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edwin.evans
Joined: 15 Nov 2012 Posts: 60
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Posted: Thu 15 Nov 2012, 12:15 Post subject:
Confused about implications of full versus Frugal |
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I'm confused about the implications of full versus Frugal. I'm installing Puppy on an SD Card and I want file changes to be saved immediately but now it looks like they are saved only once in a while.
Is this because I'm doing the wrong type of install?
Can I do a full install on an SD Card?
What do I need to do to not risk losing changes if the power is killed without any warning?
Thanks!
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rcrsn51

Joined: 05 Sep 2006 Posts: 11889 Location: Stratford, Ontario
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Posted: Thu 15 Nov 2012, 12:29 Post subject:
Re: Confused about implications of full versus Frugal |
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edwin.evans wrote: | I'm installing Puppy on an SD Card and I want file changes to be saved immediately but now it looks like they are saved only once in a while. |
A regular frugal install to a hard drive works in PUPMODE=12. That means that your work is immediately written into the save file.
But devices like flash drives and memory cards work in PUPMODE=13, which only saves periodically. The intent is to minimize writing to the device and extend its life.
However, you can convert your SD setup to PUPMODE=12 using the instructions here.
Quote: | Can I do a full install on an SD Card? |
No. Puppy doesn't allow that option.
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edwin.evans
Joined: 15 Nov 2012 Posts: 60
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Posted: Thu 15 Nov 2012, 12:34 Post subject:
Re: Confused about implications of full versus Frugal |
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Thanks you! That clears things up a lot.
During typical usage, about how long would you expect an SD Card to last if writing to flash immediately?
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rcrsn51

Joined: 05 Sep 2006 Posts: 11889 Location: Stratford, Ontario
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Posted: Thu 15 Nov 2012, 12:39 Post subject:
Re: Confused about implications of full versus Frugal |
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edwin.evans wrote: | During typical usage, about how long would you expect an SD Card to last if writing to flash immediately? |
I have no idea. But one forum member ran a flash drive in PUPMODE=12 for months with no problems.
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Pelo
Joined: 10 Sep 2011 Posts: 12591 Location: Mer méditerrannée (1 kms°)
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Posted: Fri 28 Dec 2012, 02:07 Post subject:
PPM : Do it yourself Subject description: How to choose dependancies to be installed |
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In ubuntu repositories from PPM, a lot of dependancies have to be installed.
How can i choose which ones. IF i install all, the package is too big.
You, you know what is necessary.
Thanks for help, sirs.
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jpeps
Joined: 31 May 2008 Posts: 3217
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Posted: Fri 28 Dec 2012, 03:55 Post subject:
Re: PPM : Do it yourself Subject description: How to choose dependancies to be installed |
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Pelo wrote: | In ubuntu repositories from PPM, a lot of dependancies have to be installed.
How can i choose which ones. IF i install all, the package is too big.
You, you know what is necessary.
Thanks for help, sirs. |
You could just run ldd on the exec and get what you need. I also use PetCheck to eliminate installation of duplicate files.
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FeodorF

Joined: 07 Jul 2010 Posts: 228 Location: Heidelberg, Germany
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Posted: Wed 25 Sep 2013, 12:14 Post subject:
Hooking up a CAD-CRT to Puppy Precise 5.7.1 [Solved] Subject description: Black screen after reboot into frugal mode |
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Little story right here.
I have an old CAD CRT (top quality, crystal clear picture) it can display up to 1280x1024x32bit. I tried to get it to work with the Puppy Precise 5.7.1 live CD. The problem occurred right after reboot - running into a black screen with blinking cursor. I had done a frugal install, but it didn't work.
The pupsave file was saved on a USB stick (8GB, FAT32). Using an LED LCD instead of the CRT made a difference - that worked.
After two days I remembered what forum member 'rcrsn51' had said about Barry's marker file for screen detection. 'It needs a partition with Linux id to work properly.'
Yeah! That's what I did today - formated the 8GB USB stick to 'ext3'. (Boy, nobody is perfect!)
...works great now!...
Greetings,
Feodor
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mikeslr

Joined: 16 Jun 2008 Posts: 2342 Location: 500 seconds from Sol
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Posted: Wed 05 Mar 2014, 22:03 Post subject:
Puppy Linux Window's Installer Subject description: Easy Install while running Windows |
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Hi All,
I haven't read all the posts on this thread, so I apologize if it's been mentioned before. But as this thread is a "sticky" and one of the first places a beginner will look for information regarding installing Puppy, I thought it to be a good place to provide a link to Shinobar's Puppy Linux Window Installer. Essentially, it's a program you run under windows --95 thru Windows 8, but see the limitation spelled out in the link-- which will install Puppies to your computer and enable you to dual boot both the installed Puppy and your Window OS.http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=462720#462720. Only a few versions of Puppy come in that format. But once one is installed, you can follow the instructions on the following links to add other Puppies and, if you desire, delete Windows (and your initial Puppy) from your hard drives.
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=762842#762842
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=710157#710157
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EdgarC
Joined: 16 Jul 2014 Posts: 11
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Posted: Wed 16 Jul 2014, 09:10 Post subject:
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Cant dual boot windows 8 and puppy.
Disabled secure boot and uefi, but still does not work.
What to do?
It keep telling me it did not find a file(which is present, but it like it cant see the the drive)
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Yelisey
Joined: 09 Feb 2015 Posts: 6
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Posted: Mon 09 Feb 2015, 15:13 Post subject:
f2fs for internal partition ssd drive Subject description: Grub4dos don`t see that file system |
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How can I do bootable Puppy with f2fs?
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starhawk
Joined: 22 Nov 2010 Posts: 5056 Location: Everybody knows this is nowhere...
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Posted: Mon 09 Feb 2015, 15:51 Post subject:
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Yelisey, please start a separate thread in Beginner's Help for your issue.
EdgarC, I don't know if you're still around and having issues -- but if you are, same deal, please start a new thread.
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fossiili

Joined: 23 May 2006 Posts: 27 Location: Oulu, Finnland
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Posted: Thu 12 Feb 2015, 07:21 Post subject:
To get Puppy runnng from a sd-card Subject description: An EeePC701 and it's ssd-disk broken .... |
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Gentlemen,
I have an EeePC701 and it's ssd-disk is broken. I managed to get it running starting from usb-flash with Knoppix installation. But I would prefer to get Puppy Linux and also to get Puppy runnng from a sd-card.
I have along time ago used temporary Puppy Linux from cd, when it was possible to load Puppy to memory. This time I wanted it to start from sd-card becouse the usb-dongle is not nice to have sticked to the side of EeePC. I have enlarged the EeePC:s memory to 2 Gb so it will work well with Puppy.
There seems to be a lot of different versions of Puppy and may be Quirky Unicorn 6.2 could do. And a possibility to install Puppy to sd-card, some discussion of that I have noticed. But I have some difficulties to follow orfind the origin of the discussion.
I have already downloaded devx_tahr_6.0.2.sfs and tested it by md5sum. So please, could you give me advice how to proceed. Or should I use some other version of Puppy? I have some old PC's and installed Linux-distributions on them and also WindowsXP and Windows7.
Some help I need, I'm not young and smart (80 years)
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Fossil

Joined: 13 Dec 2005 Posts: 1154 Location: Gloucestershire, UK.
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Posted: Thu 12 Feb 2015, 07:40 Post subject:
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As one Fossil to another - Hi! Have you seen this thread? http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=97380
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smokey01

Joined: 30 Dec 2006 Posts: 2681 Location: South Australia
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Posted: Thu 12 Feb 2015, 07:47 Post subject:
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If you follow the directions in this video you should be able to boot from a SD card. I have in the past.
http://smokey01.com/videos/Puppy_on_Flash.mpeg
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fossiili

Joined: 23 May 2006 Posts: 27 Location: Oulu, Finnland
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Posted: Fri 13 Feb 2015, 09:39 Post subject:
Downloaded devx_tahr_6.0.2.sfs, how to proceed with sfs-file Subject description: Should I use some other version than Quirky Unicorn 6.2 ? |
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Thank you both for the information given. But I have two basic questions before I can proceed:
1. I have used an iso-file when installing Linux-distributions. Ones an other type of file to get a usb-flash installation. What shall I do with sfs-files
2. Or would you recommend me to use some other version of Puppy than "Barry's Quirky Unicorn 6.2"
If I find any modern Pyppy version I can handle, I prepare a Puppy cd. I have a separate movable cd/dvd-drive (burner) which I can easily connect to my EeePC and proceed to install Puppy on "hard disk", in this case to a sd-card ready in the slot of the EeePC.
So, some kind of answer to my questions 1. or 2. or any opinion or hint, but no video's please, I have a slow line and can not follow the English spoken in them
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