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PostPosted: Tue 11 Dec 2012, 08:21    Post_subject:  

Hello.

Here are some news on LazY Puppy.

LazImUL Image uploader doesn't work any longer, because imgur.com has changed the API version. API Key in LazImUL is not longer usable to upload images to imgur.com.

I have tried to create an account to get a new API Key, but this isn't that easy. It's now needed to register the application that uses the API Key. I don't want to do this.

If you want to use LazImUL in the future, you'll have to get your own API Key. I won't and I'll remove LazImUL from my private version and also on new releases of LazY Puppy. I will not write applications for web services again in the future, because they won't last/work for long and so, to me, it's a waste of time to write such applications.

For those, who remaster LazY Puppy and want to remove LazImUL: it is installed in /usr/local. You have also to remove the .desktop file and its symbolic link in /usr/share/applications and in /usr/share/applications-desktop-files/applications

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PostPosted: Tue 11 Dec 2012, 20:38    Post_subject: LazY use without save file  

Hi

Lazy is one of the most complete Puplets with his adapted SFS packages.

I find I don't need some save file and will just remaster my version so that some minimal private settings and data are included in /root and /etc (added manually by me) and in my mother language (egal what a language) to make exactly the same like in English or German.

And I will not be bothered by some little windows at the start (it is completely silly dilly: we did wish us a system starting fast from CD-Rom without to need the two usual easy little steps login / password but accept to pass different little windows for questions being to be in a menu on demand - Ich meine, es sei absurd, ein mini-Linux zu erschaffen, wo man sich beide kleinen Schritte der an sich vorteilhaften Login- und Passworteingabe erspart, und akzeptiert auf der anderen Seite, zwangsweise von kleinen Fensterchen bei Start und Verlassen des Systems belästigt zu werden, die an sich klassische Menü-Punkte sind oder sein sollten!).

Next point: I did see a lot of helpings figures to manage and convert packages. Is eventually one function available to automatic convert all added files of a session into a SFS (I did not recognize some one till yet)?

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PostPosted: Wed 12 Dec 2012, 09:21    Post_subject:  

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Is eventually one function available to automatic convert all added files of a session into a SFS (I did not recognize some one till yet)?

Hello oui.

Could you explain this?

What kind of files?

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Ich meine, es sei absurd, ein mini-Linux zu erschaffen, wo man sich beide kleinen Schritte der an sich vorteilhaften Login- und Passworteingabe erspart, und akzeptiert auf der anderen Seite, zwangsweise von kleinen Fensterchen bei Start und Verlassen des Systems belästigt zu werden, die an sich klassische Menü-Punkte sind oder sein sollten!).

The welcome GUI is file /root/Startup/zz_run_lazyinfo. You can move this to /root/Startup/off - if wanted.

Anything else?

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Lazy is one of the most complete Puplets with his adapted SFS packages.

Thank you very much.

RSH

P.S.

Please note the Update and BugFix files at second post of this thread. SFS List is incomplete by now. Have to add some new files to this list - later, later, later! Laughing

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PostPosted: Wed 12 Dec 2012, 14:47    Post_subject:  

Hi Rainer

RSH wrote:
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Is eventually one function available to automatic convert all added files of a session into a SFS (I did not recognize some one till yet)?

Hello oui.

Could you explain this?

What kind of files?


the old definition of remastering from Puppy according Dougal were:

pup_ro2 + new files without new files from etc (check pls /etc new files!) = new_puplet

the definition of new SFS-package would be:

new files with/without new files from etc (and check pls /etc new files) [BUILD] new_SFS

(= the same, without / over pup_ro2)

RSH wrote:
The welcome GUI is file /root/Startup/zz_run_lazyinfo. You can move this to /root/Startup/off - if wanted.

Anything else?


how to turn off the creation of save file (it is THE bad question you can't really pass... the welcome, you can forget them! It looks bad, but it works! An error with the save file and

you have a real chaos

shutting down, nothing works more as usual...

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PostPosted: Fri 14 Dec 2012, 11:52    Post_subject:  

You want to shutdown/reboot each and every time without to be asked if you want to save to a save file?

If so, tell me. I'll try to edit the file and send it to you. So, you could do then a new remastered never-save-to-save-file-version.

The "pup_ro2" stuff isn't that easy for me to do. Need to do some research, first --> but do not have time for that within the next weeks.

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PostPosted: Fri 14 Dec 2012, 19:16    Post_subject:  

Hello.

What would you think about an option to keep LazY Puppy automatically updated?

No need to search the LazY Puppy thread for attached update .pet files. Just booting LazY Puppy, connecting to the web (if not already done at boot up sequence) and getting a GUI offering the latest files to download and install by a single mouse click. Also getting online information to the selected update .pet, to be well informed.

Wouldn't that be nice?

So, here it is! The LazY Puppy EsOnU - Easy Online Updater!

After installing the .pet you can do two actions to get this to run:

1. Restart X, it then will be executed from /root/Startup and tries to get connection to directory LazY-Puppy/Updates and LazY-Puppy/Updates/Information. This is for 1 minute every 10 seconds. If successfully connected to the web, the GUI will offer two .pet files

2. Go to menu LazY Puppy and click "LazY Puppy Easy Online Updater" to run this. If successfully connected to the web, the GUI will offer two .pet files

The two .pet Files are empty. They have been uploaded to show how it works. Clicking on "Info" shows Online Information to the selected .pet. The buttons names are telling it all.

After installing these .pet files and exiting the Auto-Update GUI it will give message on restart, that all provided updates are already installed ---> this is kept on a new remaster (save file too).

And best of all:

This should be work also in other puppies (maybe except Fatdog64?) and therefor might be a very useful addition for puppy derivative developers, that could provide downloads using "wget" like it is possible on smokey01.com.

The Files are in /usr/local/LazY-Automated-Update. By having a look into that directory you'll see immediately which files to modify (easy, very easy) to use this one for your own needs.

Any Questions? Post it.

RSH
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PostPosted: Fri 14 Dec 2012, 23:58    Post_subject:  

oui wrote:
how to turn off the creation of save file (it is THE bad question you can't really pass

Hello oui.

Today I've disabled the part of the creation of the save file. No more save file is saved, no more question about saving to a save file is asked.

After rebooting a few times during the day, I must say: this is a really nice feature!

I really like this. In fact that much, that I've decided to make this default in the next LazY Puppy Version. Though, I will keep the original file, for users who want to revert this.

But:

When LazY Puppy 2.0.2 Build 0.0.4 is released, I will not continue support for LazY Puppy if using a save file.

Only for LazY Puppy and the SFS files because: LazY Puppy is a SFS Puppy! Very Happy

Thanks for the intellectual impetus.

RSH

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PostPosted: Sat 15 Dec 2012, 05:32    Post_subject:  

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You want Knoppix with english menu and no Deustch voice? Then get the english iso for the DVD version. I know it is huge. I don't download it. I get it off Linux Magazine cover disk. The latest Knoppix version is on the current issue - although I guess it might not be available in Thailand.

To start the CD version without the voice it is necessary to boot as knoppix knoppix and not the default knoppix adriane.

The Knoppix DVD is always a good standby when Puppy does not have quite what you want - like Frozen Bubble!


I found that mag at the airport last year, with Puppy5 (Lupu?), cost ~ 400 baht. Believe it's also available at Central Chidlom. But I do not urgently need it as someone who is so afraid of Doomday & Armageddon, perhaps next year I will go to Chatujak to get it at 50 baht or less. :-/

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PostPosted: Sat 15 Dec 2012, 05:33    Post_subject:  

Lieber Herr RSH;
Many thanks for your advices.
Of course I will report any problem I found here.
I had remastered LaZyPuppy Osiris with Puppy remaster twice. And it had boot up to
/usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/displaylink_drv.so.not
and then could not find xorg library.
But I have just seen that there's LaZyPuppy remaster too. hehehehe
Now I know how to make a new LaZyPuppy to work only with my computer, but I still prefer zdrv.sfs because it's much easier to load sfs from menu than to input the name of sfs at booting. Why don't you offer option to have zdrv or not to have, so the user can choose according to their style. Wish to have zdrv.sfs option in your next LaZyPuppy.
The extended and special option is very interesting too but I need some times to understand it.
After remaster I found LaZyPuppy remaster work very well. It has carried all the new config. of applications. Wink.
I had unkeep Fbpanel and Openbox, but they are still exist in the remaster version.

After download of nearly 300 MB of required sfs, Sciplore can now be installed. I had seen this software for many years but now I have to left it behind because I don't know how to work with it. Sad

Yes I had set run action for midi to play with TiMIdity. But I would like to add the whole folder of midi in one click instead of clicking one by one. And Rox filer doesn't have function to add multiple files to the playlist in the RC menu.

Don't trust any Republican, a lot of Illuminatis are there. Good news, I'd just got the Supreme message last month, the Illuminati network worldwide, ~3,000, is going to be destroyed soon. Smile
Viele dank.

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PostPosted: Sun 16 Dec 2012, 03:08    Post_subject:  

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I had remastered LaZyPuppy Osiris with Puppy remaster twice. And it had boot up to
/usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/displaylink_drv.so.not
and then could not find xorg library.

Don't use this in LazY Puppy. I'll remove this on next version.

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But I have just seen that there's LaZyPuppy remaster too. hehehehe

Yes, hehehehe. Do use this! Laughing

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I still prefer zdrv.sfs because it's much easier to load sfs from menu than to input the name of sfs at booting.

Yes, to input a name is not really comfortable. But a menu list to select a boot configuration is very comfortable. This could be done using grub or grub4dos or multipup cd/dvd. Smile

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Wish to have zdrv.sfs option in your next LaZyPuppy.

I'll try to put in an option to choose (check box) inside the LazY Remaster GUI. But if the zdrv.sfs is created and in use, the boot options will not be usable at same boot process. Exclamation

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I had unkeep Fbpanel and Openbox, but they are still exist in the remaster version.

These check boxes do not remove fbpanel or openbox from remaster. This is usable to update the config files of fbpanel and openbox at remaster and to put these updated files into the new remaster.

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After download of nearly 300 MB of required sfs, Sciplore can now be installed. I had seen this software for many years but now I have to left it behind because I don't know how to work with it.

Glad to hear, it works. Unfortunately I did never use this program. So, I don't know how to use this as well.

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Yes I had set run action for midi to play with TiMIdity. But I would like to add the whole folder of midi in one click instead of clicking one by one. And Rox filer doesn't have function to add multiple files to the playlist in the RC menu.

I'll try to work this out and post a solution, if possible.

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I don't trust anybody. I'm a divorced man.

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PostPosted: Wed 26 Dec 2012, 18:44    Post_subject:  

Hello.

From now on the Function to use the LazY Puppy Easy Online Updater will be activated. It is strongly recommended to install the attached .pet file. Either installing when using a personal storage file or downloading and installing into a fresh and clean system (RAM, NO save file) (RECOMMENED!!!).

LazY Puppy will inform then automatically on available future Upgrades, Updates and Fixes - if connected to the internet, after the X-Desktop is loaded.

Otherwise use menu LazY Puppy, entry: LazY Puppy Easy Online Updater.

RSH

Note!

After installing this Upgrade, do not install any of my applications from the forum. These programs are older versions now!

Edit:

When remastering LazY Puppy make sure directory /root/Downloads/Updates is copied to /tmp/root/Downloads/. This is the download and also install directory of hte LazY Puppy Updates.

When using a save file, directory Updates is kept automatically.
Build-LP2-004.pet
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PostPosted: Wed 02 Jan 2013, 13:42    Post_subject:  

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After installing this Upgrade, do not install any of my applications from the forum. These programs are older versions now!


Heisst das nun besser nicht updaten, weil sonst die ganzen proggis nicht mehr laufen? Versteh ich nicht?

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PostPosted: Thu 03 Jan 2013, 07:50    Post_subject:  

@ RSH
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PostPosted: Thu 03 Jan 2013, 08:09    Post_subject:  

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LazY-Automated-Update : thank you for this handy utility, I tested with two french versions of Puppy (Toutou Linux 431 & ASRI Edu 300), everything works.

Two questions:
1 - Is it possible to modify the script to update the list of available packages as soon as new package is installed (without having to restart the GUI). Because, when there is a large number of available updates (which is the case for older versions of Puppy), the user might not know what he has installed in the list of available updates.

2 - Is it possible to allow the user to automatically install several packages? In this case, my first question would not be useful.
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PostPosted: Thu 03 Jan 2013, 13:55    Post_subject:  

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LazY-Automated-Update : thank you for this handy utility, I tested with two french versions of Puppy (Toutou Linux 431 & ASRI Edu 300), everything works.

Two questions:
1 - Is it possible to modify the script to update the list of available packages as soon as new package is installed (without having to restart the GUI). Because, when there is a large number of available updates (which is the case for older versions of Puppy), the user might not know what he has installed in the list of available updates.

2 - Is it possible to allow the user to automatically install several packages? In this case, my first question would not be useful.


No not nooooow, no not nooooow, no not nooooow, no not nooooow.

Maybe later, maybe lateeeer.


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oh, sorry. FZ lyrics... Laughing

Yes, this is a handy utility - especially for the use in LazY Puppy.

I don't know, if I can do what you suggest, because this is intended only for new updates and not for older versions of .pet files etc.pp.

To build especially update .pet files I do use a modified version of (dir2pet, makepet). For normal .pet files, I use normal 'makepet'. For update .pet files, I use special 'makepet-web' application.

The 'makepet-web' application creates a .pet as usual. It also creates pinstall.sh script and two text files, one named as the .pet (plus .info.txt) and another also named as the .pet (plus .info-de.txt).

If there is already a pinstall.sh script, it combines the existing pinstall.sh script with its pinstall.sh output script.

The two .txt files including a string, made to show information about the .pet in a Xdialog GUI (to read info online before installing).

If I do create a screenshot manually, named as the .pet (plus .screenshot.jpg), then I can present also screenshots before installing.

The created pinstall.sh script marks the .pet as installed by creating a simple and empty .txt file, named as the .pet (plus .txt) in /usr/local/LazY-Automated-Update/installed. Files found there will be excluded from the GUI at next search for updates.

That's all.

I have now worked for about 16 Months almost every day several hours and sometimes up to 40 hours in a row. I think, I need a break. I have to take a break.

A long term break from coding, working on the forum and also working on LazY Puppy. This might take a few months where I have to do different stuff from puppy - except: I want to use LazY Puppy, finally, within these break from coding etc.

So, we will see, when I'm back.

I have uploaded today LazY Puppy 2.0.2 build 0.0.5 DE, but can't build the English ISO. English users have to wait for 0.0.5 EN until I'm back also.

The same on LazY FReD.

Sorry, but currently there's nothing I can do.

RSH

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Thanks for the french locales.

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