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mavrothal
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SFS_load patch for YDRV

#341 Post by mavrothal »

If you want to implement the YDRV it is suggested to also use the attached SFS_load patch so your YDRV sfs will not be picked up by sfs_load.
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#342 Post by nooby »

How is this ydrv suppose to work?
Is it that the basic load sfs can only
take a certain amount so the ydrv
add to how many one can load?

Or can it be used to load sfs at boot
that makes the usual sfs load more free
to add needed sfs ?

I am so stupid me fail to get it at all.

Jemimah came up with adrv recently
is that exact same or another similar
that one also can add to ahve both
adrv and ydrv and then later xdrv
and qdrv and I mean what is it you guys are up to? :)
I use Google Search on Puppy Forum
not an ideal solution though

oui

#343 Post by oui »

Hi Sigmarl

Thank you for the new version

I did quickly try it of course in spite of my actual time trouble.

a few question:

a/ how to avoid the question if we want use a save file living ArchPup after the first start (for user don't using a save file, EACH start is a first start and it is a highly disturbing question = time wasting!)? how to dismount definitively this new step doing a remasterisation if you really now want to include this step in your future versions as if user would be completely incapable to go to a menu and do the same the only one time needed to generate this save file (absurd is: to avoid this little difficulty only ONE time for untalented users, users don't using save file have the new question ALL the time!)

b/ I did remaster and because of the new adrv-12.12.sfs, I did concatenate in /archpup/install to make the new archpup-12.12.sfs all the files being in the tree of both /initrd subdirectories. after that, I did make an adrv-12.12.sfs from an empty /archpup/installadr having nothing else other than 4 empty dir (/archpup/installadr/etc, /archpup/installadr/opt, /archpup/installadr/root and /archpup/installadr/usr)

all seems to work properly excepted my added gnu-icecat (as Arch seems don't to support real GNU software :oops: : no libre-kernel, no icecat ... sorry!)

icecat starts and crashes now after a few seconds (segmentations error message!)

an idea perhaps?

c/ I will use in the future the adr-nn.nn.sfs to put in my own packages and extensions. is that the expected use of it?

rgds

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Sakura terminal

#344 Post by Scooby »

I played around a little with sakura terminal.

I added a couple of alias commands to ~/.config/sakura/sakura.conf

when I source the file it's OK

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source /root/.config/sakura/sakura.conf
But after reboot the commands are not available unless I source them again.
(same if I start new terminal)
Isn't sakura.conf supposed to be read when I start sakura?

I tried to add the source command to .start but it didnt help

simargl

#345 Post by simargl »

@Scooby: Use .bashrc to define your aliases, and they should work not just in sakura but in every other terminal emulator.
@oui: There's icecat package available in AUR https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/icecat/, maybe it will work better than debian's or other you used. Save file dialog is started from /usr/bin/wmreboot or /usr/bin/wmpoweroff, it's easy to remove if you want to. And adrv.sfs contains openbox, thunar, geany... all graphical applications, so these packages could be easily replaced for instance with pekwm, pcmanfm, leafpad, etc..
To explain this a bit more:
If you want to use pekwm as WM you must remove /etc/profile.d/openbox.sh and add /etc/profile.d/pekwm.sh with this content
export WINDOW_MANAGER=pekwm.
Just removing openbox, without /etc/profile.d/openbox.sh will not work on boot system will be 'trapped' inside infinite loop, trying to execute openbox over and over.

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Re: SFS_load patch for YDRV

#346 Post by Scooby »

mavrothal wrote:If you want to implement the YDRV it is suggested to also use the attached SFS_load patch so your YDRV sfs will not be picked up by sfs_load.
I wanted to learn about patching. So I checked it out.

I guess you're using diff/patch commands for text-files?

I tried to apply the patch initrd1-3.patch

I thought it should be applied to initrd.gz present in archpup-12.12.2.iso

So I mounted ISO. Cp'd over initrd.gz and unpacked it
and tried to apply the patch.

It complains saying cant find file to patch - initramfs.orig

I tried to unsquashfs it also to no avail.

Could you please say something about the order of the procedure?

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Re: LAN Problem

#347 Post by darkcity »

rameshiyer wrote:So far, I was not able to setup my wired LAN. Please let me know how to setup eth0. How to setup desktop shortcut for programs?.
as previously mention openbox and thunar don't provide pinboard. Here I explain how to use xfdesktop for the pinboard-
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=83691

Did you get eth0 working? Have you tried pns-tool?

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How does Archpup handle USB drives? looked in /mnt but no action ...

rameshiyer

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#348 Post by rameshiyer »

Dear Darkcity

Thank you for the help. I will try your suggestion on my office PC on Tuesday (15th January 13) and let you know the status. In meantime, why eth0 is not working under pwireless option already available Arch puppy. Even if changed the setting available in the Pwireless option, it goes to DHCP mode. If possible please look into this. Also anther problem that I have download Java run time 7 through pacman. However, still not working in Firefox and Chromium 23. ( Please note that I am not a programmer) I have been following the Puppy from very beginning of puppy and also have interest in Linux. So simple solution is highly solicited.

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Re: Archpupy

#349 Post by stifiling »

rameshiyer wrote:Dear Darkcity

Thank you for the help. I will try your suggestion on my office PC on Tuesday (15th January 13) and let you know the status. In meantime, why eth0 is not working under pwireless option already available Arch puppy. Even if changed the setting available in the Pwireless option, it goes to DHCP mode. If possible please look into this. Also anther problem that I have download Java run time 7 through pacman. However, still not working in Firefox and Chromium 23. ( Please note that I am not a programmer) I have been following the Puppy from very beginning of puppy and also have interest in Linux. So simple solution is highly solicited.
jre7 by oracle isn't in the arch linux repos. you must have downloaded the open-jdk7, in which you'd also need to install icedtea-web-java7. this puppy sfs works though which is the oracle jre7:

http://101.143.162.62/puppy/opt/jre-1.7.0.09.sfs

in firefox at least. chromium has always been difficult with java on any linux...at least for me.

did you try setting the static ip from the commandline? did that work?

simargl

#350 Post by simargl »

New archarch.sfs upload is finished, it comes also with smtube and Faience icon theme http://tiheum.deviantart.com/art/Faienc ... -255099649, those blue folder icons look cool. :) BTW, this icon theme is not complete and depends on faenza for some parts. Also I've uploaded new archdev.sfs with musl compiled to only have static libraries (thanks jamesbond) and with prefix /opt/musl. First post links are updated.

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#351 Post by mavrothal »

Scooby, nooby, et all,
YDRV and the associated patches are intended for people building (an) archpup (spin).
Involve initrd.gz expansion and modification and can go very wrong if you make any mistakes.
So if you do not know how to do it you probably should not try it!

But you have to learn. Right? so here we go.

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mkdir initramfs
cd initramfs
gunzip -c /path/to/initrd.gz | cpio -i
# apply patches/modify initramfs
mv /path/to/initrd.gz /path/to/initrd.gz.orig
find . -print | cpio -H newc -o | gzip -9 > /path/to/initrd.gz
Make sure you know what to do and how to boot your system if you get a "kernel panic", "can not find files", etc...
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#352 Post by rameshiyer »

Dear Darkcity

Other puppy versions, java runtime is working perfectly including Chromium builds ( Google, Iron ). Anyway I will try java SFS file in ArchPup and let you know the outcome latter.

Static IP issue in wired LAN environment ?. One of my colleague helped in this regard. He created a script for static IP, Mask and 'Gateway in Arch Puppy. In order to get internet, I have to launch (press) that script file every time after booting of machine. In office, I am getting internet in Arch Puppy through this method. However, I feel that this is not permanent solution. Other Puppy variant, there is no problem at all.

simargl

Re: LAN Problem

#353 Post by simargl »

darkcity wrote:How does Archpup handle USB drives? looked in /mnt but no action ...
Mounting USB drives is problematic part that we couldn't really solve yet - probably it is related to udev, but I can't be sure. Temporary solution is to click system->Rescan disk drives, that will just restart pup-volume-monitor daemon, and usb icon will appear in thunar, or run this from terminal: /etc/init.d/start-pup-volume-monitor restart.

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#354 Post by mavrothal »

simargl wrote:New archarch.sfs upload is finished
You may want to try adding some version numbers somewhere or provide a list of md5sums, because not everyone checks and downloads everyday the changes.
As far as I can tell there are 3 "archpup-12.12.2.iso", 4 "archdev-12.12.sfs", 3 "archapp-12.12.sfs" and 5 or 6 "archpup-12.12.sfs"!
This can be a source of problems impossible to track and solve.
Having different files with the same name is not a good idea in general.
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#355 Post by darkcity »

EDIT:

@rameshiyer

is the solution similar to Stifiling's suggestion, here?
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 048#677048

Could add the code to /root/.start if you don't want to manually run the script everytime.

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BTW is there any chance of a Startup folder like in trad Puppy?

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EDIT: thanks for USB drive help ; -)

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#356 Post by mavrothal »

darkcity wrote: BTW is there any chance of a Startup folder like in trad Puppy?
I have added these lines in my /root/.start :wink:

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for i in `ls /root/Startup`
do 
 exec /root/Startup/$i &
 sleep 0.5s 
done
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#357 Post by simargl »

mavrothal: New versions are in folder 12.12.2, from md5sum.txt it's clear what is latest, that is all I can do.

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#358 Post by stifiling »

mavrothal wrote:
simargl wrote:New archarch.sfs upload is finished
You may want to try adding some version numbers somewhere or provide a list of md5sums, because not everyone checks and downloads everyday the changes.
As far as I can tell there are 3 "archpup-12.12.2.iso", 4 "archdev-12.12.sfs", 3 "archapp-12.12.sfs" and 5 or 6 "archpup-12.12.sfs"!
This can be a source of problems impossible to track and solve.
Having different files with the same name is not a good idea in general.
i must say.....i didn't know there was a new archpup-12.12.2.iso until abt an hr ago.

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#359 Post by mavrothal »

simargl wrote:mavrothal: New versions are in folder 12.12.2, from md5sum.txt it's clear what is latest, that is all I can do.
I know that.
But your first post says in bold letters "UPDATE: 12.12.2, January 9th, 2013" and as I said do not expect everyone to have read the so far ~100 posts in this thread after January 9th. Do not even expect them to ever open again the first page of this thread!
At least indicate in the first post the latest date of each file and update the title with the latest day, every time any of the 4 files in the first post is changed .
Then again, maybe people are just following every post here.

(BTW the archdev link in the first post is broken. Points to a 12.12.2 file)
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#360 Post by bark_bark_bark »

I need Broadcom Drivers for ArchPup 12.12.2. If there were drivers built-in, they're not supporting my wifi device.
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