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dennis-slacko531 · Joined: 18 Jan 2012 Posts: 75 Location: Oregon

FatDog is noticeably faster than Saluki 23 . I just received my used PC this afternoon. Saluki was helpful for about an hour then I booted into FatDog. NICE Surprised

I honestly think people don't know how outdated & unnecessary old PC's are. I'm not selling anything... but maybe you know what I mean... Bottom line, for under $75 it's like a NEW WORLD getting away from my P4 (yikes why did I wait)...

My eBay ideas for those wishing to investigate the round world...
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=82280

UPDATE: I'll try to get some junkers off my site and concentrate more on puppy's. I guess the variety has become counter-productive, but I'm not fully agreeing w/your sage of wisdom, yet.

Sage · Joined: 04 Oct 2005 Posts: 4623 Location: GB

Sending you a set of go-faster stripes in the post. You'll need to speak to your President or your shrink about your lemming-itis and your sense of public duty towards landfill, lack of spirit of ingenuity, &co. Hope you're not in need of a humour transplant, too!

Sage · Joined: 04 Oct 2005 Posts: 4623 Location: GB

Sage · Joined: 04 Oct 2005 Posts: 4623 Location: GB

Managed to free up an HD for an FD610 FULL. Went like clockwork yielding a very nice result, thanks, kirk & jb. Presently got it chained with a Nadia install so I could test the GRUB4DOS re-write for both - no problems there, either.
So far the only niggle is that too short time-out for searching wifi. On second thoughts, can't distinguish whether it's too short or just failing on first ask?
Not important, probably my misunderstanding, pfix=ram, nox prior to installing yields the prompt but xorgwizard not available (somebody say that already?) so only X option is xwin. Gives correct video detection on several machines so not an issue.
This control Panel is the best of the lot; should suit the 'doze refugees.

prehistoric · Joined: 23 Oct 2007 Posts: 1210

Just ran a test of 610 again on another machine, while I was browsing this topic, to make sure I was right about something others were missing.

On a machine with an fd64save.ext4 file in the base directory of the file system "pfix=ram" does not prevent the save file from being loaded. Sage avoids this only by not having a save file, not because the pfix flag stops loading. "savefile=none" does prevent loading.
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On the subject of video graphics, please, don't load the KMS module until it is clear that you need it. Leave a route people can use to install a proprietary nVidia driver if there are no acceptable open source drivers.

When I was working with Gentoo there were always open source wrappers for nVidia proprietary drivers we could compile even as kernels evolved. Has this changed?

I would prefer complete open source drivers, but I'm not going to pretend these are keeping pace with changes nVidia introduces. ATI provides enough information for developers. nVidia may not.

There may also be problems with Matrox drivers, though it has been a while since I've fooled with these.

kirk · Joined: 11 Nov 2005 Posts: 1333 Location: florida

kirk · Joined: 11 Nov 2005 Posts: 1333 Location: florida

Fatdog64-611 is uploaded. See the first post for details.

Sage · Joined: 04 Oct 2005 Posts: 4623 Location: GB

LateAdopter · Joined: 27 May 2011 Posts: 120 Location: Reading UK

Hello Kirk

I have just done a new install of fd611.

There is this error on bootup, but it seems not fatal. I think it has been mentioned before, but fd610 does not have it.

smokey01 · Joined: 30 Dec 2006 Posts: 1605 Location: South Australia

I can confirm the same error on bootup.

Sage · Joined: 04 Oct 2005 Posts: 4623 Location: GB

611:
Now getting list of video cards after pfix=ram,nox but hitting 'SiS' yields 'cancelled' - but the default still works (mesa?).
Still need two hits on scan to get a positive detection on wireless.
Otherwise, OK.
Haven't attempted FULL, yet, was enquiring about deltas?

smokey01 · Joined: 30 Dec 2006 Posts: 1605 Location: South Australia

In /usr/sbin/net-setup.sh at line 299, change the word icon to stock

<input file stock=\"gtk-quit\"></input>

to fix the Exit icon problem.

prehistoric · Joined: 23 Oct 2007 Posts: 1210

kirk · Joined: 11 Nov 2005 Posts: 1333 Location: florida

prehistoric,

James has made a couple Nvidia pet packages for 610/611 of the proprietary Nvidia driver, they're in the repo. That would be the recommend way to go. Check first that your card is supported by the versions that James has labeled the pet packages with.

Also Nvidia provides a installer in a .run package, though I haven't tried that for a while. If it still works with Fatdog64 you'll need the devx file attached so it can compile it's kernel module.

smokey01,

Thanks for the fix.

prehistoric · Joined: 23 Oct 2007 Posts: 1210

Kirk,

Thanks for clarifying that. I was afraid there was some policy decision of avoiding them in the future. For myself, I have an adequate solution at present with an off-board card from ATI. I won't go back and fight battles with the embedded nVidia graphics unless you need this tested.

You might want to better document the availability of those pets for people who only get to a desktop by using VESA, to let them know this is not a dead end.