Puppy Linux Discussion Forum

[BarryK]

[LateAdopter]

Hello BarryK

I see from your blog that you a planning to compile 3.8 with an updated configuration.

If possible could you also configure CPUID and MSR kernel modules in your DOTconfig, please?

Thanks.

[pemasu]

Barry. 3.8 kernel. For enabling brcmsmac driver you need to add bcma support as module and also under wireless, the bcma support for broadcom, then you will see brcmsmac as tickable option.
Proprietary wl.ko though is the only supporting driver for many chips. brcmsmac and brcmfmac does not cover them all.

New wireless realtek driver rtl8723ae.ko was in your 3.8 rc kernel. It needs 2 supporting firmwares. I cant show modinfo for the driver (not in 3.8 kernel puppy now), but the attached firmwares should be the right ones.
They can be placed to the all-firmware/rtlwifi folder....if you wish. And according firmware.dep editing. There are already in linux world posts about need for that driver and questions how to get it to work with chips which needs it. So...seems reasonable to include the firmwares also.

[pemasu]

3.8 kernel woes continues. rtl8192de.ko module has needed firmware included but firmware.dep misses the definition.
With above new rtl8723ae.ko firmware included the row changes from:
rtlwifi:rtl8192ce.ko,rtl8192cu.ko,rtl8192se.ko,r8712u.ko
to:
rtlwifi:rtl8192ce.ko,rtl8192cu.ko,rtl8192de.ko,rtl8192se.ko,r8712u.ko,rtl8723ae.ko

[don570]

I have warned Barry Kauler that Abispell dictionaries don't work in
Precise (as far as I can tell).

I did a test in Slacko and they did work!! Here's the test...

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=685566#685566

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[OscarTalks]

Regarding Multiple Sound Card Wizard as mentioned in BarryK's blog.

Is the issue of the random allocation of index numbers at each boot now fixed?

I have several multiple sound card computers here and from my observations this wizard would change the default from index 0 to index 1, but this does not lock things down if the allocation of index numbers to the different detected devices at each boot is random.

Does MSCW now write anything to /ect/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf because normally I have to edit that file manually to resolve this issue?

[01micko]

[Sage]

The pre-occupation with multiple sound cards seriously misdirects the valuable intellectual challenges facing our developers. Probably count the number of folks who need this facility on one finger (no, not that finger, madam!). Those confronting conflicts with onboard sound have merely to write out the onboard unit in BIOS, assuming they aren't using a cr*p proprietary BIOS on an even more cr*ppy Intel board. [But even these can be over-ridden using a serious BIOS interception utility.]
Those mounting two independent sound cards might try making one of them an old ISA card and using an earlier Puppy variant that has been extensively worked over such as those by TaZoc, ttuuxx and johnbiles.
Generations ago, and also on another Forum that I moderated, I advocated slicing the Vcc line of troublesome onboard sound chips with a scalpel - still and equally valid solution.
Once we can stop people buying Intel and put that worthless organisation into liquidation, many of the world's IT problems will cease. It might also achieve that other most desirable goal of closing down the devil's OS.

[OscarTalks]

Sage,

Sorry, but I don't agree with your assertion that resolving multiple sound card issues is not important.

I often see people on here reporting problems of loss of sound and I believe this may be one of the causes.

Other devices such as modems get detected as sound cards. Common hardware such as webcams plugged into USB ports also becomes detected as additional sound cards on the system in many cases. The percentage of computers which will have more than one is not as small as you suggest.

For those of us who do install additional PCI or USB sound cards because we want the functionality of more than one audio input and output (in order to be able to route audio to and from different places), it would defeat the object to disable one of those cards in the BIOS. The Operating System should be able to detect the sound cards and handle them properly and consistently and I thank those who work to ensure that this is the case in Puppy.

[Sage]

If modems, webcams & co. are detected as sound cards that's an error of detection suggesting an appropriate remedy.
Folks wanting to run two or more sound cards from one PC, and I disagree - it must be an infinitessimal number, would be better advised running two or more old boxes, especially to avoid routing even more cables to other rooms, presuming they're not listening to jazz in one ear and pop in the other. Messing with unnecessary complications in SW is, as I said, severely distracting. Sound, per se, is not intrinsically difficult to achieve on any old junk. Indeed, broken record, the best results can be had from a board with an ISA slot and a genuine SB128. There are also a plethora of modern digital sound devices available from discrete separates and, most probably, your own telly. Most municipal dumps harbour entirely adequate hi-fi boxes.
It is important to define clearly what objectives are required to be met. Suggesting that there are two separate and, implicitly, different sound generators running off one machine in the same room is just silly. Anyone so severely constrained can PM me and I'll send them an old board, gratis.

[zigbert]

pMusic 3.2.0 with basic libav support - ffmpeg is still the recommended choice.

Libav will not return stream info as bitrate, samplerate, channels...


Sigmund

[rodin.s]

It's not very important but will report anyway. I've been translating report-video and noticed this thing. I have two videocards - one of them is built-in and this one shown in the report but the other one is in use and it's driver is shown:

[ilanrab]

[rerwin]

Barry,
I have resolved all of the remaining issues with frisbee and network_tray. So, they are ready for consideration for the beta.
frisbee: http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=684092#684092
network_tray: http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=684694#684694
The tray icons look like the standard network_tray icons but with subtle indications of link type. But I would like to mention some things.

My conclusion and report of frisbee's dependence on the wag_profiles package are incorrect. Because wag-profiles.sh was in the initial beta package from which frisbee is derived, I assumed it was needed. But it was there because it was modified to use dhcpcd-dropwait, which was also there. Therefore, the modified wag-profiles.sh can be restored into the net_setup package. One consideration, though, is that wag-profiles.sh gets updated to add entries for new wireless drivers; keeping it separate would avoid also updating the otherwise unchanged net_setup package. I have updated my frisbee-kit tarball with a recombined net_setup package, so there is one less package for users/testers/developers to install.

The newest network_tray package seems to work reliably. However, now that I have "integrated" the tray icon set, the "-eth" set is no longer needed. I would like to remove the -eth set from the code and perhaps experiment with an implementation that does not require the set of signals from the dhcpcd hooks. Now that I have completed frisbee integration, I feel I can consider some improvements.
Richard

[Sage]

I well understand that some folks have sound card issues, ilanrab. You do not seem to understand that it's not a good idea to be running laptops/Dell/Intel (perhaps with 'doze as well?). You cannot squeeze more than one sound card into any laptop I've ever seen. If the internal proprietary laptop components are telling there's more than one sound card - there isn't!. That is an OS issue. Laptops are not intended to be wired externally to multiple rooms - that's crazy. You can have an old box for free - find them in skips at the roadside/dump - chances are they'll all do sound. First rule for Linux - delete the devil's OS unless you're a hobbyist interested in pushing boundaries. HW is so cheap or cheaper that there is NO POINT, even for impecunious students and less fortunate nations to be running multiple sound cards. I've personally sent dozens of working boxes with sound to Africa via our local charities - if they want more so they can run sound in several rooms, they have only to ask. Of course, none of those machines have the ultimate rogue OS loaded, only Linux. Education is the answer, as Tony Blair pointed out. We've got a mission to re-educate uniformed and brainwashed folks from propping up the DWIntel cartel (as well as other evil capitalist crooks eg in banking, meat trading, fizzy drinks purveying, add-your-example-here).