Has anyone else gotten stuck in an endless loop with The Muppets "Manamana"??

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lwill wrote:Try having a three year old!
I get Wheels on the Bus and Old McDonald (or worse!) stuck in my head all the time!!

I have found the two best solutions are to sing the song out load and get it out of you system, or think / sing to myself something short, very familiar and very boring. The best I have found so far is the jingle for WBBM radio:
"News Radio, 7-80, W-B-B-M!"
(Does anyone else near Chicago use this one?)

Has anyone else gotten stuck in an endless loop with The Muppets "Manamana"??
Arrgh! The muppets. I didn't before, but I do now!

(I think nature hates a vacuum, the brain will find something else to do if there's nothing special going on.)

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#11 Post by nooby »

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I have found the two best solutions are to sing the song out load and get it out of you system, or think / sing to myself something short, very familiar and very boring./quote

I have to test that one. sounds like a good advice.
Maybe the BBC world service Jingle?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/video_and_audio/

Or the Proms sir Edward Elgar "Pomp and Circumstances Marches" whatever. Or why not some other famous one :)
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#12 Post by mini-jaguar »

nooby wrote:
mini-jaguar wrote:Absolutely normal, but I don't think it's controllable.

Sometimes I hear annoying songs I've heard recently, and I hate that. Sometimes songs I like (not always ones I've heard recently), that's pleasant.

O.k., it might be controllable to certain degree, for example not listening to the radio will most likely not make me have annoying songs in my head.

I also dream songs, songs that don't actually exist, and sometimes I remember them a short while after I wake up.
Thanks you need to place some kind of recording device
so you can sing directly you wake up. :)

such songs can be the next hit record and give you millions.
Has happen before.
Not really, they're usually just generic songs by bands I listen to (nothing really experimental or "out there", but not actual songs by other bands either), and sometimes not so much singing, but I guess humming the melody or guitar part and recording would have been cool, I don't remember any of them. They were full arrangements though.

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#13 Post by nooby »

Now all of us are different so maybe one can not generalize
but famous hit makers do tell that some of their most sold records
have been things that their sub consćious produced just like that
maybe not in a dream but suddenly they get aware of a way to
express music from within that their brain spontaneously just
created out of it's own whim. the important thing is to be able
to record it instantly or else it is forever forgotten :)
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#14 Post by mini-jaguar »

But there are a lot of similar sounding things to the songs I heard in my dreams, it might not stand out in any way.

There is also a kind of reality filter from things that you hear in your head and actually laying down tracks, namely that unless you are an incredible composer or super amazing player of whatever instrument, it might not be exactly as it was in your head, but somewhat changed. Also the other instruments can change the song too.

I remember reading somewhere an interview with a famous guitarist, can't remember who, but he said that the mistakes, in other words deviating from the original notes (for example when playing a cover) is what makes the guitarist's style.

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#15 Post by nooby »

I wish I where a musical person I love music
but have no talent for to express myself that way
but I have the impression that timing and nuances
in how one handle amplitude is very important.

But I should say nothing i simply know too little.
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#16 Post by sickgut »

just access your internal shell. type 'top' then work out what process is causing the loop then 'kill' it

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#17 Post by nooby »

Hehe that is a smart. i trust that the Debian folks have
set it to no root access so writing Pussy as password
would fail. Create a User and then change permission
on each earwork loop manually or something.
Thanks for the laughs though.
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#18 Post by sickgut »

nooby wrote:Hehe that is a smart. i trust that the Debian folks have
set it to no root access so writing Pussy as password
would fail. Create a User and then change permission
on each earwork loop manually or something.
Thanks for the laughs though.
being leet as you are nooby, you may very well have a linux infection of the brain. However this may not be a good thing because to be sure to cure it you may need electroshock therapy as a reboot switch doesnt usually grow on the side of the head in these cases.

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#19 Post by nooby »

Haha

To reboot or to not reboot is the question.
I've heard that Kolibri is an Assembler Language OS
that would be neat to boot into by my poor brain.

http://distrowatch.com/kolibri
KolibriOS is a tiny open-source operating system with a monolithic preemptive kernel and video drivers for 32-bit x86 architecture computers. KolibriOS is a fork of MenuetOS, written entirely in FASM (assembly language). However, C, C++, Free Pascal, Forth, among other high-level languages and compilers, can also be used in application development. KolibriOS features a rich set of applications that include a word processor, image viewer, graphical editor, web browser, and over 30 games.
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