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simargl · Guest

Sourceforge currently shows that iso size is 86.1 mb, but real size is 82.1 mb, I don't know why they give false information. If you want me to add linux-firmware (4mb) in main iso, then we must remove something, not 4mb but whole 6mb to make iso under 80mb again. Plan is: first I will move libraries mentioned here http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=675849#675849 to archdev sfs; then completely remove pacmanxg - that program is good, but anyone can install it later; remove yaourt with 3 dependencies. Packer will return but will be in archdev, it is logical because you anyway need archdev to compile. If you want to help, see if you can find some unnecessary stuff inside /initrd/pup_ro2 - this command might help (shows 20 largest files in folder):

dennis-slacko531 · Joined: 18 Jan 2012 Posts: 75 Location: Oregon

This may be minor, but I just installed Gimp using the terminal "pacman -S gimp" -- well, that increased my personal save file from 90MB to about 260MB, but Gimp didn't appear in the Graphics Menu. So, I used PacmanXG4 to reinstall Gimp and it appeared in the menu then, plus my personal save file increased about 7MB (menu entry?). Who knows, but this is pretty cool...!!

stifiling · Joined: 29 Dec 2007 Posts: 387

simargl · Guest

dennis-slacko531: If some applications don't appear in menu you could try to remove /root/.cache/menus folder, that will force menu to recreate. For installing larger applications maybe it's better to use makesfs script, that way space in savefile will not be used.

Anyone tested Pwireless, I can't add Frisbee because it's not using system dhcpcd, wpa_supplicant..., and needs older system libraries like readline.so.5 (included is readline.so.6).

peebee · Joined: 21 Sep 2008 Posts: 903 Location: Malvern, Worcs, UK

simargl · Guest

yaf-splash should not be mandatory, it only shows notifications, but ok will add Xdialog, it's 30kb.
Now I will try to recompile cups, same version 1.6.1, but without dependencies krb -1.5 mb and avahi -500kb. This folder /usr/share/i18n compressed is 3mb, something could be removed from there, .. but what...
EDIT: it's finished - cups package size is 6.7mb, converted was 6.9mb, plus I removed 5 dependencies of that old cups package, combined size 2.1mb.

mavrothal · Joined: 24 Aug 2009 Posts: 1058

simargl · Guest

My idea is, as written is first post, to give full control to the end user - if someone want to install his own specific programs then he would just download main iso, and if he thinks that is too hard or lacks experience he will also download archapps sfs, then connect to the internet and start to explore. How to use pacman is explained in documentation with examples, everyone can make use of it. I first installed Arch Linux using net-install cd image. When installation finished I had OS without any application, not even graphical server, so had to use console browser called links to search on archwiki for informations, and finally got to work, after some 3 hours. That is what I would call bare bones OS, not ArchPup. And 80MB limit was invented today to add some "challenge to this game".

stifiling · Joined: 29 Dec 2007 Posts: 387

peebee · Joined: 21 Sep 2008 Posts: 903 Location: Malvern, Worcs, UK

darkcity · Joined: 23 May 2010 Posts: 2215 Location: near here

@stifiling
I would like something like that. My idea would be to include you those extra puppy apps that make up for not having a full Desktop Environment (but usually only require gtkdialog) in an SFS. People going for KDE/Gnome would have less need for this.

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I've tested pns-tool in 12.12 and it works very well. Is there a way to make it save the choices made?

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I've tested Mavrothal's Frisbee package in 12.12 and it kinda works. But I need to create the file /usr/local/Frisbee/interface manually, see my post here for more details-
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=676071#676071

Also, how does trad Puppy know to modprobe b43 itself?

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I like the way trad Puppy has default-app links, maybe these could be added to archpup,

for example, instead of tint2c having

launcher_item_app = /usr/applications/share/firefox.desktop
launcher_item_app = /usr/applications/share/chrome.desktop
etc..

just use-
launcher_item_app = /root/.defaultapps/default-browser

then change where /root/.defaultapps/default-browser points to.

peebee · Joined: 21 Sep 2008 Posts: 903 Location: Malvern, Worcs, UK

ciento · Joined: 17 Sep 2010 Posts: 145

12.12-1 sends me to a #prompt, saying it can't find the 12-12.sfs.

MD5 matches, verified the data when burning a cd, used unetbootin,
other live media are booting fine, even copied the .sfs to the root
of each partition. Is there a mystery command to run at the prompt?

ls shows bin, sbin and the other usual suspects.

The previous version boots to a nice butterfly.