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Upup Precise 3.7.2 with kernel 3.7.2, no pae
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pemasu


Joined: 08 Jul 2009
Posts: 5463
Location: Finland

PostPosted: Mon 21 Jan 2013, 11:04    Post subject:  

LateAdopter. Ok. I edited my post. the upload has been broken. It was only about 7 Mb when the original vlc pet was 19 Mb. This vlc is Ubuntu original with all needed libs.

There is also Precise Puppy compiled version which is only 5 Mb in size. But it has worked just fine for me. The size difference of Ubuntu canonical version and Precise Puppy compiled is remarkable.

http://www.smokey01.com/pemasu/pet_packages-upup/vlc-2.0.3-precise.pet

Thanks Raffy of your feedback with wireless.

Last edited by pemasu on Mon 21 Jan 2013, 11:16; edited 1 time in total
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artsown

Joined: 12 Sep 2012
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PostPosted: Mon 21 Jan 2013, 11:12    Post subject:  

Concerning lack of wireless, I was reminded of the power
management bug in some 3.X kernels that makes wireless
unreliable with some hardware. So I played with booting
with acpi=off and also tried disabling acpid (and then
loading the rt2500pci driver). Nothing I try has any effect.

Also, it's peculiar that when I try ndiswrapper and my
Windows .inf and driver I see a error message claiming
there is no ndiswrapper. A file search certainly finds all
kinds of ndiswrapper stuff in the file system. So what gives
here?

Searching the internet hasn't turned up any clues so far
either.

Art
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pemasu


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PostPosted: Mon 21 Jan 2013, 11:18    Post subject:  

Artsown. There is no ndiswrapper for this kernel. I couldnt get it to compile. I got errors which I couldnt resolve. I havent much tried again though.

The error message has been different than in this fix:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=671311#671311

And I suppose you have tried that one also.
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artsown

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PostPosted: Mon 21 Jan 2013, 11:41    Post subject:  

pemasu, if you mean:

iwconfig wlan0 power off

that simply generates a error message stating that
there is no such module as wlan0

Which makes sense since no working wireless driver
means no wlan0 I suppose.

Art
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pemasu


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PostPosted: Mon 21 Jan 2013, 11:48    Post subject:  

Artsown. Yeah. You are right. My stupidity. Anyway...I am clueless atm.
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pemasu


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PostPosted: Tue 22 Jan 2013, 15:37    Post subject:  

I did download latest svn of ndiswrapper:
svn co co https://ndiswrapper.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/ndiswrapper/trunk/ndiswrapper ndiswrapper-svn

And it compiled just fine. Maybe my previously used source was broken by heavy usage...or this latest just compiled and the previous one didnt.

Anyway.....here is ndiswrapper kernel module driver.
ndiswrapper-k3.7.2-precise.pet
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artsown

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PostPosted: Tue 22 Jan 2013, 19:47    Post subject:  

pemasu, ndiswrapper allowed me to get a connection using frisbee.

At least I managed to discover that wlan0 power management is off by
default using this kernel. And I was able to do some download speed
testing to verify that wireless performance seems solid and reliable. I
was curious to know if the 3.7.2 kernel has the wireless power management
bug, and it does not seem to.

However, I won't be using 3.7.2 with a wireless connection since the
use of the Windows driver gives me too many annoying problems.

Art
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artsown

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PostPosted: Wed 23 Jan 2013, 16:23    Post subject:  

I decided to raise a issue here in the hope of getting the attention of
appropriate developers. If there's a more appropriate location on the
forum please let me know.

There's a very serious flaw in Barry's simple network setup and also
the more complicated network setup concerning wireless. Only a small
number of available networks are displayed for selection and they are
not ordered according to signal strength. It's likely that the user's
network has the strongest signal but it may not be presented for
selection. I noticed that Frisbee does order them according to signal
strength as they should be.

Art
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charlie6

Joined: 30 Jun 2008
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Location: South of Belgium

PostPosted: Fri 25 Jan 2013, 07:48    Post subject: nice to have: a kind of Xorg-High.pet ...:-)  

Hi Pemasu,
yeah...! running with the intel_drv.so xorg driver on 945G video controller (Dell 620 laptop)...
glxgears report less than 300 frames in 5 seconds --> Shocked -->Sad !

It would be nice to have a kind of Xorg-High.pet (as it is already the case for dPup-Exprimo-3.6.2 --> on the same Dell 620 glxgears rates more than 3000 frames in 5 sec ...!! yesss...-three-thou-sands- Shocked )

i have installed Barry's Precise mesa-8.03.pet ...but results are better ... without it Surprised ...! (last edited: Embarassed oops....uPup-Precise already has mesa-8.04 in it ...)

thanks anyway !
Charlie
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pemasu


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PostPosted: Fri 25 Jan 2013, 17:13    Post subject:  

Charlie6. I think Precise Puppy and so....also Upup Precise has everything included.

This post might help you get better response with glxgears:
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=649457#649457
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charlie6

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PostPosted: Sat 26 Jan 2013, 04:04    Post subject:  

Pemasu ...Thanks ...it indeed helps Smile
Quote:
This post might help you get better response with glxgears:
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=649457#649457


here on intel 82845G Brookdale video chip get ca. 1300 frames in 5 sec --> Smile

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Fabio T

Joined: 31 Aug 2007
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Location: Italy

PostPosted: Sat 26 Jan 2013, 06:18    Post subject:  

On INTEL HD4000 video chip :

34943 frames in 5.0 seconds = 6988.600 FPS
34950 frames in 5.0 seconds = 6989.870 FPS
34983 frames in 5.0 seconds = 6996.540 FPS
34734 frames in 5.0 seconds = 6945.522 FPS
34855 frames in 5.0 seconds = 6970.955 FPS

Wow!
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Billtoo


Joined: 07 Apr 2009
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Location: Ontario Canada

PostPosted: Sat 26 Jan 2013, 15:13    Post subject: Upup Precise 3.7.2 with kernel 3.7.2, no pae
Subject description: vlc-2.0.5
 

@pemasu

I compiled and made a vlc 2.0.5 pet in upup precise 3.7.2, I used the
same method as last summer for vlc 2.0.3.
It'll need the dvb firmware if you still have that pet and qt-4.8.2.
It works on this pc with the ati driver, will likely need the proprietary nvidia driver but may work with the nouveau driver (haven't tested that)
Anyhow, here's the link if you'd like to test it:

http://www.datafilehost.com/download-e450a73f.html
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pemasu


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PostPosted: Sat 26 Jan 2013, 18:54    Post subject:  

Billtoo. Thanks. Your vlc-2.0.5 works fine. Subtitles and dvb-c tuning works. Tv channels plays fine. I have several dvb firmware pets. Including the one I think you meant.

All my usual video test formats and files played fine.

I stripped your vlc pet from 12 Mb to 5.2 Mb and then I uploaded it with the same name to the upup repo.

Thanks.
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James C


Joined: 26 Mar 2009
Posts: 5678
Location: Kentucky

PostPosted: Sun 27 Jan 2013, 01:43    Post subject:  

# report-video
VIDEO REPORT: Upup Precise, version 3.7.2

Chip description:
oem: Copyright 1998 TRIDENT MICROSYSTEMS INC.

Requested by /etc/X11/xorg.conf:
Depth (bits, or planes): 16
Modules requested to be loaded: dbe
Drivers requested to be loaded: vesa

Probing Xorg startup log file (/var/log/Xorg.0.log):
Driver loaded (and currently in use): vesa
Loaded modules: dbe ddc dri dri2 extmod fb glx int10 kbd mouse record shadow vbe

Actual rendering on monitor:
Resolution: 1024x768 pixels (321x241 millimeters)
Depth: 16 planes

...the above also recorded in /tmp/report-video
#

What should have been the correct "trident" driver actually loaded on initial boot but caused a lot of screen distortion and flickering so I switched to "vesa".

-Computer-
Processor : AMD Athlon(tm) XP 1700+
Memory : 505MB (148MB used)
Operating System : Unknown distribution
User Name : root (root)
Date/Time : Sat 26 Jan 2013 11:43:02 PM CST
-Display-
Resolution : 1024x768 pixels
OpenGL Renderer : Gallium 0.4 on softpipe
X11 Vendor : The X.Org Foundation
-Multimedia-
Audio Adapter : VIA686A - VIA 82C686A/B rev50

Multimedia audio controller : VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C686 AC97 Audio Controller (rev 50)
Ethernet controller : ADMtek NC100 Network Everywhere Fast Ethernet 10/100 (rev 11)
VGA compatible controller : Trident Microsystems CyberBlade/i1 (prog-if 00 [VGA controller

Code:
# free
             total         used         free       shared      buffers
Mem:        505804       490080        15724            0        46124
-/+ buffers:             443956        61848
Swap:            0            0            0
#


Pretty good live pfix=ram on an old box with no swap. Smile
Too many bad sectors was the end of the hdd.
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