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Best way to backup / sync my Save file?
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PostPosted: Tue 12 Feb 2013, 15:38    Post subject:  Best way to backup / sync my Save file?
Subject description: Used with Slacko live CD in multiple machines.
 

I am running puppy slacko 5.3 as live CD on multiple machines. I am saving session data on a 4gb flash. There are only 3 files on that flash drive. Could someone point me to a description of how to save or sync these files on another medium, windows machine, other flash drive, (what ever is best) for the future certain loss or damage of the operating flash drive. It isn't necessary they are save or synced daily but something other than start from 0 again.

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PostPosted: Tue 12 Feb 2013, 15:49    Post subject:  

Save file, right? How big and which extension?

I usually boot live and move it wherever I want.

What I don't do is try'n move it while she's running..
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PostPosted: Tue 12 Feb 2013, 16:02    Post subject:  

I'm not sure, but I think there shouldn't be a problem if you simply copy the pupsave to a different location (not moving it), even while Puppy is running. That way, you could set up a script that simply makes a backup of the pupsave, say, once a day/week/etc., assuming you're not using a flash drive for the backup location.

(I don't know how to set up such a script (through cron?), if that's what you'd want to do, but someone else here should know. Embarassed If you want to backup the pupsave by simply copying the file manually, though, you should be able to.)

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PostPosted: Tue 12 Feb 2013, 16:20    Post subject:  

Copy's Embarassed what I meant.
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PostPosted: Tue 12 Feb 2013, 16:26    Post subject:  

Yeah; I was just repeating your warning not to move the pupsave, particularly while it's in use. Smile
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PostPosted: Tue 12 Feb 2013, 17:29    Post subject:  

It could be a problem maybe if it saves each 30 minutes
and one copy at that time but I just wild guess.
To move that could break things Smile

I usually rename it because some puppy search and find them.
So lupudave.3fs instead of lupusave.3fs but I copy first and rename
after it really is there. Smile

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PostPosted: Tue 12 Feb 2013, 17:34    Post subject: Save File Backup  

I copied the save file while the session was in progress and that may be the problem. I later copied it back into a flash drive replacing the less complete save file that was there and I got all kind of warnings on the next boot. The boot was stopped. Didn't know if it was damaged or needed all three files to be copied at once for it to fit together. I think I'll just try cloning the entire flash to a backup at the end of the session and everything is closed.
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PostPosted: Tue 12 Feb 2013, 18:26    Post subject:  

BCS- what are the names of these three files?
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PostPosted: Tue 12 Feb 2013, 18:37    Post subject: Save File Backup  

fsckme.flg
puppy-slacko-5.3.sfs
slackosave.2fs

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PostPosted: Tue 12 Feb 2013, 19:42    Post subject:  

This one >> fsckme.flg doesn't matter. It's the result of corruption or a previous unclean shutdown. No copy.

This >> slackosave.2fs.. is your actual savefile. It gets copied.

This guy >> puppy-slacko-5.3.sfs you OK'd to copy on to speed boot. Copied.

I know it's a flash drive and what they say about writes..

Is this the reason you steered away from an ext3 save?

You can copy these elsewhere though I'd do so during a: puppy pfix=ram boot.

If to an NTFS partition, make sure it's defragged first.
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PostPosted: Tue 12 Feb 2013, 19:49    Post subject: Save File Backup  

I guess what I want is to double save the sessions file, on the normal flash and somewhere else for use if the original flash gets lost or trashed. I think I understood you last answer but does the session need to be closed out before the save file is copied? And since you mentioned that the fskme file is unnecessary can I delete it now? I think I had an unclean shutdown on a session.

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PostPosted: Tue 12 Feb 2013, 20:01    Post subject:  

Yeah, I mean, I keep one in a subfolder, below /home.. one I have saved off to flash drive. About "closing out the session", it's like work'n on a car.. I don't wanna do it while it's running. Changing a tire is one thing, changing oil or coolant, quite another. If you're gonna ask the system to work on itself, do so from the outside. But hey, you do what you want.

Deleting that file? Sure. You could probably even convert your ext2 save to a Shocked THREE!
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PostPosted: Tue 12 Feb 2013, 20:21    Post subject: Save File Backup  

Thanks for the answers, I've got a plan now. Nothing like changing oil with the engine running! The reason I went with ext 2 is because I thought I might use encryption but then decided not to do it. The options setting it up sort of leaned toward ext2 for the undecided.

Anyway-thanks a lot.
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PostPosted: Fri 22 Feb 2013, 23:11    Post subject: Save file backup  

Is there a reason why you can't just backup to a second flash drive?

I backup to a flash drive that is formatted ext3, and to avoid any problems, I backup by booting from a Live CD with pfix=ram so that the save file on the hard drive is not in use. Since I only do at most one backup a day, I don't see any reason to worry about wearing out the flash drive.
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PostPosted: Sat 23 Feb 2013, 06:05    Post subject:  

Perhaps it might be useful to know that when booted from the live CD puppy will look for all this versions save files on all the drives it can access at boot and then give you a choice which one you load.

Now if you copy it onto hard drive in the computer in the root directory ( /* )as I did , and then boot from the live disk , it will find and use that .when you close it will already be saved and is very quick to boot and to close . No saving is necessary if it is on the hard drive . It has been done

I do this and copy my save file once a week to the usb stick for backup and the other files are there should I wish to boot from the stick

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