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A Beginner's Guide to Installing Puppy
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edwin.evans

Joined: 15 Nov 2012
Posts: 60
PostPosted: Thu 15 Nov 2012, 12:15    Post subject: Confused about implications of full versus Frugal  
I'm confused about the implications of full versus Frugal. I'm installing Puppy on an SD Card and I want file changes to be saved immediately but now it looks like they are saved only once in a while.

Is this because I'm doing the wrong type of install?
Can I do a full install on an SD Card?
What do I need to do to not risk losing changes if the power is killed without any warning?

Thanks!
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rcrsn51


Joined: 05 Sep 2006
Posts: 9573
Location: Stratford, Ontario
PostPosted: Thu 15 Nov 2012, 12:29    Post subject: Re: Confused about implications of full versus Frugal  
edwin.evans wrote:
I'm installing Puppy on an SD Card and I want file changes to be saved immediately but now it looks like they are saved only once in a while.

A regular frugal install to a hard drive works in PUPMODE=12. That means that your work is immediately written into the save file.

But devices like flash drives and memory cards work in PUPMODE=13, which only saves periodically. The intent is to minimize writing to the device and extend its life.

However, you can convert your SD setup to PUPMODE=12 using the instructions here.

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Can I do a full install on an SD Card?

No. Puppy doesn't allow that option.
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edwin.evans

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PostPosted: Thu 15 Nov 2012, 12:34    Post subject: Re: Confused about implications of full versus Frugal  
Thanks you! That clears things up a lot.

During typical usage, about how long would you expect an SD Card to last if writing to flash immediately?
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rcrsn51


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PostPosted: Thu 15 Nov 2012, 12:39    Post subject: Re: Confused about implications of full versus Frugal  
edwin.evans wrote:
During typical usage, about how long would you expect an SD Card to last if writing to flash immediately?

I have no idea. But one forum member ran a flash drive in PUPMODE=12 for months with no problems.
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Pelo


Joined: 10 Sep 2011
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Location: Mer méditerrannée (1 kms°)
PostPosted: Fri 28 Dec 2012, 02:07    Post subject: PPM : Do it yourself
Subject description: How to choose dependancies to be installed		  
In ubuntu repositories from PPM, a lot of dependancies have to be installed.
How can i choose which ones. IF i install all, the package is too big.
You, you know what is necessary.
Thanks for help, sirs.
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jpeps

Joined: 31 May 2008
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PostPosted: Fri 28 Dec 2012, 03:55    Post subject: Re: PPM : Do it yourself
Subject description: How to choose dependancies to be installed		  
Pelo wrote:
In ubuntu repositories from PPM, a lot of dependancies have to be installed.
How can i choose which ones. IF i install all, the package is too big.
You, you know what is necessary.
Thanks for help, sirs.


You could just run ldd on the exec and get what you need. I also use PetCheck to eliminate installation of duplicate files.
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FeodorF


Joined: 07 Jul 2010
Posts: 173
Location: Heidelberg, Germany
PostPosted: Wed 25 Sep 2013, 12:14    Post subject:  Hooking up a CAD-CRT to Puppy Precise 5.7.1 [Solved]
Subject description: Black screen after reboot into frugal mode		  
Little story right here.

I have an old CAD CRT (top quality, crystal clear picture) it can display up to 1280x1024x32bit. I tried to get it to work with the Puppy Precise 5.7.1 live CD. The problem occurred right after reboot - running into a black screen with blinking cursor. I had done a frugal install, but it didn't work.

The pupsave file was saved on a USB stick (8GB, FAT32). Using an LED LCD instead of the CRT made a difference - that worked.

After two days I remembered what forum member 'rcrsn51' had said about Barry's marker file for screen detection. 'It needs a partition with Linux id to work properly.'

Yeah! That's what I did today - formated the 8GB USB stick to 'ext3'. (Boy, nobody is perfect!)

...works great now!...

Greetings,
Feodor
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mikeslr


Joined: 16 Jun 2008
Posts: 862
Location: Union New Jersey USA
PostPosted: Wed 05 Mar 2014, 22:03    Post subject: Puppy Linux Window's Installer
Subject description: Easy Install while running Windows		  
Hi All,

I haven't read all the posts on this thread, so I apologize if it's been mentioned before. But as this thread is a "sticky" and one of the first places a beginner will look for information regarding installing Puppy, I thought it to be a good place to provide a link to Shinobar's Puppy Linux Window Installer. Essentially, it's a program you run under windows --95 thru Windows 8, but see the limitation spelled out in the link-- which will install Puppies to your computer and enable you to dual boot both the installed Puppy and your Window OS.http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=462720#462720. Only a few versions of Puppy come in that format. But once one is installed, you can follow the instructions on the following links to add other Puppies and, if you desire, delete Windows (and your initial Puppy) from your hard drives.

http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=762842#762842

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=710157#710157

mikesLr
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EdgarC

Joined: 16 Jul 2014
Posts: 11
PostPosted: Wed 16 Jul 2014, 09:10    Post subject:  
Cant dual boot windows 8 and puppy.

Disabled secure boot and uefi, but still does not work.

What to do?

It keep telling me it did not find a file(which is present, but it like it cant see the the drive)
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