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edwin.evans

Joined: 15 Nov 2012
Posts: 60
PostPosted: Thu 15 Nov 2012, 12:15    Post subject: Confused about implications of full versus Frugal  
I'm confused about the implications of full versus Frugal. I'm installing Puppy on an SD Card and I want file changes to be saved immediately but now it looks like they are saved only once in a while.

Is this because I'm doing the wrong type of install?
Can I do a full install on an SD Card?
What do I need to do to not risk losing changes if the power is killed without any warning?

Thanks!
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rcrsn51


Joined: 05 Sep 2006
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Location: Stratford, Ontario
PostPosted: Thu 15 Nov 2012, 12:29    Post subject: Re: Confused about implications of full versus Frugal  
edwin.evans wrote:
I'm installing Puppy on an SD Card and I want file changes to be saved immediately but now it looks like they are saved only once in a while.

A regular frugal install to a hard drive works in PUPMODE=12. That means that your work is immediately written into the save file.

But devices like flash drives and memory cards work in PUPMODE=13, which only saves periodically. The intent is to minimize writing to the device and extend its life.

However, you can convert your SD setup to PUPMODE=12 using the instructions here.

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Can I do a full install on an SD Card?

No. Puppy doesn't allow that option.
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edwin.evans

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PostPosted: Thu 15 Nov 2012, 12:34    Post subject: Re: Confused about implications of full versus Frugal  
Thanks you! That clears things up a lot.

During typical usage, about how long would you expect an SD Card to last if writing to flash immediately?
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rcrsn51


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PostPosted: Thu 15 Nov 2012, 12:39    Post subject: Re: Confused about implications of full versus Frugal  
edwin.evans wrote:
During typical usage, about how long would you expect an SD Card to last if writing to flash immediately?

I have no idea. But one forum member ran a flash drive in PUPMODE=12 for months with no problems.
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Pelo


Joined: 10 Sep 2011
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Location: Mer méditerrannée (1 kms°)
PostPosted: Fri 28 Dec 2012, 02:07    Post subject: PPM : Do it yourself
Subject description: How to choose dependancies to be installed		  
In ubuntu repositories from PPM, a lot of dependancies have to be installed.
How can i choose which ones. IF i install all, the package is too big.
You, you know what is necessary.
Thanks for help, sirs.
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jpeps

Joined: 31 May 2008
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PostPosted: Fri 28 Dec 2012, 03:55    Post subject: Re: PPM : Do it yourself
Subject description: How to choose dependancies to be installed		  
Pelo wrote:
In ubuntu repositories from PPM, a lot of dependancies have to be installed.
How can i choose which ones. IF i install all, the package is too big.
You, you know what is necessary.
Thanks for help, sirs.


You could just run ldd on the exec and get what you need. I also use PetCheck to eliminate installation of duplicate files.
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FeodorF


Joined: 07 Jul 2010
Posts: 123
Location: Heidelberg, Germany
PostPosted: Wed 25 Sep 2013, 12:14    Post subject:  Hooking up a CAD-CRT to Puppy Precise 5.7.1 [Solved]
Subject description: Black screen after reboot into frugal mode		  
Little story right here.

I have an old CAD CRT (top quality, crystal clear picture) it can display up to 1280x1024x32bit. I tried to get it to work with the Puppy Precise 5.7.1 live CD. The problem occurred right after reboot - running into a black screen with blinking cursor. I had done a frugal install, but it didn't work.

The pupsave file was saved on a USB stick (8GB, FAT32). Using an LED LCD instead of the CRT made a difference - that worked.

After two days I remembered what forum member 'rcrsn51' had said about Barry's marker file for screen detection. 'It needs a partition with Linux id to work properly.'

Yeah! That's what I did today - formated the 8GB USB stick to 'ext3'. (Boy, nobody is perfect!)

...works great now!...

Greetings,
Feodor
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