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partsman

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PostPosted: Thu 14 Mar 2013, 23:01    Post subject:  

sc0ttman wrote :
There are lots of how tos and guides for random bits n bobs in /root/my-documents/akita/ ... including stuff on compiling, saving online streams, using puppy in general, saving settings, etc ..

Thanks for the info sc0ttman ! I love trying to compile. Some things i have managed to do Smile While others are a bit more challenging Confused
I am gonna try taking a more serious look around in akita there are so many tools and programs you have provided its just unreal to me Very Happy
Just another reason why I LOVE AKITA ! Very Happy
Thanks for your ongoing support of akita Very Happy And thanks for the info
sc0ttman it is much appreciated Wink

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PostPosted: Fri 15 Mar 2013, 01:32    Post subject: gtk1 apps  

sc0ttman wrote :
Last thing, I'd like lots of gtk1 apps in the Akita repo, so I would really appreciate links to gtk1 apps/repos that'll work in akita... I know goingnuts and amigo et al must've made some stuff...

I would love to be able to help Very Happy but your gonna have to enlighten me
on gtk or gtk1 not sure exactly what that meens Confused still have alot to learn here Laughing but would love to help Wink

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PostPosted: Fri 15 Mar 2013, 04:02    Post subject: Solved the sound problem.
Subject description: Retrovol not working
 

I solved the problem in a bass-ackwards sort of way. I was testing Wary 5.5 on the old TUV4x which also had no sound. Went into ALSA Wizard and found all the levels at zero. Had to raise the analog levels to get any sound out. Booted the computer with Akita-13 disc(last version that the sound worked) and found that the ALSA Wizard had also gone to zero, repeated the process. Same with B11 and B12. Booted from Akita-14 disc and yup the levels in ALSA Wizard were all at zero and again no sound until I raised the analog levels. . How it affected the other saves files is a mystery that I'll have to figure out later. My sound card is pretty ancient, a Creative Audio 0106 Sound Blaster but it had worked without running the ALSA Wizards in Akita, Betas 9-13. Weird,eh?
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PostPosted: Fri 15 Mar 2013, 06:26    Post subject:  

@partsman, you might appreciate pa-mcclamrocks site here http://www.pa-mcclamrock.com/icebox.html, I think I've mentioned it before on this thread regarding Akita's fabulous potential as an educational tool, but as you've just raised GTK+ there's a bit of an explanation there ("...it's the "GIMP Tool Kit" for producing good-looking graphical windows with consistent color schemes" - Pa McClamrock)
Beyond that, I know nada - I'm an end-user (luser, joked one of the developers - pretty aptly) so I wish you the very best with your learning journey. Send Postcards in the forms of pets, tutorials and the odd feedback for us perennial tragics, will you?

@sc0ttman - really sorry about not getting back to you re the HDMI audio settings on my HD5450 glx video card, you so kindly posted an updated driver here http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=676163#676163. Now, I just haven't had the time to explore the issue lately though as I mentioned, FatDog Beta610 picked it up fine after I changed a VLC setting - but it has a different set of options than yours, or even the non-GTK version I think I downloaded from your repository, and I haven't explored further. But I'm excited about this little mention recently with a similar card, as to getting HDMI audio on a Radeon HD 6250 - http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=84945&search_id=2097657167 a gem of a solution, perhaps, from new poster Kerry Blue?
Kerry Blue wrote:
After many hours I just solved it!!!! (boy, am I happy)

Change the following entries in /usr/share/alsa/alsa.conf with an editor from value "card 0" to "card 1":

So inside /usr/share/alsa/alsa.conf change these lines, from :

defaults.ctl.card 0 to defaults.ctl.card 1
defaults.pcm.card 1 to defaults.pcm.card 1
defaults.rawmidi.card 1 to defaults.rawmidi.card 1
defaults.hwdep.card 1 to defaults.hwdep.card 1
defaults.timer.card 1 to defaults.timer.card 1

Then run alsaconf and select the right soundcard: I now have sound!
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PostPosted: Fri 15 Mar 2013, 08:13    Post subject:  

Puppyt wrote:
@partsman, you might appreciate pa-mcclamrocks site here http://www.pa-mcclamrock.com/icebox.html, I think I've mentioned it before on this thread

This pet is those apps, setup to work with gtk like interface (needs tcl/tk,gnocl...) : http://akita.scottjarvis.com/wish_apps-001-akita.pet I recommend you get it from the PPM, not here, as the PPM will install the required deps... It includes a great dual pane file manager, account manager, disc burning prog, text editor, graphical tcl console, ... progs usually need at least 1024x768 (only cos i insisted on using the gnocl version)...

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@sc0ttman - really sorry about not getting back to you re the HDMI audio settings on my HD5450 glx video card, you so kindly posted an updated driver here http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=676163#676163. Now, I just haven't had the time to explore the issue lately though as I mentioned, FatDog Beta610 picked it up fine after I changed a VLC setting - but it has a different set of options than yours, or even the non-GTK version I think I downloaded from your repository, and I haven't explored further. But I'm excited about this little mention recently with a similar card, as to getting HDMI audio on a Radeon HD 6250 - http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=84945&search_id=2097657167 a gem of a solution, perhaps, from new poster Kerry Blue?
Kerry Blue wrote:
After many hours I just solved it!!!! (boy, am I happy)

Change the following entries in /usr/share/alsa/alsa.conf with an editor from value "card 0" to "card 1":

So inside /usr/share/alsa/alsa.conf change these lines, from :

defaults.ctl.card 0 to defaults.ctl.card 1
defaults.pcm.card 1 to defaults.pcm.card 1
defaults.rawmidi.card 1 to defaults.rawmidi.card 1
defaults.hwdep.card 1 to defaults.hwdep.card 1
defaults.timer.card 1 to defaults.timer.card 1

Then run alsaconf and select the right soundcard: I now have sound!
...

I'll have a play around, it's on my to do list, thanks for getting back to me about it.. But i know nowt about sound stuff - just hope to hear the barks at boot time! But presume, changing card from 0 to 1 is what the Multiple Sound Card Wizard does.... Question .. If so, it's already in akita..

Also, if you find that VLC option, or anyone else knows it (esp. the command line option), let me know!

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PostPosted: Fri 15 Mar 2013, 08:26    Post subject: Re: Solved the sound problem.
Subject description: Retrovol not working
 

LoboGrande wrote:
I solved the problem in a bass-ackwards sort of way. I was testing Wary 5.5 on the old TUV4x which also had no sound. Went into ALSA Wizard and found all the levels at zero. Had to raise the analog levels to get any sound out. Booted the computer with Akita-13 disc(last version that the sound worked) and found that the ALSA Wizard had also gone to zero, repeated the process. Same with B11 and B12. Booted from Akita-14 disc and yup the levels in ALSA Wizard were all at zero and again no sound until I raised the analog levels. . How it affected the other saves files is a mystery that I'll have to figure out later. My sound card is pretty ancient, a Creative Audio 0106 Sound Blaster but it had worked without running the ALSA Wizards in Akita, Betas 9-13. Weird,eh?

damn you wary 5,5! ... or akita ... whoever was at fault! As i mentioned above, im no sound expert, i think i could force fixed volume levels in /etc/rc.d/rc.sysinit but not sure if it's wise! (i think not...)

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PostPosted: Fri 15 Mar 2013, 08:34    Post subject:  

Partsman, if you wanna try some compiling: buildpet is for making compiling stuff easy..

if anyone wants to test it, i have updated buildpet a little bit (thanks Tman and iguleder) ... install the pet... then to use it, install the devx from the repo, and then in a terminal type

Code:
cd /usr/share/buildpet


that will put you in the directory you need to be, in there are all the build scripts..

then you type something like:

Code:
buildpet fun/freeciv.bp
and hopefully freeciv should be compiled for you, and packaged up as a pet, no fuss... kinda pointless as I just did it, and added freeciv to the repo, but anyways, there are many different build scripts...

Note: freeciv would be a much bigger pain in the neck to compile, but akita already includes most SDL libs, as does the akita devx... if not on akita, you'll need sdl, sdl_gfx, etc, and their DEV pets, installed before freeciv compiles..

to see them build scripts (all apps you can compile), you can type the following in a terminal:

Code:
find /usr/share/buildpet/


.....

Or you can try 'src2pkg' from the akita repo (also needs the devx obv), it's a bit more complicated but 1000% more powerful... you must do `src2pkg --setup` in the terminal to make it work...
buildpet_nogui-0.5.pet
Description  (optionally) needs advancecomp and opting (both in akita repo)
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PostPosted: Fri 15 Mar 2013, 23:59    Post subject:  

puppyt wrote:
@partsman, you might appreciate pa-mcclamrocks site here http://www.pa-mcclamrock.com/icebox.html, I think I've mentioned it before on this thread

Thank you very much for the info puppyt Very Happy I am sure it will be of great help Wink

@ sc0ttman
thanks for info on buildpet & src2pkg I like the sounds of src2pkg is a little better but i will be sure to check both out Wink

@ All

Thanks to all of you for the info Very Happy Kind users like you guys and others in these forums is what makes puppy great ! And why i love puppy so much Very Happy I have learned so much in the last year and all the
users documentation And awesome people such as yourselves i am
very greatful Wink hence my signature " powered by people " I too look forward to helping others ! THANKS GUYS ! Very Happy

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PostPosted: Sun 17 Mar 2013, 05:59    Post subject: Correcting my mixup
Subject description: No sound under Akita 14
 

It wasn't Alsa Wizard where I changed the volume levels, it was Alsa Mixer under the Multimedia Directory. Retrovol won't work until you go into Alsa Mixer and adjust the analog levels. Only the analog levels seem to have any effect in both Alsa Mixer or Retrovol with my CA0106 sound card.

The sound levels aren't being saved after rebooting either. Royal pain in the tuckus.
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PostPosted: Sun 17 Mar 2013, 13:01    Post subject: Re: Correcting my mixup
Subject description: No sound under Akita 14
 

LoboGrande wrote:
It wasn't Alsa Wizard where I changed the volume levels, it was Alsa Mixer under the Multimedia Directory. Retrovol won't work until you go into Alsa Mixer and adjust the analog levels. Only the analog levels seem to have any effect in both Alsa Mixer or Retrovol with my CA0106 sound card.

The sound levels aren't being saved after rebooting either. Royal pain in the tuckus.

Ah ok, I see.. I will take a look and see if I can make any improvement/hacks/workarounds!
...............

Packages added to Akita repo (now in PPM - click the 'Update' button):

- aqualung-1269-i486, in Multimedia, 641K
- aqualung_DOC-1269-i486, in Multimedia, 262K
- aqualung_NLS-1269-i486, in Multimedia, 333K
- deadbeef-0.5.6-i486, in Multimedia, 746K
- deadbeef_DEV-0.5.6-i486, in Multimedia, 15K
- deadbeef_DOC-0.5.6-i486, in Multimedia, 30K
- deadbeef_NLS-0.5.6-i486, in Multimedia, 315K
- firefox-17esr-akita, in Internet, 25M
- freeciv-2.3.4-i486, in Fun, 7973K
- freeciv_DEV-2.3.4-i486, in Fun, 8K
- freeciv_DOC-2.3.4-i486, in Fun, 7K
- freeciv_NLS-2.3.4-i486, in Fun, 5822K
- geany-1.23-i486, in Document, 822K
- geany_DEV-1.23-i486, in Document, 96K
- geany_DOC-1.23-i486, in Document, 1085K
- geany_NLS-1.23-i486, in Document, 1248K
- intltool-0.50.2-i486, in BuildingBlock, 33K
- intltool_DEV-0.50.2-i486, in BuildingBlock, 36K
- intltool_DOC-0.50.2-i486, in BuildingBlock, 42K
- leafpad-0.8.18.1-i486, in Document, 33K
- leafpad_NLS-0.8.18.1-i486, in Document, 42K
- mplayer-svn10032013-i486, in Multimedia, 3733K
- mplayer_DOC-svn10032013-i486, in Multimedia, 105K
- pkg-config-0.28-i486, in BuildingBlock, 139K
- pkg-config_DEV-0.28-i486, in BuildingBlock, 31K
- pkg-config_DOC-0.28-i486, in BuildingBlock, 13K
- tixati-1.94, in Internet, 15M

NOTE: If any wary users are looking for the most recent firefox that'll work in Wary - that is Firefox-17esr ... The version in the Akita repo already has ghostery, adblock plus, betterprivacy, flashblock and more ...

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PostPosted: Mon 18 Mar 2013, 20:06    Post subject:  

GTK1 apps added to akita repo (click 'Update' in PPM):

- Amaya-8.52, in Internet, 1641K ( a web browser /editor)
- gentoo-0.11.57, in Filesystem, 211K (dual pane file manager)
- gentoo_NLS-0.11.57, in Filesystem, 200K
- libimlib-1.9-i486, in BuildingBlock, 119K

I'd like to add more gtk1 apps, but can find any (i did find PULP, and might rip some out of there...) I'm looking for a good gtk1 ROX, mtpaint, burning prog, whatever...

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PostPosted: Tue 19 Mar 2013, 21:35    Post subject:  

I'd really like to ditch ROX in favor of PCManFM...can I do that? Will my machine run much slower?
I think it could be a better user-friendly file manager for those who want a "windows like" experience...
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PostPosted: Wed 20 Mar 2013, 05:02    Post subject:  

slimhunter wrote:
I'd really like to ditch ROX in favor of PCManFM...can I do that? Will my machine run much slower?
I think it could be a better user-friendly file manager for those who want a "windows like" experience...

ROX is fantastic once you learn a few keyboard shortcuts for various features (note in akita, you can change the ROX hotkeys by highlighting a menu and simply pressing what u want)..

But anyway, Akita has the following file managers in the repo (all in 'Filesystem' category):

4pane, emelfm2, gentoo, qtfm, spacefm, xfe, thunar and xplorer ...

SpaceFM is based on PCManFM, and is very user friendly, and very good, customisable etc... None of them will be slow on your PC..

slimhunter, if you are using the ROX desktop (aka 'pinboard', standard puppy desktop icons, disabled in akita by default) you can right click on the 'file' desktop icon, then go to 'Edit Item' and change the command it will run from rox to whatever else you like...

EDIT: Also Wbar is in the Akita repo, that is a good alternative to the ROX desktop - i keep forgetting to add it to Akitas default setup, which I will *prob* do for the next release. It'll only add like 50kb, akita already has imlib2...

BTW, if anyone can recommend another file manager, I'll happily add them to the akita repo..

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PostPosted: Wed 20 Mar 2013, 17:36    Post subject:  

Added to akita repo:

http://akita.scottjarvis.com/pekwm-0.1.16-i486.pet (200kb)
http://akita.scottjarvis.com/pekwm_DOC-0.1.16-i486.pet (8kb)
http://akita.scottjarvis.com/pekwm-themes-0.01.pet (400kb)

I have compiled & modified pekwm-0.1.16-i486.pet, it includes a custom pinstall and custom pekwm menu and it's preconfigured to generate a puppy menu, in an 'Applications' sub menu.. and the pinstall script will do this for you on first install (thanks to aragon)..

This build had everything enabled - supports xinerama, all img types, etc ..

..............

I also created a new build script for buildpet which will build the above packages, including the custom menus and pinstall scripts...

Also... The next akita will have WMSwitcher 0.20 - which will have added support for pekwm (akitas already has a custom version that supports all WMs in the akita repo) ..

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PostPosted: Wed 20 Mar 2013, 21:59    Post subject: Re: Correcting my mixup
Subject description: No sound under Akita 14
 

sc0ttman wrote:


The sound levels aren't being saved after rebooting either. Royal pain in the tuckus.

Ah ok, I see.. I will take a look and see if I can make any improvement/hacks/workarounds!
...............

Packages added to Akita repo (now in PPM - click the 'Update' button):

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- firefox-17esr-akita, in Internet, 25M


NOTE: If any wary users are looking for the most recent firefox that'll work in Wary - that is Firefox-17esr ... The version in the Akita repo already has ghostery, adblock plus, betterprivacy, flashblock and more ...[/quote]


Thanks for upgrading Firefox. FF-13 ran very choppy on the TUV4X. It's much smoother now. Chrome 7 won't let me go to Yahoo's Login. I prefer Iron to Chrome. I've been running Lucid 5.2.8 on a separate partition on this machine with Iron 10. Very stable and runs very smoothly on this old machine. You many want to add Iron 10 to your browser installation suite. Seems to work better than Chrome 7 on old machines especially when streaming video like YouTube.
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