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playdayz


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PostPosted: Wed 30 Jan 2013, 18:37    Post subject:  

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gnumeric 1.12 complete ( all plugins ) with functional assistance!

Credit to BigPup with recognizing the importance of Functional Assistance to Puppy and doing the initial work on it.
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italianman_2112

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PostPosted: Wed 30 Jan 2013, 20:33    Post subject: How To Change Desktops Mate/Gnome/Cinnamon/ Etc  

Hi everybody, I hope I am doing this right. I have been using puppy for a long time, and really liked XFCE on 528. I am trying out Lxpup 12.12 and LOVE IT ! holy cow is the LXDE smooth on this pup. I am wondering how to switch to gnome, mate etc ? Want to try chromium and having trouble with that as well. Thank you for your time Smile Chris
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James C


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PostPosted: Thu 31 Jan 2013, 04:17    Post subject:  

Just did a version of Lxpup with the latest k-3.2.37 kernel (non-pae) . My older hardware just doesn't like PAE. Smile


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Linux puppypc20748 3.2.37_12.12 #1 SMP Thu Jan 31 01:25:17 CST 2013 i686 athlon i386 GNU/Linux
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Volhout


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PostPosted: Thu 31 Jan 2013, 07:59    Post subject: Test 1212 on Dell lattitude 6430  

Good news,

Initial bootupt at correct resolution, wireless works, running from USB stick made with Pendrive Linux (select Puppy Lucid).

Tried live boot of 2 SFS's (GIMP and OPERA) got a freeze, but second try it worked fine. Cannot duplicate.

Nice crisp look and feel on this modern machine.

Will try to install the help fixes...

edit: install on a eeePC starts fine. minor practical problem: shutdown icon in bottom left is outside window (screen size 1024x600)...
Maybe an idea to remove one of the other icons, to make sure shutdown icon is visible.
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Jejy69


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PostPosted: Thu 31 Jan 2013, 10:25    Post subject:  

Hello !

@playdayz, sorry, I did not know there were credits for it. I was totally unaware of any work about it from BigPup. Neutral Question

@italianman_2112, Welcome ! Smile
I'm sorry, I removed Gnome ( causes a lot of instability ).
To change Desktop, first log out, and type command to start
Xfce: xwin xfce4-session
Mate: xwin mate-session
Kde: xwin startkde
Lxde: xwin startlxde
Trinity: xwin startkde ( You must choose between Kde or Trinity, since they have the same session launcher Confused )

What are the problems with Chromium ?
For the next release, I added a WM switcher-like. It will be useless to know commands. Wink

@James C, nice work ! I will use a non Pae kernel for the next release Wink .

@Volhout, Nice news Very Happy !
To change the launcher's position, you can simply add a 'space' applet after the launcher, and increase is size.

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natgab


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PostPosted: Fri 01 Feb 2013, 05:51    Post subject: Freedom from ROX !!! I love Lxpup.  

Hi Jerome !

I love Lxpup! I have used other Puppys before, but would always go back to something like Ubuntu because ROX would always drive me crazy. So far I really like Lxpup, same normal desktop as the big boys but with the speed of a Puppy.

I just have a question about Lxpup:

Lxpup Control Center acts kind of flaky with my mouse / trackpoint. If I double click something like software button, it will give me 3 or 4 windows. No matter how gently I press the button. It does not do this on the desktop if I click on a file or if I click on the file manager or menus. This works normal with a double click. I tested it with a USB mouse in case it was the trackpoint.

Another question, how can you test out the other DEs like GNOME and Cinnamon? Are these only in the newer PAE version?

I will go and install it to my laptop and continue to test it. I hope I can be of help in letting you know how it works on Thinkpads. So far it seems to act like regular retro Precise, no WiFi or Xorg problems. Software works with the exception of Firefox 16 not wanting to install. But since I was able to get my FF extension on SeaMonkey I am happy. Xmarks syncronizing my bookmarks keeps me sane. Very Happy

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playdayz


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PostPosted: Fri 01 Feb 2013, 16:02    Post subject:  

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@playdayz, sorry, I did not know there were credits for it. I was totally unaware of any work about it from BigPup.

I was just being silly Jejy. I love the phrase "Functional Assistance." A couple of years ago no Puppies had Working Help and BigPup led the movement to get it working in Lucid 5.2.8-005.
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inoxidabile


Joined: 13 Sep 2008
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PostPosted: Sat 02 Feb 2013, 13:28    Post subject:  

Hi evrybody!

I'm going on in LxPup test (on a pc better than the previous one Smile ) and I've seen a strange behavior.
I inserted an USB key and I looked at ist content with PCman and after this I unmounted it clkicking on the little arrow at the left, near the USB's name.
The window close suddenly... is it normal?

An other thing: I followed the instructions of Jejy69 about changing of desktop.
So, I logged out and I tried as his indication but it remained logged out and any new session started.

However, I still think that LxPup is great and I agree with the idea of Volhout (it would make Lubuntu completely obsolete .... )
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Jejy69


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PostPosted: Sat 02 Feb 2013, 18:26    Post subject:  

Hello !

Welcome natgab Very Happy ,

What a strange problem! Thanks for your report, maybe a Python issue ? I'll see that ( it's a python software ).
Quote:

Another question, how can you test out the other DEs like GNOME and Cinnamon? Are these only in the newer PAE version?

I'm sorry, but for now, I removed Gnome and Cinnamon, simply because they are unstable and I'm afraid of the consequences for the user. I will perhaps stable packages later.
The next version will have a kernel without PAE, more people will use it! Smile

Thanks you !

( PS: Who is the character on your avatar, I've seen this character, but I can not remind me, I can not stop to think but I can not find ... Mr. Green )

playdayz,

Ok, "Functional Assistance" is an pompous expression, I used the same expression.

inoxidabile, thanks for your report !
Unfortunately, I have not been able to fix this bug... Crying or Very sad

About sessions, which session did you start ? Gnome/Cinnamon ? They are not working correctly...


For the next release, Will good news, Video/Music/Picture THUMBNAILS !
With Rhythmbox 2.95, Totem 3.4.3, Gthumb 3.0.1, LibreOffice 3.6.5 !
And a session switcher !
I changes ALL desktop icons, cool skin !
I installed ALL plugins to play ALL multimedia files !
Full KDE 4.9.5 with effects and many KDE apps !
Xfce 4.10 with Thunar 1.5.3 !

It will be good I hope ! Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sat 02 Feb 2013, 21:04    Post subject:  

My avatar is Kiki from the anime Kikis Delivery Service. Lxpup Control Center works a little better if I use the Menu to turn it on. I was able to make Firefox work using the download from your page. It worked better than using the FF in Puppy Package Manager.

I also downloaded GIMP from your webpage, it works fine. But if you look at my picture, it got installed to the Utilites menu and not the Graphics menu. I also tried installing VLC from your page but it did not work. I have not tried VLC version from the Puppy Package Manager. I like the extra audio & subtitle control it has over GNOME player.

I am really enjoying Lxpup on my old Thinkpad laptop. My HD (expensive 1.8" iPod size) is failing and won't let me install a OS. So now I can boot from my USB and just use the HD as storage. Very Happy


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inoxidabile


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PostPosted: Sun 03 Feb 2013, 04:10    Post subject:  

Hi Jejy69,
Thanks for reply!
In my opinion it's not a great bug, after it's defined as known behavior and not a wrong operation by my side Smile
Coming back to switching session, I simply tried all the types You listed in Your post.
So, I don't know if I must do something before/after that commands, now I can only say that in a live mode and executing the indicated steps, nothing happens and any DE doesn't start. Sad
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PostPosted: Sun 03 Feb 2013, 08:15    Post subject:  

Hello !

natgab,
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My avatar is Kiki from the anime Kikis Delivery Service.

That's it! Thank you! Laughing
it on. I was able to make Firefox work using the download from your page. It worked better than using the FF in Puppy Package Manager. [/quote]

This bugs'll be fixed in the next version, maybe I'll release it today for a preview. Smile

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I also downloaded GIMP from your webpage, it works fine. But if you look at my picture, it got installed to the Utilites menu and not the Graphics menu. I also tried installing VLC from your page but it did not work. I have not tried VLC version from the Puppy Package Manager. I like the extra audio & subtitle control it has over GNOME player.

It'll be fixed too, it's a problem with menu entries. I improved the menu, and I arranged entries.
I think I will replace Totem with VLC 2.0.5. As you said, extra audio & subtitle control is nice in VLC. Wink

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Coming back to switching session, I simply tried all the types You listed in Your post.
So, I don't know if I must do something before/after that commands, now I can only say that in a live mode and executing the indicated steps, nothing happens and any DE doesn't start

Strange thing... Could you exec the command in a terminal ?
For example, install XFCE sfs, and type "xfce4-session" in a terminal, what is the result ?

Thanks you all to make lxpup better ! Very Happy

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PostPosted: Sun 03 Feb 2013, 09:35    Post subject:  

Embarassed
I can understand from You answer that the others destop manager have to be installed before and they aren't included... Embarassed
However, since I tried also typing only xwin and nothing else, I thought that the session restart but... nothing... Confused hmm... I must check it again! Smile
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PostPosted: Sun 03 Feb 2013, 09:53    Post subject:  

Ups, sorry indeed, you must install the sfs first. The integration is not possible, the iso becomes gigantic. Confused
To go back to LXDE ( default desktop ), it's "xwin startlxde".

Good luck, Smile

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playdayz


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PostPosted: Sun 03 Feb 2013, 13:24    Post subject:  

Possible bug report:
I think the CPU Frequency Scaling tool might not be working right in 12.12. It doesn't seem to find the drivers--the list looks more like /root. The drivers are actually in /lib/modules/3.2.29/kernel/drivers/cpufreq. wcpufreq was tazoc's program. I will notify him.

it seems to work if one opens a terminal in /lib/modules/3.2.29/kernel/drivers/cpufreq and runs wcpufreq from there.
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