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James C


Joined: 26 Mar 2009
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Location: Kentucky

PostPosted: Fri 15 Mar 2013, 11:26    Post subject:  The original Arch Puppy 007
Subject description: released Feb 2009
 

Courtesy of the famed developer shuvvoff_b4iletuavit. Smile

Upload completed of the original Arch Puppy 007..... vintage Feb. 2009.
ISO:
http://www.smokey01.com/JamesC/Arch%20Puppy/apup-007.iso

MD5
http://www.smokey01.com/JamesC/Arch%20Puppy/apup%20md5.txt

EDIT: Primarily uploaded for historical reference.


Code:
# cat /etc/DISTRO_SPECS
#DISTRO_FILE_PREFIX: prefix for Puppy files... exs: upup-500.sfs, upupsave.2fs, upupz500.sfs
#DISTRO_VERSION: this is the version number of Puppy that you are building. must be 3 digits.
#package list and urls are in file DISTRO-PKGS-SPECS-${DISTRO_BINARY_COMPAT}.

DISTRO_VERSION="007"
DISTRO_BINARY_COMPAT="arch" #####change this as required#####

case $DISTRO_BINARY_COMPAT in
 ubuntu)
  DISTRO_NAME="Intrepid Puppy"
  DISTRO_FILE_PREFIX="upup"
  DISTRO_COMPAT_VERSION="intrepid"
 ;;
 debian)
  DISTRO_NAME="Lenny Puppy"
  DISTRO_FILE_PREFIX="dpup"
  DISTRO_COMPAT_VERSION="lenny"
 ;;
 slackware)
  DISTRO_NAME="Slack Puppy"
  DISTRO_FILE_PREFIX="spup"
  DISTRO_COMPAT_VERSION="12.2"
 ;;
 arch)
  DISTRO_NAME="Arch Puppy"
  DISTRO_FILE_PREFIX="apup"
  DISTRO_COMPAT_VERSION="200902"
 ;;
esac
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ally


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PostPosted: Fri 15 Mar 2013, 11:33    Post subject:  

thanks for posting this!

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James C


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PostPosted: Fri 15 Mar 2013, 11:37    Post subject:  

After consultation with the famed developer shuvvoff_b4iletuavit, I'll upload this a bit later.

EDIT:
Uploading now........
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James C


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PostPosted: Fri 15 Mar 2013, 12:47    Post subject:  

Download links in the first post. Obviously works since I was posting from it...... some bugs to be expected though.
No Pacman because it's Puppy....uses the good old PPM. Laughing
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ally


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PostPosted: Fri 15 Mar 2013, 13:12    Post subject:  

I hope all the bitchin' stops now, don't understand where all the hate has come from

simargl's work is very impressive but all the negativity, it's bringing me down man......!!

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Billtoo


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PostPosted: Fri 15 Mar 2013, 13:40    Post subject: The original Arch Puppy 007  

I did a manual frugal install to a 32gb flash drive.
video-info-glx 1.5.2 Fri 15 Mar 2013 on Arch Puppy 007 Linux 2.6.25.16 i686
oem: ATI ATOMBIOS
vendor: (C) 1988-2005, ATI Technologies Inc.
product: RV530 01.00
X Server: Xorg Driver: radeon
X.Org version: 1.5.3
dimensions: 1440x900 pixels (410x257 millimeters)
depth of root window: 24 planes
AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3300+
Core 0: @2411 MHz

I can play a cd at least Smile
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James C


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PostPosted: Fri 15 Mar 2013, 13:55    Post subject:  

ally wrote:
I hope all the bitchin' stops now, don't understand where all the hate has come from

simargl's work is very impressive but all the negativity, it's bringing me down man......!!

Smile


Agreed. I don't think that the quality of simargl's work has ever been in question.Very impressive actually.
However the personal attacks on forum members and developers needed to be addressed.
I figure that famed developer shuvvoff_b4iletuavit will address the matter in due time.
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PostPosted: Fri 15 Mar 2013, 14:49    Post subject:  

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James C


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PostPosted: Fri 15 Mar 2013, 14:55    Post subject:  

simargl wrote:

And James I wouldn't be surprised if shuvvoff_b4iletuavit is nothing more than just your 2nd account Wink


Sorry. I am not shuvvoff_b4iletuavit. All things may be revealed in time. Smile
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James C


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PostPosted: Fri 15 Mar 2013, 15:07    Post subject:  

Fresh frugal install.....

Computer-
Processor : AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2400+
Memory : 1035MB (129MB used)
Operating System : Puppy Linux 0.00
User Name : root (root)
Date/Time : Fri Mar 15 14:06:22 2013
-Display-
Resolution : 1440x900 pixels
OpenGL Renderer : Unknown
X11 Vendor : The X.Org Foundation
-Multimedia-
Audio Adapter : VIA8233 - VIA 8235

-Version-
Kernel : Linux 2.6.25.16 (i686)
Compiled : #1 Tue Aug 26 10:45:53 GMT-8 2008
C Library : GNU C Library version 2.9 (stable)
Distribution : Puppy Linux 0.00
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Chili Dog


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PostPosted: Fri 15 Mar 2013, 15:13    Post subject:  

James C wrote:
All things may be revealed in time. Smile

Now I'm super curious! Laughing
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PostPosted: Fri 15 Mar 2013, 15:25    Post subject:  

Latest Opera works......
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ally


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PostPosted: Fri 15 Mar 2013, 15:27    Post subject:  

it just keeps coming

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Keef


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Location: Staffordshire

PostPosted: Fri 15 Mar 2013, 17:54    Post subject:  

Pmount doesn't work though. Dies if I click on a drive or Preferences.
Desktop drive icons work ok.
Otherwise nothing exciting to report, works as well others of that vintage on my PIII 850 Compaq thigh-warmer...
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01micko


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PostPosted: Fri 15 Mar 2013, 21:03    Post subject:  

Hi everybody,

Time to come clean. shuvvoff is my account. It was first used here when I was having trouble with my account which turned out to be a forum bug. I created that name mainly because my wireless network got hacked by a neighbour and I used it as my access point once I found him. He didn't get anything, maybe a few K of bandwidth. Anyway, seemed like a good name to use when seemingly my forum account was compromised.

I only used it in these instances for a bit of fun, no malice intended, but if I had of posted as 01micko I'm sure there would have been more controversy drawn to puppyluvr's thread.

Firstly, lets address archpup.

Barry created woof, the successor to puppy unleashed. His intention was to create a "magical script" that could use the binary packages of another distro yet still maintain all the characteristics that make puppy. His first attempt was with Ubuntu Intrepid. A "99 MB" ubuntu. At around the same time Barry added support for Arch, Debian and Slackware to woof.

The version of woof that built the first arch pup is long dead and buried. In fact, it was advertised by Barry as used for building slack pup. See here. Woof was in alpha stage and arch puppy was more or less POC (Proof of Concept). Despite that, it built and ran fine and the resulting iso is the one which James C posted. It is mainly for historical reasons and is not intended for everyday use. That said, anyone can use it and modify it if it runs well on their hardware. I did not upload this iso image at the time, I wasn't a developer then and am only now thanks to the push by Lobster and the lack of a successor to Lupu. Barry was busy with other stuff and didn't release an official puppy for quite awhile so I ran with the ball and brought spup, aka Slacko up to release standard. This was after extensively helping playdayz with Lupu, the first woof built official puppy not released by Barry. WhoDo did relese Puppy-4.20 and 4.21 but these were not woof builds. They used unleashed.

You can see evidence of my involvement with early Arch Puppy development in the post reference by here (scroll down the arch forum post link). It was problems like very large packages that pushed me to spup so I discontinued my Arch experiment. Barry is still experiencing this today, see Barry's blog.

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Now for some OT

This is somewhat of attempt to clear the air.

I made a post here that ignited some flames.

Let me explain. I have been a long time colaborator with mavrothal in relation to OLPC and xo-pup. It seemed mavrothal was a bit peeved and I reacted. Probably not a good decision in retrospect, however there were a lot of archpup threads popping up in what I thought strange places. It was not my intention to diss simargl's Archpup at all. In fact I think is a great idea with an unfortunate naming clash. There was no malice intended, just to point out that Barry had already delved into arch based puppy and that a distro is more or less defined by it's package management system which in my eyes made simargl's Archpup more Arch with Puppy flavour rather than Puppy with Arch flavour. Lesson learned, don't post when pissed off!

simargl, as for stealing your ideas as referenced here, I was aware that your Archpup is using Adrive technology, however I was completely unaware that you were a contributing developer. As far as I know, it was jemimah's concept implemented in Saluki modified by mavrothal. If this is wrong I will credit you on the first page of the PHATSlacko thread. I was also unaware of your method to unpack packages and put them in an sfs. This, I thought, was not a new idea and I created a rough script called alien2puppy based on others' work with some of my own ideas, which incidentally is a bit broken, but hey it was posted awhile ago and I was just beginning. The script I posted for rek769 only adds the package list description, which I have since modified to express in PPM format.

And a death wish? No way! Never made one of those in my life, and if I were to, it wouldn't be a wish. I used "bitter end" as a figure of speech. I don't care if you don't like me. I don't care if you think I'm a poor developer. (I am actually a learning developer). One thing I am not is a wisher of such bad and a hater. No way again! Have a long life and every success in your pursuits simargl. There you go. That clarifies that. Good luck with alphaOS.

Please supply a civilised response if you decide to respond. I'm sure James wont mind. I don't care if you are critical of me, I can take it Smile .
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NB: The Arch pup posted in the main post by James C was mainly supplied for Puppy historical purposes.

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