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stifiling
Joined: 29 Dec 2007 Posts: 388
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Posted: Thu 10 Jan 2013, 08:47 Post subject:
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simargl wrote: | @stifiling: This test iso works only with kernel parameter apextsfs=arch_openbox.sfs, otherwise additional sfs is not loaded. So that would require patching grub4dos, but even with that user will have to edit menu.lst every time for another arch_*.sfs. It's good idea that you moved /usr/bin/X to another sfs, so on boot it will not stuck trying to exec archpupx over and over again. |
grub4dos would need to be patched? boot parameters work with grub4dos.
yes, to change DE the user would have to change the boot parameter...what's so wrong wit that? it's not something they'll be doing two or three times a day.
but when i say picky users, i'm referring to users like oui. who didn't want a savefile, he didn't want pop up messages....this would give a user like him.....all of what they want, and none of what they don't want.
it would be impossible to hear a "i don't like this, how do i get rid of it?" comment.
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peebee

Joined: 21 Sep 2008 Posts: 3252 Location: Worcestershire, UK
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Posted: Thu 10 Jan 2013, 12:37 Post subject:
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Wifi is working much better in the 12.12.2 version - still need to put b43 into the /etc/rc.d/MODULESCONFIG addlist to get the driver to load and Pwireless2 doesn't manage to re-establish a working connection after a reboot without manual intervention (restart wpa-supplicant on the debug tab seems to do the trick).
Has anybody managed to get a synaptics touchpad working? I've installed xf86-input-synaptics-1.6.2 and its dependency mtdev-1.1.3-1 and edited /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/50-synaptics.conf as shown on the Arch Linux wiki but I still don't have edge scrolling on my touchpad.....
Finally, I have a problem when I try to load the archdev-12.12.2.sfs - it just hangs on the message that it is running the pinstall script....
Cheers
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mavrothal

Joined: 24 Aug 2009 Posts: 2964
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Posted: Thu 10 Jan 2013, 12:40 Post subject:
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simargl, stifiling, et al,
this IS the full initrd patch that will allow adding in the fs-union an another (applications for example) sfs.
The name of the additional sfs is defined in DISTRO_SPECS and in this case in "adrv_arch_1212.sfs" but I it could be anything.
The DISTRO_SPECS also uses DISTRO_IDSTRING but this is not necessary for the system to work. Just better.
No changes outside initrd are needed for the system to work.
To be fair I did not do much .
Just adapted jemimah's code from Saluki for the latest woof initrd/init (last comment: 120328).
Should work in any recent puppy with this init and probably others (tried it with today's woof version and works fine)
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initrd patch that allows the addition of an adrv.sfs in the union during boot time.
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stifiling
Joined: 29 Dec 2007 Posts: 388
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Posted: Thu 10 Jan 2013, 13:05 Post subject:
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mavrothal, can u upload the working initrd.gz file. i don't know how to apply the patch.
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mavrothal

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Posted: Thu 10 Jan 2013, 13:35 Post subject:
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stifiling wrote: | mavrothal, can u upload the working initrd.gz file. i don't know how to apply the patch. |
I suggest you learn. Fast
Till then here it is
Keep in mind for the specific initrd.gz
a) is the 12.12.1 initrd but I believe should work with 12.12.2 since the archpup sfs file name is the same.
b) that your adrv sfs must be named exactly: (yes works with any name )
c) that you must add the included IDSTRING to your vmlinuz and SFSs like this:
Code: | echo -n l212ARCH09012013XXXXXXXXXXXX1234 >> vmlinuz # etc | typos are lethal here
d) learn to patch
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stifiling
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Posted: Thu 10 Jan 2013, 13:58 Post subject:
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thanks man...it's working perfectly and is extremely useful.
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mavrothal

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Posted: Thu 10 Jan 2013, 14:41 Post subject:
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stifiling wrote: | thanks man...it's working perfectly and is extremely useful. |
OK...
Let's see the goods then
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simargl
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Posted: Thu 10 Jan 2013, 14:44 Post subject:
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Thanks mavrothal , now I will test this, but could you just explain is adding DISTRO_IDSTRING really necessary, and in patch is +DISTRO_IDSTRING='l212ARCH09012013XXXXXXXXXXXX1234', maybe it should be 1 not l. What name would you choose for DISTRO_ADRVSFS in archpup, we should choose it now and always use the same. I've made one change in /etc/profile suggested by jamesbond, moved settings for WINDOW_MANAGER to /etc/profile.d/openbox.sh, and added this in /etc/profile.
Code: | for profile in /etc/profile.d/*.sh; do
test -r "$profile" && . "$profile"
done
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Next (problematic) thing that needs fixing is /root/.xinitrc, because we want ~/.start& only for openbox, and not for xfce.
Code: | ~/.start&
killall dbus-daemon &
exec dbus-launch $WINDOW_MANAGER |
stifiling wrote: |
grub4dos would need to be patched? boot parameters work with grub4dos. |
What I meant is that grub4dos-config, installed gui that writes menu.lst needs to be patched, not grub4dos by itself. Off course that's not necessary anymore.
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stifiling
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Posted: Thu 10 Jan 2013, 14:59 Post subject:
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my idea is that"
adrv=archpup-DE-*.sfs (or whatever name)
zdrv=archapps.sfs
so that way, if there's an archpup-DE-xfce.sfs...it'll load that one, or if they switch to an archpup-DE-kde.sfs instead...it'll load that one. keeping the archapps.sfs separate, easily upgradeable, and ready to use with any archpup-DE-*.sfs environment.
also moving openbox out of the main.sfs...and into the adrv, will take the .xinitrc and .start scripts with it.
so an xfce.sfs won't have to fight with it...it will have it's on .xinitrc file. which won't exist in the main.sfs
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mavrothal

Joined: 24 Aug 2009 Posts: 2964
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Posted: Thu 10 Jan 2013, 15:05 Post subject:
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simargl wrote: | Thanks mavrothal , now I will test this, but could you just explain is adding DISTRO_IDSTRING really necessary, and in patch is +DISTRO_IDSTRING='l212ARCH09012013XXXXXXXXXXXX1234', maybe it should be 1 not l. |
DISTRO_IDSTRING is an arbitrary 16bit number (32 alphanumeric characters) that is used by the initrd/init to identify better the SFSs that go with the specific kernel. Is not necessary but can help with complex installation setting.
In Archpup that is using the same sfs names for different versions maybe particularly usefull.
Regarding the specific number you are right. I corrected it in the above posted (I guess this typo not that lethal )
simargl wrote: | What name would you choose for DISTRO_ADRVSFS in archpup, we should choose it now and always use the same. |
ardv_arch_NNNN.sfs
"a" can be Additional, Alternative, Applications, Another...
Fits everything
stifiling wrote: | adrv=archpup-DE-*.sfs (or whatever name)
zdrv=archapps.sfs |
zdrive is traditionally used for the kernel, if you want to have it outside the main sfs so can be also changed easily without affecting the userspace SFSs.
If you need 3 userspace SFSs, you can use it as such, though will start looking like Tinycore. Without carefully curated SFSs can be a mess.
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stifiling
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Posted: Thu 10 Jan 2013, 15:21 Post subject:
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yes the zdrive is traditionally used for the modules. but archpup isn't using it at all. So this is a good way to put it to use. And not just to use it, but using it for a great reason.
so using those 3 sfs files would have the iso set up for any level of user. shed the archapps.sfs if all you want is DE for intermediates. shed the DE.sfs if all you want is base functionality, for experts.
so if the question is ever asked, "Anybody know of a distro for beginners?" the answer is Archpup
"Anybody know of a distro for intermediates?" Archpup
"Anybody know of a distro for experts?" Archpup
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mavrothal

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Posted: Thu 10 Jan 2013, 15:27 Post subject:
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stifiling wrote: | yes the zdrive is traditionally used for the modules. but archpup isn't using it at all. |
yet...
(see above for the rest)
But, I do not intend to build any Archpup. The builders can do as they please. It's all OSS.
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stifiling
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Posted: Thu 10 Jan 2013, 15:33 Post subject:
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mavrothal wrote: | If you need 3 userspace SFSs, you can use it as such, though will start looking like Tinycore. Without carefully curated SFSs can be a mess. |
Tinycore can be a mess, mus agree with that. i thought this way would've been clean though but.....maybe i'm wrong.
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Scooby
Joined: 03 Mar 2012 Posts: 601
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Posted: Thu 10 Jan 2013, 17:04 Post subject:
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Thought I shared how I got rid of screen tearing on my hardware setup.
I have Intel graphics
Add file /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-intel.conf with the following content:
Code: | Section "Device"
Identifier "Intel Graphics"
Driver "intel"
Option "AccelMethod" "sna"
Option "TearFree" "true"
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no more tearing for me
Original info
Acceleration method
Tear-free video
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Scooby
Joined: 03 Mar 2012 Posts: 601
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Posted: Thu 10 Jan 2013, 17:07 Post subject:
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peebee wrote: |
Has anybody managed to get a synaptics touchpad working? I've installed xf86-input-synaptics-1.6.2 and its dependency mtdev-1.1.3-1 and edited /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/50-synaptics.conf as shown on the Arch Linux wiki but I still don't have edge scrolling on my touchpad.....
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I tried to no success, but will tinker more with it
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