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Fatdog64-611 Final (Updated 12-14-2012)
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nooby

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PostPosted: Sat 29 Dec 2012, 12:16    Post subject:  
Terryphi wrote:
rcrsn51 wrote:
Terryphi wrote:
Where is the resize personal file option in Fatdog?

Menu > Control Panel > System > Fatdog64 Savefile Tool


This gives a dialog message::

Fatdog64 Savefile Tool can only be used when you run without using a savefile. Reboot your system and specify savefile=none as your boot options.

But I am running with a savefile. I now want to increase the size.


Very good you took up this. I have installed FD on two
computers recently so I want to know how to increase it
too in case of future need. In meanwhile I may use sfs
but still I would want to have that feature.

does not the FAQ and Help say anything about it?
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PostPosted: Sat 29 Dec 2012, 12:57    Post subject:  
Blwyddyn newydd dda i chi, Terry!
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PostPosted: Sat 29 Dec 2012, 13:03    Post subject:  
Terryphi wrote:
But I am running with a savefile. I now want to increase the size.

Precisely. But you can't increase the savefile while it is in use. So you need to temporarily boot using "savefile=none", then increase it.
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PostPosted: Sat 29 Dec 2012, 13:13    Post subject:  
rcrsn51,

Thanks, I had worked it out. Embarassed

I have to say I prefer BarryK's resize at next boot method.
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PostPosted: Sat 29 Dec 2012, 13:16    Post subject:  
Sage wrote:
Blwyddyn newydd dda i chi, Terry!


Diolch. Pob hwl, Sage.
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PostPosted: Sat 29 Dec 2012, 14:10    Post subject:  
" you need to temporarily boot using "savefile=none", then increase it."

thanks rcrsn51 so it was that easy then. No wonder I never thought if that .
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PostPosted: Sat 29 Dec 2012, 14:25    Post subject:  
Hello Terryphi

Quote:
More importantly it does not include a plugin for Quicktime videos. Is one available?


VLC can play and remux/transcode Quicktime natively.

If it can't play a file it is more likely which codec was used, not the Quicktime container, that is the problem.

I was experimenting recently, converting a .mov sample from the Apple website into a form that AVIdemux could handle.

It was MPEG4 part 2 (XVID/DIVX) video plus AAC audio, which is not a valid combination in other common containers.

But if I asked VLC to copy the video and transcode the audio to mp3 in an AVI container, it worked and AVIdemux could handle it.

Being a proprietary format Apple can change it any time they like. So you may have a new one that VLC can't do.
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PostPosted: Sat 29 Dec 2012, 16:41    Post subject:  
Terryphi wrote:
rcrsn51,

Thanks, I had worked it out. Embarassed

I have to say I prefer BarryK's resize at next boot method.


The problem with the next boot method, it increases whichever puppy is booted next, not necessarily the the one where you wanted the savefile increased.

For example:
Boot up in Wary, increase the savefile, then reboot.
Now boot up in Racy and the increase is applied to the Racy savefile, not Wary.

Fatdog is a little smarter than most puppies thanks to kirk and jamesbond.
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PostPosted: Sat 29 Dec 2012, 19:51    Post subject: Fatdog64-611 Final (Updated 12-14-2012)  
I installed Fatdog 611 to my emachines D620 laptop using the fatdog
installer.
Computer
Processor AMD Athlon(tm) Processor 2650e
Memory 1790MB (127MB used)
Machine Type Physical machine
Operating System Fatdog64 [442447e63b]
User Name root (root)
Date/Time Sat 29 Dec 2012 06:32:06 PM GMT
Display
Resolution 1280x800 pixels
OpenGL Renderer Gallium 0.4 on ATI RS690
X11 Vendor The X.Org Foundation
Audio Devices
Audio Adapter HDA-Intel - HDA ATI SB
Version
Kernel Linux 3.4.18 (x86_64)
Version #1 SMP Thu Nov 8 21:11:23 EST 2012
C Library GNU C Library version 2.13 (stable)
Distribution Fatdog64 [442447e63b]
OpenGL
Vendor X.Org R300 Project
Renderer Gallium 0.4 on ATI RS690
Version 2.1 Mesa 9.0
Direct Rendering Yes
Network controller Broadcom Corporation BCM4312 802.11b/g (rev 01)

Hardinfo is working fine on this laptop, I guess I broke it somehow on
my desktop pc.
I've recompiled vlc with lua support so the internet playlist is
available,also updated ffmpeg to version 1.0.1 (using the same
./configure line as the previous version).
Thanks to kirk and james.
vlcscreen.jpg
 Description   
 Filesize   63.95 KB
 Viewed   802 Time(s)

vlcscreen.jpg
vlcscreen2.jpg
 Description   
 Filesize   27.79 KB
 Viewed   785 Time(s)

vlcscreen2.jpg
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Terryphi


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PostPosted: Sun 30 Dec 2012, 03:21    Post subject:  
smokey01 wrote:
Fatdog is a little smarter than most puppies thanks to kirk and jamesbond.


Perhaps too smart because it makes it more complicated for the user involving two reboots of Fatdog.

Equally annoying is the fact that on normal boot Fatdog does confine the search for a savefile to a specified directory but searches everywhere. Even re-named backup copies are found! I seem to recall BK tried this idea on a version of Quirky but thankfully dropped it quickly.
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PostPosted: Sun 30 Dec 2012, 03:45    Post subject:  
Terryphi wrote:
smokey01 wrote:
Fatdog is a little smarter than most puppies thanks to kirk and jamesbond.


Perhaps too smart because it makes it more complicated for the user involving two reboots of Fatdog.

Equally annoying is the fact that on normal boot Fatdog does confine the search for a savefile to a specified directory but searches everywhere. Even re-named backup copies are found! I seem to recall BK tried this idea on a version of Quirky but thankfully dropped it quickly.


Fatdog lets you specify any drive/partition/directory to locate the savefile so it doesn't need to go searching. Searching of course is an option.

Code:
This parameter tells Fatdog64 where to find the savefile. It can be specified in three different ways:

    savefile=layer:location
    This instructs Fatdog64 to load the savefile from the specified location, and using the layering mode specified.

    savefile=none
    This instructs Fatdog64 not to use any savefile at at all. In earlier version of Fatdog, this parameter is called pfix=ram)

    savefile=ask
    This instructs Fatdog64 to ask for the savefile details during boot time. At boot time, you can either specify none or layer:location.

You can choose layer from one of the following:

    direct
    This tells Fatdog64 to use the savefile directly - any writes will go direct to the savefile.

    ram
    This tells Fatdog64 to use the RAM layer. Any writes will first be stored and collated in RAM, to be periodically flushed to the actual savefile.

This is worth a read:
file:///usr/share/doc/faqs/boot-options.html
I agree it can be a little frustrating at first but it's worth persevering with, many don't, their loss, I guess.

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PostPosted: Sun 30 Dec 2012, 04:02    Post subject:  
smokey01 wrote:

This is worth a read:
file:///usr/share/doc/faqs/boot-options.html
I agree it can be a little frustrating at first but it's worth persevering with, many don't, their loss, I guess.

Cheers


Thanks, that is very helpful. I am persevering. Wink
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PostPosted: Sun 30 Dec 2012, 04:48    Post subject:  
Terryphi wrote:
Equally annoying is the fact that on normal boot Fatdog does confine the search for a savefile to a specified directory but searches everywhere. Even re-named backup copies are found! I seem to recall BK tried this idea on a version of Quirky but thankfully dropped it quickly.

If you don't want renamed backup to be found, use "search=0" parameter. This was the default in Fatdog 600 but in 610 the default was changed to "search=1".
The downside of "search=0" is that it will always use the first savefile that it finds - so if you have multiple fd64save.ext4 in different partitions you don't know which one get used.
I just re-read the boot FAQ again and the information on search=n is a mixture of 600 and 610 behaviour. The so-called "exact" search is only when search=0. I will get the doc fixed.

Anyway, as smokey01 pointed out (thanks smokey01) the best way is not to use search at all, but to specify the exact location of the savefile.

This will be the new information on that entry:
Quote:

search=n

Control searching of possible savefiles in subdirectories. This parameter tells the boot process "at which subdirectory level in a given path, searching for savefiles is to end". If n is not specified it defaults to 1. Fatdog will search for fd64save* (or whatever filename you specify in the savefile parameter) starting in the directory you specified there too (default is root directory).

If, for example, you want it to search in subdirectories up to 3-level deep, specifiy search=3 instead. If more than one savefile matching the pattern if found, they will be listed and you will be asked to choose the one to use.

Search is only performed when savefile specifies a location of "local" or "usb". Other location types do not perform searching regardless of this parameter. We generally recommend not to depend on this parameter on as searching slows down the boot process; it is always better to specify the exact location of the savefile (using device / uuid / label locations) if possible.


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PostPosted: Sun 30 Dec 2012, 05:11    Post subject:  
nooby wrote:
When it boots up it give an error message
that I fail to write down it is shown too briefly
for me to remember.

It fails to find a lib file due to no such directory?
Can one looks at that in some tempory file somewhere
so I can quote it here and also to compare if it is same
message in the other computer that also works well with FD.

See http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=82611&start=105#671636. The error is harmless.

Quote:
Another questions. All these Samba servers they only work
if I tell them to or are they always active in the background by default?
Good question. Yes, they only work if you tell them to. Open Control Panel, click the tab "System", start "Manage System Services" and you will see which services are running and which one are not.

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PostPosted: Sun 30 Dec 2012, 07:16    Post subject:  
nooby, this may help you setup samba shares in Fatdog.
http://www.smokey01.com/software/Fatdog64-600/Howto-do-stuff-in-FatDog.pdf
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