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Jack Rex · Joined: 20 Mar 2013 Posts: 7

I am currently running Precise Puppy 5.5 on a live DVD, burnt with growisofs program for Windows from dvd+rw tools for Windows (originally for Linux to create multisession live DVDs from isos). Windows too shows my DVD as multisession but Puppy linux however, on shutdown cannot save the session to the DVD. When I chose the option for doing so, 'Precise Puppy is shutting down' message flashes and it goes to a terminal prompt, asking for further command. However, I could tell that the session had not saved as the burner light had not flashed. I was forced to save to HDD as I had installed ClamAV and Wine 1.4 from pet packages. Could you please tell me why Puppy cannot save the session and is there a way for it to save? And how can I save to CD on the second, third and subsequent shutdowns?

Precise Puppy Version: 5.5
Processor: Intel Pentium 4 3.20 GHz
DVD Burner: HL - DT - LG - GSA - H55N

Thank You

Flash · Posted: Wed 20 Mar 2013, 09:01 Post subject:

Assuming from the specs you list that this is not a laptop, all systems seem to be go for a multisession DVD. I have to assume that the problem is in the burning program you used. I have always and exclusively used Puppy's Menu -> Multimedia -> Burniso2cd to make multisession DVDs. I believe Pburn may also do the job correctly but I haven't tried it for that.

If you have a rewritable DVD handy, use that until you figure out the problem. No sense making coasters. Burniso2cd will overwrite whatever is on it, so you don't have to blank the disk first to reuse it.

Ted Dog · Joined: 13 Sep 2005 Posts: 987 Location: Heart of Texas

A update patch may fix that. There was a pet on the developer blog a week or so ago

Jack Rex · Joined: 20 Mar 2013 Posts: 7

Jack Rex · Joined: 20 Mar 2013 Posts: 7

James C · Joined: 26 Mar 2009 Posts: 4742 Location: Kentucky

From the same link
http://www.puppylinux.com/multi-puppy.htm

`f00 · Last edited by `f00 on Wed 20 Mar 2013, 22:06; edited 1 time in total

@Jack Rex
I can definitely sympathize - getting the 1st chicken/egg is tricky. Took me awhile (yes, DO use rw media) and I think I didn't even bother with multisession. Once you have the dog she's ready to burniso2cd, straight-for-frugal ~or~ multisession on cd or dvd reliably, there's even a final step to verify the burn Very Happy

tips - check the md5 of the iso you dl ~and~ burn slow (4x)

oya, welcome to the pldf (aka kennels Wink

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Ted Dog · Joined: 13 Sep 2005 Posts: 987 Location: Heart of Texas

http://distro.ibiblio.org/quirky/pet_packages-wary5/service_pack-5.5_TO_5.5.1_wary5.pet
from here
http://bkhome.org/blog2/?viewDetailed=00176

Jack Rex · Joined: 20 Mar 2013 Posts: 7

f00, Thank you.
Ted, thanks for the link.
Now in order to test whether the service pack worked, I need to be able to save sessions on to the DVD. However, after the first shutdown, as I had installed programs and made changes, I saved those sessions on the disk, as well as subsequent sessions, including the service pack. So is there a way, I can save puppy sessions on a live DVD on shutdowns, instead of the disk drive? ( Remember I chose save to disk drive on the first shutdown so Puppy does that on every shutdown. )

Thank You

tallboy · Joined: 21 Sep 2010 Posts: 346 Location: Oslo, Norway

I have always downloaded puppy and burnt it first time to a CD, in another linux, not as multisession. Then, after loading and remastering the puppy, I have used Burniso2CD from the menu, as Flash describes, to make the final disc. If you use a CD-R, you get the option to burn it multisession or not, if you use a DVD-R, it always burn multisession by default. Personally, I don't see the point in using the more expensive DVD-RW, when you can burn about 1000 sessions on a low priced DVD-R.

Re saving your changes to a new DVD: I have some links here for you, that I used to get some idea on how to make things work. They cover some of the issues, but you should definitely make a new search to find something better, of a similar kind.

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=49251

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=79047

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=64353

This may also be interesting, after you get a live DVD-R to work:
Save directories to DVD+RW as sessions, using growisofs

tallboy

Flash · Posted: Thu 21 Mar 2013, 11:03 Post subject:

Ah, I think Jack didn't make it clear in his first post, but it appears from a close reading of his latest post that he saved to the hard disk drive on his first shutdown, and wants to know how to change that to the DVD.

Jack, if that's the case you basically have to start over. Boot the DVD with the pfix=ram option so you can delete the Save file from your hard disk, then reboot the DVD, install the programs and make the changes you want, then save to the DVD when you shut down.

tallboy · Joined: 21 Sep 2010 Posts: 346 Location: Oslo, Norway

Jack Rex, don't give up even if there will be some extra work to make things perfect, you'll learn a lot from the process. I am now on my fourth total remaster of my LupuPlus_5.2.8, and it'll probably be a fifth also, my old dpups were remastered so many times that in the end I had to start with a fresh iso. There is always some little thing missing, or that you forgot to remove, or that you should have configured, or..., and..., or... Rolling Eyes

tallboy

Flash · Posted: Thu 21 Mar 2013, 22:26 Post subject:

Tallboy, have you ever tried using a multisession CD or DVD? It would be great if you could compare multisession to remastering, which I've never done. I'm just lazy, I guess. Multisession seems to be all I need.

tallboy · Joined: 21 Sep 2010 Posts: 346 Location: Oslo, Norway

Flash, I only use multisession CD and DVDs, and correct me if I interpret your question incorrect: have I tried to just save the session when shutting down, after modifying the puppy, instead of remastering?

Yes I have, but if you only save the changes instead of remastering the puppy, it just grow and grow and then takes forever to boot on my old machines! I have also had a problem with moving the saved disc between machines. Such a save also save the changes to your setup, so the puppy is suddenly limited to be used on one machine.

I prefer to make the puppy as close to perfection as possible, and then save .pets for big programs, or an .sfs or any other file, to a new session on the disc, like you did with your books. That allows me to install for example Gimp or OpenOfice, in a few seconds from the DVD when I need it (which is not very often). Files in work, like .gramps, are saved to an external HD or memory stick.

It makes for a very portable puppy, I can just move the DVD between my machines (I have had access to the uni's container for old IT equipment, so I have a few...!).

It has the disadvantage that I have to set the language, timezone and maybe even the graphic driver every time I start a machine, but that is just rutine that don't take long time to do anyway.

tallboy

Jack Rex · Joined: 20 Mar 2013 Posts: 7

Thanks everybody for replies. Ted, thanks for the patch, it WORKED!!!
When I tried it on a laptop computer to start afresh, Puppy burnt my session on to DVD, and retrieved it on next boot. Wine 1.3, which I installed, was THERE ON IT!!! Very Happy

Ted, further thanks to you for having posted on how to burn iso to DVD, making it multisession using growisofs under Windows.

I will now try it under my desktop and mark the post as 'Solved' if it worked! Very Happy