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sheldonisaac

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PostPosted: Wed 16 Jan 2013, 16:33    Post subject: gtkdialog 0.8.3  

The newest Pmusic requires gtkdialog 0.8.3

Where is a version of gtkdialog 0.8.3 which works under Lucid puppy? My primary Puppy is Lucid 5.2.8-005

Thanks,
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don570


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PostPosted: Wed 16 Jan 2013, 21:31    Post subject:  

Quote:
Where is a version of gtkdialog 0.8.3


I put together a package for Barrry' Kauler's Precise distro.
It should work for Lucid.

Try it and report back...


http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=677831#677831

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sheldonisaac

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PostPosted: Wed 16 Jan 2013, 22:48    Post subject: gtkdialog 0.8.3 etc  

don570 wrote:
Quote:
Where is a version of gtkdialog 0.8.3

I put together a package for Barrry' Kauler's Precise distro.
It should work for Lucid.

Try it and report back...

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=677831#677831

Thank you very much, don570; it does indeed work.
I copied the gtkdialog4 file:
Quote:
~> which gtkdialog
/usr/bin/gtkdialog
~>

Quote:
~> gtkdialog -v
gtkdialog version 0.8.4 r503M (C) 2003-2007 Laszlo Pere, 2011-2012 Thunor
Built with additional support for: Glade.
~>
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RSH


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PostPosted: Wed 16 Jan 2013, 23:08    Post subject:  

Hi.

Here is my output on gtkdialog:

GtkDialog, which is a link to gtkdialog3
Code:
sh-4.1# gtkdialog -v
gtkdialog version 0.7.21 (C) 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007 by Laszlo Pere


GtkDialog4
Code:
sh-4.1# gtkdialog4 -v
gtkdialog version 0.8.0 (C) 2003-2007 Laszlo Pere, 2011 Thunor


GtkDialog5
Code:
sh-4.1# gtkdialog5 -v
gtkdialog version 0.8.2 release (C) 2003-2007 Laszlo Pere, 2011-2012 Thunor


I have downloaded the above linked .pet and found a binary named gtkdialog4.

So, how did you get this output from a gtkdialog4 binary?

Code:
~> gtkdialog -v
gtkdialog version 0.8.4 r503M (C) 2003-2007 Laszlo Pere, 2011-2012 Thunor
Built with additional support for: Glade.
~>


Is gtkdialog4 the right name for this binary?

Please explain...

Thanks

RSH

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sheldonisaac

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PostPosted: Wed 16 Jan 2013, 23:25    Post subject:
Subject description: re gtkdialog
 

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RSH wrote:

I have downloaded the above linked .pet and
found a binary named gtkdialog4.

So, how did you get this output from a gtkdialog4 binary?

Code:
~> gtkdialog -v
gtkdialog version 0.8.4 r503M (C) 2003-2007 Laszlo Pere, 2011-2012 Thunor
Built with additional support for: Glade.
~>

Is gtkdialog4 the right name for this binary?

RSH, please excuse any unclearness.
Clicking the pet resulted in the binary gtkdialog4 being placed into
/usr/sbin
I copied that file into /usr/bin and renamed it to gtkdialog

It was one approach to dealing with the way gtkdialog is used by Pmusic.

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Sheldon
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RSH


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PostPosted: Thu 17 Jan 2013, 01:15    Post subject:  

I think you did not really understand my question the right way.

As you can see in my gtkdialog output, the gtkdialog4 binary version is 0.8.0

You posted a gtkdialog version 0.8.4 - also from a gtkdialog4 binary.

I want to know:

- is this file wrong renamed to gtkdialog4 after compiling?
- or is every new gtkdialog binary 0.8.0 and above renamed after compiling to gtkdialog4 - from now on

Thanks

RSH

Edit:

Or will this confusing all users/developers of Puppy Linux in the future and therefor adding a big minus to the related big list of minuses on installing and using applications? Wink

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PostPosted: Thu 17 Jan 2013, 21:21    Post subject:  

Shouldn't you guys stick to the same naming convention that
Barry Kauler uses. He hasn't advanced to gtkdialog5.

I try to stick to his methods as close as possible.

Barry likes to make gtkdialog4 the application and gtkdialog the link.

This is an image of Exprimo which does it differently.



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pemasu


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PostPosted: Fri 18 Jan 2013, 02:18    Post subject:  

I follow the logic explained by 01micko at some time when the debate about gtkdialog naming was hot. Due to incompatilities of improved version at that time. I wont go to the details. They can be found from the gtkdialog thread.

But 01micko posted this idea, to use one improved gtkdialog binary only...and the others are symlinks. If there is incompatibility the idea was that those gtkdialog apps should be updated by the developer.

I have gone with this logic since then...as 01micko.

So....there is diversity...Barry Kauler do the naming his way....some others other way. But there has not been much problems with it,

Also....01micko and I use the latest gtkdialog version at the time. Barry updates woof slower.
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PostPosted: Fri 18 Jan 2013, 02:53    Post subject:  

pemasu wrote:


But 01micko posted this idea, to use one improved gtkdialog binary only...and the others are symlinks. If there is incompatibility the idea was that those gtkdialog apps should be updated by the developer.

I have gone with this logic since then...as 01micko

exactly...I wish everyone was on board with this approach...but......

BTW/ update JWM-653, since it now works with java...thanks to 01micko kicking butt....

I don't know if you got around to reposting a working JRE in the SFS directory. I posted one the other board, but there's probably some new versions on the way.
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PostPosted: Fri 18 Jan 2013, 09:26    Post subject:
Subject description: re gtkdialog
 

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pemasu wrote:
I follow the logic explained by 01micko ..

.. to use one improved gtkdialog binary only...and the others are symlinks.

Thanks to all for your posts on this issue.

I had installed the one that don570 made
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=677831#677831

I did the below, and Pmusic (which looks for gtkdialog) starts normally.

Code:
/usr/sbin> ln -s gtkdialog4 gtkdialog
/usr/sbin> which gtkdialog
/usr/sbin/gtkdialog
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PostPosted: Thu 24 Jan 2013, 14:33    Post subject: Re: How does puppy's flash boot loader pick the sfs file?
Subject description: pdev1 and psubdir don't determine which lupu_528.sfs file loaded, what does?
 

otropogo wrote:
Have just completed a dizzying series of test with a newly configured USBflash boot card, trying to figure out how to control which version of the lupu_528.sfs file is loaded.
I just saw an interesting comment from ETP regarding sfs and savefile discovery here:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=24047&start=278
Possibly all puppies may benefit from further work/understanding in this area. Time consuming and tricky to cover all contingencies though.
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PostPosted: Tue 29 Jan 2013, 03:09    Post subject: Re: How does puppy's flash boot loader pick the sfs file?
Subject description: pdev1 and psubdir don't determine which lupu_528.sfs file loaded, what does?
 

greengeek wrote:
otropogo wrote:
Have just completed a dizzying series of test with a newly configured USBflash boot card, trying to figure out how to control which version of the lupu_528.sfs file is loaded.
I just saw an interesting comment from ETP regarding sfs and savefile discovery here:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=24047&start=278
Possibly all puppies may benefit from further work/understanding in this area. Time consuming and tricky to cover all contingencies though.


Thanks for the link. Have responded to ETP's post there.

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PostPosted: Wed 06 Feb 2013, 22:13    Post subject:  

new backgrounds.
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PostPosted: Sat 16 Feb 2013, 13:31    Post subject:  

regarding installing chrome, are the following two steps still required for the latest packages?
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1. First, please uninstall any Iron, Chromium, or Chrome pets.

2. Second, install this libgconf2-4_3.1.6 pet.
libgconf2-4_3.1.6.pet

http://puppylinux.org/wikka/Chrome

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Atle

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PostPosted: Sun 17 Feb 2013, 07:29    Post subject:  

Its been soon a year since last version of this excellent Puppy was released (5.2.8.005)... Now I wonder if there are anyone around with the idea of releasing a newer version like a 006. We are then close to the 007 version, that I feel could have a slight James Bond theme:-)

I think 5.2.8 has a long life as Precise might never overcome the problematic PAE issue, that makes it useless to me, as its no longer one distro for all, but two versions of the same whereas some works on this and other on that machine. Very confusing for most users and also a small step backwards in the sense of users loosing faith in the distro as one downloads the "flagship" and it does not even boot if this and that hardware is not present.

I seem to remember that Lucid newer missed out on one single boot for as long as I can remember.

Anyhow... Anyone with ideas about a new version of Lucid?

Best

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