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How do I backup a full install?
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tytower

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PostPosted: Thu 31 Jan 2013, 21:02    Post_subject:  

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PostPosted: Thu 31 Jan 2013, 21:17    Post_subject:  

Not worth the effort
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PostPosted: Thu 31 Jan 2013, 21:19    Post_subject:  

Nagging about it is a wastes of hard drive space too.

But if you have a save file ITS NOT A FULL INSTALL Very Happy

Your having trouble. Its not working like it should.

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PostPosted: Thu 31 Jan 2013, 21:21    Post_subject:  

tytower wrote:
Amgine wrote:
No that is not a full install. See the attachment. ...
The path you show /mnt/home takes me back to my Kubuntu partition. Do you have your hard drive partitioned?

Also: With a full install Puppy does not ask to save when you shut down.

No it doesn't but the savefile has been updated on the hard drive and a message pops up as you shut down to say this is the case .
The save file is there though and is always used

I have said go try it yourself . Something has changed that you are not aware of I think.


Excuse me, I don't need to go try it for myself, I know what is going on your thinking is messed up.

I have been using the full install for a week now, I know what I am talking about.

You should listen and stop talking. You might learn something.

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Amgine


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PostPosted: Thu 31 Jan 2013, 21:26    Post_subject:  

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Frugal or Full Installation

This page explains the differences between Frugal and Full installation.

Full Installation
In a Full installation the linux directory structure takes up a whole drive partition. The contents from Puppy Linux's BaseSFS are extracted to the linux directory structure. All subsequent software installations, file edits and additions are made directly to the partition's file system. The directory structure is stored as it appears in the file manager or listed by a terminal emulator.


Frugal Installation
A frugal installation involves using compressed 'filesystem-within-a-file/s' without expanding them. These files are,

When first run:

the Puppy Linux loads the BaseSFS (also known as PupSfs) a Sfs file containing Linux file system and directory structure (RootFS) (read only) eg. lupu_528.sfs


Additional files:

the Puppy 'save file' containing settings, additional software, modifications etc. (read/write) eg. lupusave-mysave.2fs
additional software Sfs files (read only) eg. Gimp_2.7.3_528.sfs



On start-up these file-systems are super-imposed upon each other so that they appear merged. Additional files and alterations are written to the Puppy Save File (if within the Linux directory structure). The directory structure viewed in a file manager or listed by a terminal emulator is actually contained within these compressed files.
For more information see How Puppy works.


Comparsion

Full Frugal (not in RAM) Frugal (copied to RAM)
Drive partition required Yes No No
Installation directory Requires a drive partition Almost any directory Almost any directory
Speed Medium Likely to be slower Faster
Installation file system Linux Type FAT, NTFS, Linux Type FAT, NTFS, Linux Type
Installation Protection RootFS writable with root user access BaseSfs Read only BaseSfs Read only
Pup SaveFile No, directly accesses RootFS Yes, saved directly to disk Yes, in RAM (saved to disk on request/reboot)
Load/Unload SFS files Harder Easy Easy


Also see
How to Add SFS to Full Installation

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CategoryInstallation


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How to Create a Full Installation on an Internal Hard Disk Drive (H.D.D.)

Ensure that the target installation partition has ≥350MB free space available
Create a LiveDVD or LiveUSB
Start the target computer with the LiveDVD/USB: if the computer does not start/boot from the LiveDVD it will be necessary to either access a boot menu or the B.I.O.S. so that the computer is instructed to boot with the optical drive or U.S.B. flash memory drive and not any other type of drive; restarting will be necessary in conjunction with using the correct key(s) (see Appendix below);
Configure the keyboard, locale & timezone settings {one is offered to do this either during start-up or immediately after}
Prepare the H.D.D. (optional) using Menu > System > GParted; after any modifications re-start the computer without saving any changes and with the LiveDVD/USB connected
Install to H.D.D. using Menu > System > Puppy Universal Installer
Remove the LiveDVD/USB and re-start the computer without saving


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ASZm1aHDh_k
http://www.mygnulinux.com/?p=385
http://www.arsgeek.com/2006/12/05/installing-puppy-linux-to-your-hard-drive/
http://www.ph-islands.net/pupinstall/winxp.php


Appendix - Setting the correct boot sequence

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labtestproject.com
wikihow.com



Also on the Wiki
How to Create a Frugal Installation on an Internal or External Hard Disk Drive (H.D.D.)
Full or Frugal installation


Categories
CategoryInstallation


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Link http://puppylinux.org/wikka/InstallationFrugal

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PostPosted: Fri 01 Feb 2013, 00:14    Post_subject:  

Not worth the effort
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Amgine


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PostPosted: Fri 01 Feb 2013, 00:27    Post_subject:  

If you boot from CD It is not a Full install

You did not read any of my links or quotes, READ

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PostPosted: Fri 01 Feb 2013, 00:29    Post_subject:  

tytower wrote:
OK I think you can have it from there .
I suggest you reread my first post in this thread.
Especially the bit I have now been forced to highlite that I boot from the CD each time .

Also I doubt you even looked at the screenshot of my files supplied so you could see I did a full install
Twerp



Hummmmm

Take your CD out and reboot your computer...

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