Of course savefile saved update will cover previous version. Deleting the folder might be recommandable as safety measure though.
I think James C just told how he did it.
Preferred method depends on what you want.
Upup Precise 3.8.3.1 created by using up-to-date Woof
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gcmartin
Agree with Pemasu.......the new contents will just overwrite the old. My method places nothing in the savefile...... the overwrite method places SeaMonkey in the savefile...about 45 mb uncompressed.gcmartin wrote:Would a download from mozilla and a replacement of the folder be advisable over a save-session, reboot? Would the save-session capture the update changes?
Or is that method flawed or potentially hazardous?
Thanks for comments.
[Fixed] Clock problem (Full 3.8.2)
G'day pemasu,
While waiting to finish the 383 download, I thought I could mention I have a full 382 which forgets the time each start-up. Everything else is excellent.
It can be an hour fast (we are still in daylight saving here in Sydney) or twelve hours out. Psync fixes the problem but I have not seen a time-problem like this with any previous Pup.
I'll see what happens with 383.
David S.
PS: Installing a Full-383 over the Full-382 seems to have fixed the odd clock behaviour. My Full 382 was made over a non-working Full PHATslacko and I may not have correctly wiped the partition before installing the Full 382. I also see my Frugal-382 does not have a clock-boot problem, also pointing to the 382-Full install being corrupted.
While waiting to finish the 383 download, I thought I could mention I have a full 382 which forgets the time each start-up. Everything else is excellent.
It can be an hour fast (we are still in daylight saving here in Sydney) or twelve hours out. Psync fixes the problem but I have not seen a time-problem like this with any previous Pup.
I'll see what happens with 383.
David S.
PS: Installing a Full-383 over the Full-382 seems to have fixed the odd clock behaviour. My Full 382 was made over a non-working Full PHATslacko and I may not have correctly wiped the partition before installing the Full 382. I also see my Frugal-382 does not have a clock-boot problem, also pointing to the 382-Full install being corrupted.
Doing a hardware check using the old 3.7.2 version...... first cd that I grabbed. 
Anyway,it works. 
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VIDEO REPORT: Upup Precise, version 3.7.2
Chip description:
oem: ATI RADEON Xpress 200G Series
Requested by /etc/X11/xorg.conf:
Resolution (widthxheight, in pixels): 1024x768
Depth (bits, or planes): 24
Modules requested to be loaded: dbe
Probing Xorg startup log file (/var/log/Xorg.0.log):
Driver loaded (and currently in use): ati
Loaded modules: dbe dri dri2 exa extmod fb glx kbd mouse radeon ramdac record
Actual rendering on monitor:
Resolution: 1024x768 pixels (270x203 millimeters)
Depth: 24 planes
...the above also recorded in /tmp/report-video
# glxgears
Running synchronized to the vertical refresh. The framerate should be
approximately the same as the monitor refresh rate.
343 frames in 5.0 seconds = 68.462 FPS
376 frames in 5.0 seconds = 75.028 FPS
376 frames in 5.0 seconds = 75.030 FPS
376 frames in 5.0 seconds = 75.029 FPS
376 frames in 5.0 seconds = 75.029 FPS
375 frames in 5.0 seconds = 74.806 FPS
-Computer-
Processor : AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3400+
Memory : 967MB (196MB used)
Operating System : Unknown distribution
User Name : root (root)
Date/Time : Sun 17 Mar 2013 11:37:36 PM CDT
-Display-
Resolution : 1024x768 pixels
OpenGL Renderer : Gallium 0.4 on ATI RS480
X11 Vendor : The X.Org Foundation
-Multimedia-
Audio Adapter : ATIIXP - ATI IXP
Figured it would be a change using an ATI box......
Anyway,it works. .VIDEO REPORT: Upup Precise, version 3.7.2
Chip description:
oem: ATI RADEON Xpress 200G Series
Requested by /etc/X11/xorg.conf:
Resolution (widthxheight, in pixels): 1024x768
Depth (bits, or planes): 24
Modules requested to be loaded: dbe
Probing Xorg startup log file (/var/log/Xorg.0.log):
Driver loaded (and currently in use): ati
Loaded modules: dbe dri dri2 exa extmod fb glx kbd mouse radeon ramdac record
Actual rendering on monitor:
Resolution: 1024x768 pixels (270x203 millimeters)
Depth: 24 planes
...the above also recorded in /tmp/report-video
# glxgears
Running synchronized to the vertical refresh. The framerate should be
approximately the same as the monitor refresh rate.
343 frames in 5.0 seconds = 68.462 FPS
376 frames in 5.0 seconds = 75.028 FPS
376 frames in 5.0 seconds = 75.030 FPS
376 frames in 5.0 seconds = 75.029 FPS
376 frames in 5.0 seconds = 75.029 FPS
375 frames in 5.0 seconds = 74.806 FPS
-Computer-
Processor : AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3400+
Memory : 967MB (196MB used)
Operating System : Unknown distribution
User Name : root (root)
Date/Time : Sun 17 Mar 2013 11:37:36 PM CDT
-Display-
Resolution : 1024x768 pixels
OpenGL Renderer : Gallium 0.4 on ATI RS480
X11 Vendor : The X.Org Foundation
-Multimedia-
Audio Adapter : ATIIXP - ATI IXP
Figured it would be a change using an ATI box......
3.8.3 kernel with ISA bus support and support for ISA soundcards has been compiled and in use now when posting.
I noticed problem with latest woof. Barry Kauler fixed the problem. Solution was easy, rename duplicated DISTRO_SPECS names. I have fixed the DISTRO_SPECS now and I am processing the build. I added PupClock, PupControl and PupSysinfo. Thanks Radky.
I have patched and compiled catalyst 13.1 modern and legacy drivers.
I have HDMI connection with audio working to my LCD TV and to its speakers. Irish Pub Radio is playing by Pmusic in TV speakers.
I have to admit that I smiled when Pogues played in Irish Pub Radio.
I worked in the Provinssirock stage in 1986 when Pogues played there...in FInland...in my hometown when I was youth. There were Fine Young Cannibals, Pogues, Cult and Big Country in Provinssirock that year. That was great year to be in work at music festival.
So...new kernel works fine with proprietary catalyst driver through hdmi cable.
I noticed problem with latest woof. Barry Kauler fixed the problem. Solution was easy, rename duplicated DISTRO_SPECS names. I have fixed the DISTRO_SPECS now and I am processing the build. I added PupClock, PupControl and PupSysinfo. Thanks Radky.
I have patched and compiled catalyst 13.1 modern and legacy drivers.
I have HDMI connection with audio working to my LCD TV and to its speakers. Irish Pub Radio is playing by Pmusic in TV speakers.
I have to admit that I smiled when Pogues played in Irish Pub Radio.
I worked in the Provinssirock stage in 1986 when Pogues played there...in FInland...in my hometown when I was youth. There were Fine Young Cannibals, Pogues, Cult and Big Country in Provinssirock that year. That was great year to be in work at music festival.
So...new kernel works fine with proprietary catalyst driver through hdmi cable.
I hadn't been having much good luck with the 3.8.X kernels so I've been hesitating to upgrade some installs.Your last kernel works so well I just upgraded one of my Sid installs.....
So far so good.
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james@openbox:~$ uname -r
3.8-3.towo-siduction-686More problems with new woof. If there is duplicate generic name database entries in Packages-puppy-*-official files, ie duplicate entries inside some used database file, then the package is not processed.
This is again findpkg script problem ....due to arch compatibilty.
I need to report this again to Barry Kauler.
My latest upload...which I have not announced yet...but one tester downloaded....noticed that puppyinstaller did not launch, because Xdialog is missing. And it was missing because xdialog pet was not processed....and it was not processed because there is duplicate database generic name in Packages-puppy-wary5-official:
xdialog-.3.1-20110924_patched_extrabutton_dougal_default_nostrip_debian2-5c|xdialog|
xdialog-2.3.1-patched_amigo-w5c|xdialog|
Now I wonder why I had Packages-puppy-wary5-official preferred instead of Packages-puppy-common-official.
So....I have to take one more woofing with older findpkgs file and with swapped order for package download repos.
Thank you eps of your report....with build which is not announced...lol
I have removed that upload now....
This is again findpkg script problem ....due to arch compatibilty.
I need to report this again to Barry Kauler.
My latest upload...which I have not announced yet...but one tester downloaded....noticed that puppyinstaller did not launch, because Xdialog is missing. And it was missing because xdialog pet was not processed....and it was not processed because there is duplicate database generic name in Packages-puppy-wary5-official:
xdialog-.3.1-20110924_patched_extrabutton_dougal_default_nostrip_debian2-5c|xdialog|
xdialog-2.3.1-patched_amigo-w5c|xdialog|
Now I wonder why I had Packages-puppy-wary5-official preferred instead of Packages-puppy-common-official.
So....I have to take one more woofing with older findpkgs file and with swapped order for package download repos.
Thank you eps of your report....with build which is not announced...lol
I have removed that upload now....
status update?
A question has been bugging me for a couple days. I've always thought of myself as a Linux noob. Not the most honorable, but a well deserved rank. So I thought until very recently. Now I have some serious doubts as to the correctness of my status. The reason? I have successfully compiled not one, but the whole two items for upup precise383!
1) eee.ko module
2) JWM (iconless).
(see attached image)
With this much of compiling experience under the belt, what am I - a noob, compiler, dev?
Just kidding. As a matter of fact, I should thank rcrsn51 for giving me a kick start howto for my first attempt and scsijon for his howto on compiling JWM.
1) eee.ko module
2) JWM (iconless).
(see attached image)
With this much of compiling experience under the belt, what am I - a noob, compiler, dev?
Just kidding. As a matter of fact, I should thank rcrsn51 for giving me a kick start howto for my first attempt and scsijon for his howto on compiling JWM.
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Anikin. That is great. It wont take long when you start to ask questions about whole kernel compiling. 
By the way. In the next build is recompiled 3.8.3 kernel due to ISA involvement. But I have included your needed eee.ko in that build straight. I didnt do that because I want to diminish your achievement but because your post reminded your need for that module and there might be others who would like to have fan control in their comp. I dont remember exact specs or your comp which benefits from that module. I just remember it needed some other extra work also.
By the way. In the next build is recompiled 3.8.3 kernel due to ISA involvement. But I have included your needed eee.ko in that build straight. I didnt do that because I want to diminish your achievement but because your post reminded your need for that module and there might be others who would like to have fan control in their comp. I dont remember exact specs or your comp which benefits from that module. I just remember it needed some other extra work also.
Upup Precise 3.8.3.1 has been uploaded. It has 3.8.3 kernel with ISA bus and ISA sound card support. Driver support is as large as I have figured it should be...which means that still something useful might be missing.
I have used latest woof atm....which had some problems with duplicate generic names.. At the last moment e2fsprogs vs. util-linux clash was found and it has been fixed in this build.
PupControl, PupSysinfo and PupClock has been added. Otherwise this build is kernel update. Previous kernel sources does not work. You need to update to the latest kernel-sources-3.8.3 version uploaded today.
Ati modern and legacy pets has been updated and the Quickpet has been updated accordingly to use them.
Some other small changes. Rox focus square added for keyboard select.
Fonts this time like they have been in dpup exprimo builds. Request by several users. Yeah I know, someone protest the change soon, lol.
Download link: http://www.smokey01.com/pemasu/UpupPrec ... ecise3831/
Kernel sources: http://www.smokey01.com/pemasu/Kernel_s ... .8.3-upup/
I have used latest woof atm....which had some problems with duplicate generic names.. At the last moment e2fsprogs vs. util-linux clash was found and it has been fixed in this build.
PupControl, PupSysinfo and PupClock has been added. Otherwise this build is kernel update. Previous kernel sources does not work. You need to update to the latest kernel-sources-3.8.3 version uploaded today.
Ati modern and legacy pets has been updated and the Quickpet has been updated accordingly to use them.
Some other small changes. Rox focus square added for keyboard select.
Fonts this time like they have been in dpup exprimo builds. Request by several users. Yeah I know, someone protest the change soon, lol.
Download link: http://www.smokey01.com/pemasu/UpupPrec ... ecise3831/
Kernel sources: http://www.smokey01.com/pemasu/Kernel_s ... .8.3-upup/
Upup Precise 3.8.3.1 created by using up-to-date Woof
Manual frugal install to a SDHC card.
video-info-glx 1.5.3 Tue19Mar2013on Upup Precise 3.8.3.1 Linux 3.8.3-upup i686
0.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI RV530
[Radeon X1600]
oem: ATI ATOMBIOS
product: RV530 01.00
X Server: Xorg Driver: radeon
X.Org version: 1.11.3
dimensions: 1440x900 pixels (380x238 millimeters)
depth of root window: 24 planes
direct rendering: Yes
server glx vendor string: SGI
server glx version string: 1.4
OpenGL vendor string: X.Org R300 Project
OpenGL renderer string: Gallium 0.4 on ATI RV530
OpenGL version string: 2.1 Mesa 8.0.4
AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3300+
Core 0: @1800 MHz
The ati legacy pet doesn't support the ati x1600 pro in this pc but
the opensource driver works well, google earth works well.
Vlc works, 3831 is working well on this pc.
Thanks
EDIT:I've given 3.8.3.1 a good workout this morning and it's a keeper
video-info-glx 1.5.3 Tue19Mar2013on Upup Precise 3.8.3.1 Linux 3.8.3-upup i686
0.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI RV530
[Radeon X1600]
oem: ATI ATOMBIOS
product: RV530 01.00
X Server: Xorg Driver: radeon
X.Org version: 1.11.3
dimensions: 1440x900 pixels (380x238 millimeters)
depth of root window: 24 planes
direct rendering: Yes
server glx vendor string: SGI
server glx version string: 1.4
OpenGL vendor string: X.Org R300 Project
OpenGL renderer string: Gallium 0.4 on ATI RV530
OpenGL version string: 2.1 Mesa 8.0.4
AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3300+
Core 0: @1800 MHz
The ati legacy pet doesn't support the ati x1600 pro in this pc but
the opensource driver works well, google earth works well.
Vlc works, 3831 is working well on this pc.
Thanks
EDIT:I've given 3.8.3.1 a good workout this morning and it's a keeper
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Upup Precise version 3.8.3, released Mar 2013
# free
total used free shared buffers
Mem: 1804720 760932 1043788 0 47512
-/+ buffers: 713420 1091300
Swap: 0 0 0
#
Mem: 761128K used, 1043592K free, 0K shrd, 47512K buff, 561320K cached
CPU: 2% usr 0% sys 0% nic 97% idle 0% io 0% irq 0% sirq
Load average: 0.20 0.53 0.39 2/126 11409
# uname -a
Linux puppypc7681 3.8.3-upup #1 SMP Sat Mar 16 22:25:36 GMT-8 2013 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux
JFYI - Uptime = 3 days and all seems very good. (d/l 3831 now)
# free
total used free shared buffers
Mem: 1804720 760932 1043788 0 47512
-/+ buffers: 713420 1091300
Swap: 0 0 0
#
Mem: 761128K used, 1043592K free, 0K shrd, 47512K buff, 561320K cached
CPU: 2% usr 0% sys 0% nic 97% idle 0% io 0% irq 0% sirq
Load average: 0.20 0.53 0.39 2/126 11409
# uname -a
Linux puppypc7681 3.8.3-upup #1 SMP Sat Mar 16 22:25:36 GMT-8 2013 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux
JFYI - Uptime = 3 days and all seems very good. (d/l 3831 now)
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[b]Asus[/b] 701SD. 2gig ram. 8gb SSD. [b]IBM A21m[/b] laptop. 192mb ram. PIII Coppermine proc. [b]X60[/b] T2400 1.8Ghz proc. 2gig ram. 80gb hdd. [b]T41[/b] Pentium M 1400Mhz. 512mb ram.
Hi pemasu,
Running Upup with 3.8.3.1 kernel all looks good. Did a remaster and installed on usb stick. Next will have to try the f2f's for flash drives.
My wife asked if I was looking at a new os up up precise having fun with words
Running Upup with 3.8.3.1 kernel all looks good. Did a remaster and installed on usb stick. Next will have to try the f2f's for flash drives.
My wife asked if I was looking at a new os up up precise having fun with words
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looking forward to gtk-3.0
Hi Pemasu,
later gnumeric 1.12 seems now requiring gtk-3.0. I do not know if feasable to compile iti with gtk-2.0.
gnumeric 1.12 has new functionnalities like export features (not present on 1.10.17).
So gtk-2.0 would not allow to get better than gnumeric version 1.10.17.
Some Puppies have now gtk-3.0 (i.e forum member ttuuxxx's latest Puppy 2.14; as also LxPup-Full ).
Are there plans to have gtk-3.0 in Precise (or even in wheezy?)?
i got a try installing debian-sid's gnumeric-1.12 on wheezy --> i began to try installing gtk-3.0 on wheezy; after installing the requested deps, i got a message telling about some incompatibilities --> i gave up --> maybe better to forget having gtk-3.0 on wheezy..??
Thanks for any comment
Charlie
later gnumeric 1.12 seems now requiring gtk-3.0. I do not know if feasable to compile iti with gtk-2.0.
gnumeric 1.12 has new functionnalities like export features (not present on 1.10.17).
So gtk-2.0 would not allow to get better than gnumeric version 1.10.17.
Some Puppies have now gtk-3.0 (i.e forum member ttuuxxx's latest Puppy 2.14; as also LxPup-Full ).
Are there plans to have gtk-3.0 in Precise (or even in wheezy?)?
i got a try installing debian-sid's gnumeric-1.12 on wheezy --> i began to try installing gtk-3.0 on wheezy; after installing the requested deps, i got a message telling about some incompatibilities --> i gave up --> maybe better to forget having gtk-3.0 on wheezy..??
Thanks for any comment
Charlie
Charlie6. I do not have plan to include gtk-3. But if you install the needed libs and stuff, I think you get gtk-3 needed apps working atm.
I dont have plan to update gnumeric atm also. The reason. I do use LibreOffice and I am not very experienced gnumeric - goffice - abiword compiler. I did compile them for dpup wheezy, but that was my only one so far. In dpup exprimos I did even strip them off.
Never say never and so on....but atm...I dont have much ambition to update them.
Sorry.
I dont have plan to update gnumeric atm also. The reason. I do use LibreOffice and I am not very experienced gnumeric - goffice - abiword compiler. I did compile them for dpup wheezy, but that was my only one so far. In dpup exprimos I did even strip them off.
Never say never and so on....but atm...I dont have much ambition to update them.
Sorry.