LazY Puppy 2.0.2 Final - a Paradise Puppy

For talk and support relating specifically to Puppy derivatives
Message
Author
User avatar
RSH
Posts: 2397
Joined: Mon 05 Sep 2011, 14:21
Location: Germany

#441 Post by RSH »

Hi nooby.

Here are the answers to your questions in the SFS P.L.U.S. thread. Please post here if you are using LazY Puppy and its SFS P.L.U.S., because it is different to the version in the other thread. Just to make sure, I'm not confusing some users because of giving the right information in the wrong thread.
There is nothing there to do that so I have to install SFS plus then?
For to do that part? But did you not warn about not installing SFS pluse
to Lazy 003? It is already available as sfs most likely?
But then I should look for it in menu? Okay I take a look
No. Don't install SFS P.L.U.S. into LazY Puppy - since it has its own (the first and most forwarded) version.
Seems I have to set the MenuSuite password to off for advanced?
Because I don't know the password
To use LazY Puppy's SFS P.L.U.S. there is no need to use the menu suite. Menus suite is only for working on the menu and the user modes. However: password is LazYPuppy2. It is mentioned at the LazY Puppy Thread's first page.
Using the sfs pet to sfs it gives this error code

'tar -xf spotify-0.8.4.10329695.tar.gz' failed in
/root with error code 2.
This could be a result of doing it on a FAT or FAT32 partition. For small .pet files do it in RAM, for big files do it on a EXT partition (NTFS should work also - but I recommend EXT).
I tried to take a screen shot but that one say it can not save it
to the screenshot dir at mydocuments.
What application did you use to make screenshot?
My Net book only have 1GB and that process needed more?
Usually 1GB should be enough RAM for files sized up to 100MB (relates on what you have already loaded). For bigger files do it on a EXT partition (read above again).

Ooops am I supposed to remaster Lazy 003 before I use sfs PLUS?
NO. NO. NO.

You don't have to remaster LazY Puppy to use SFS P.L.U.S. Only reason to remaster LazY Puppy is: you want to have some new created RunScripts in the system for the use without a save file. Just for this use do a remaster (what I recommend instead of using a save file). But you can use it exactly the same way using a save file.
Sorry I am very poor at reading much text and to remember what to do.
I drown in all the details and don't remember them.
I'm a poor writer of text, so it's needed to remember either the information given to you or the post wherein the information was given. Use bookmarks of your browser or (as I do) use a notepad (text file) to save links etc.
You wrote
Quote:

To learn the SFS P.L.U.S. thing
I will upload a .pet for you (and other users),
that would work in LazY and Lucid as well.


Does that mean it works without having to remaster that os?
Yes.

Again (to make sure it's not getting lost): You don't have to remaster LazY Puppy to use SFS P.L.U.S. Only reason to remaster LazY Puppy is: you want to have some new created RunScripts in the system for the use without a save file. Just for this use do a remaster (what I recommend instead of using a save file). But you can use it exactly the same way using a save file.

---

I hope I did not overseen any question.

RSH

Note:

The .pet files for learning SFS P.L.U.S. are uploaded in the other thread.


Edit:
So the best would be if you make a good linux version of Spotify
as the one you did for Dpup Exprimo as I remember???
Spotify SFS is uploaded to mediafire http://www.mediafire.com/?4ihmr67hs9uoaew and, NO, I did NOT make the Spotify for Dpup Exprimo.
[b][url=http://lazy-puppy.weebly.com]LazY Puppy[/url][/b]
[b][url=http://rshs-dna.weebly.com]RSH's DNA[/url][/b]
[url=http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=91422][b]SARA B.[/b][/url]

nooby
Posts: 10369
Joined: Sun 29 Jun 2008, 19:05
Location: SwedenEurope

#442 Post by nooby »

Thanks. I am too active in your threads so I will slow down
and look into this later.

Just now I use lupu528-005 and a Spotify pet instead
due to the shut down problem with sfs. Not your fault
it is the makers of Spotify that has added behind the screen
programs that work like a kind of shared servers so
each computer with spotify is the server sort of.
that is why they can load that music that fast.

Like seeding in Torrent and the pet manage to shut down
this server while the sfs fail to shut down it so it is impossible
to get it going again because it never shut down.

So I have to work around it by using pet instead for sfs.

Your SFS Plus worked good with Firefox
I use Google Search on Puppy Forum
not an ideal solution though

User avatar
RSH
Posts: 2397
Joined: Mon 05 Sep 2011, 14:21
Location: Germany

#443 Post by RSH »

Hi.

In the German forum we have reached a state that could be called: finished or mission accomplished. :D

The last two problems are solved (to get local printer and network printer to run and work), thanks to a post by rcrsn51 in the German forum. 8)

So, LazY Puppy 2.0.2 Final Build 0.0.3, will now be used as OS by a German Teacher for education in CNC and Programs like EMC2, QCAD (and some stuff like that) at the Realschule Lemgo, in Germany. LazY Puppy: a Puppy OS for Schools, now.

This is the result of fifteen (15) months of constantly research and hard work. Eight ( 8 ) months have been spent to the LazY Puppy SFS P.L.U.S. and stuff that comes around at this time, like the LazY Remaster Suite and the LazY Puppy boot options etc.pp.

Sometimes working 40 hours in a row (and sometimes some more) without any sleep and then, after this, unable to work for two days (just sleep, eat & watch TV or listen to music).

It was designated in the German forum as: "One of the first Puppies that comes with really new functions and not just only a new name and wallpaper."

I'm proud a little and really glad about this current state of LazY Puppy, so, I just want to keep everyone informed.

RSH
[b][url=http://lazy-puppy.weebly.com]LazY Puppy[/url][/b]
[b][url=http://rshs-dna.weebly.com]RSH's DNA[/url][/b]
[url=http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=91422][b]SARA B.[/b][/url]

User avatar
oldyeller
Posts: 889
Joined: Tue 15 Nov 2011, 14:26
Location: Alaska

#444 Post by oldyeller »

RSH wrote:Hi.

In the German forum we have reached a state that could be called: finished or mission accomplished. :D

The last two problems are solved (to get local printer and network printer to run and work), thanks to a post by rcrsn51 in the German forum. 8)

So, LazY Puppy 2.0.2 Final Build 0.0.3, will now be used as OS by a German Teacher for education in CNC and Programs like EMC2, QCAD (and some stuff like that) at the Realschule Lemgo, in Germany. LazY Puppy: a Puppy OS for Schools, now.

This is the result of fifteen (15) months of constantly research and hard work. Eight ( 8 ) months have been spent to the LazY Puppy SFS P.L.U.S. and stuff that comes around at this time, like the LazY Remaster Suite and the LazY Puppy boot options etc.pp.

Sometimes working 40 hours in a row (and sometimes some more) without any sleep and then, after this, unable to work for two days (just sleep, eat & watch TV or listen to music).

It was designated in the German forum as: "One of the first Puppies that comes with really new functions and not just only a new name and wallpaper."

I'm proud a little and really glad about this current state of LazY Puppy, so, I just want to keep everyone informed.

RSH
fantastic job my friend keep it up and do get some rest that is important you know. When will we have it in en or is it done already.

Cheers

User avatar
RSH
Posts: 2397
Joined: Mon 05 Sep 2011, 14:21
Location: Germany

#445 Post by RSH »

fantastic job my friend keep it up and do get some rest that is important you know. When will we have it in en or is it done already.
Thanks.

Currently it is the downloadable version of LazY Puppy 2.0.2 Build 0.0.3 plus this PET for Update.

Then there is one more program to work out and some documentation stuff to release. After this all I will upload Build 0.0.4. I think, it will also be a bit smaller in its size.

I have made a request to a forums admin to get the German LazY Puppy thread "sticky", which is needed (imho) and wanted for the upcoming online documentation of LazY Puppy. Also, I'm convinced, we have now earned to get this German thread sticky, after this hard and 15 months long work to build this LazY Puppy.

I'm now (on tomorrow) in my "LazY Puppy Holidays" and will return next year. I will then continue my work and maybe at the end of Feb. 2012 a Build 0.0.4 will be ready for download.

Greetings

RSH

Wow. That was really fast. The German LazY Puppy thread is sticky now! :D
[b][url=http://lazy-puppy.weebly.com]LazY Puppy[/url][/b]
[b][url=http://rshs-dna.weebly.com]RSH's DNA[/url][/b]
[url=http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=91422][b]SARA B.[/b][/url]

User avatar
RSH
Posts: 2397
Joined: Mon 05 Sep 2011, 14:21
Location: Germany

#446 Post by RSH »

Poll added!
[b][url=http://lazy-puppy.weebly.com]LazY Puppy[/url][/b]
[b][url=http://rshs-dna.weebly.com]RSH's DNA[/url][/b]
[url=http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=91422][b]SARA B.[/b][/url]

backi
Posts: 1922
Joined: Sun 27 Feb 2011, 22:00
Location: GERMANY

#447 Post by backi »

HI RSH !

Tested PaDS tool today (first time ) .

Cool app . Makes live a lot easier ( ..as it should be )

Should have tested it earlier before ...

Thanks !!

keniv
Posts: 583
Joined: Tue 06 Oct 2009, 21:00
Location: Scotland

#448 Post by keniv »

Hello All

I did a manual frugal install of Lazy 202-en-003 to an ntfs partition on the hd of my old Toshiba laptop (800MHz 320MB). I have XP and a number of Puppys including 528-005, Slacko 54, and Precise 541 nop on this drive. I boot these using grub which is on a small ext3 partition. This works well. I also have the same Puppys on a usb flash drive with one fat32 partition and I boot them with grub4dos. After booting Lazy for the first time and making a save file I get a problem on the second boot. The shutdown buttons don't work. I can shutdown with ctrl-alt-bksp then poweroff. I have also found the timed shutdown works. Have tried with ext2 and ext3 save files. This is only a problem with the the usb drive. I wonder if you have any ideas as to what could cause this and perhaps a solution?

Regards,

Ken.

User avatar
RSH
Posts: 2397
Joined: Mon 05 Sep 2011, 14:21
Location: Germany

#449 Post by RSH »

Hello Ken.

If you do install on ntfs partition and do use a save file this can cause problems if the ntfs partition is fragmented. To install on ntfs and create a save file on ntfs it is recommended to use windows "defrag" application at first (don't know its name). I do use generally USB Stick formatted to FAT32.

No one has ever posted shutdown problems on LazY Puppy build 002 or even build 003 - except a user who has installed a shutdown gui and did crush the LazY Puppy shutdown gui from that install.

Sorry to hear that.

What did you use for shutdown? Menu, Wbar Icon?

Would you please tell me the results after the recommnded work on the ntfs is done and LazY Puppy is installed again?

Thanks.
[b][url=http://lazy-puppy.weebly.com]LazY Puppy[/url][/b]
[b][url=http://rshs-dna.weebly.com]RSH's DNA[/url][/b]
[url=http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=91422][b]SARA B.[/b][/url]

keniv
Posts: 583
Joined: Tue 06 Oct 2009, 21:00
Location: Scotland

#450 Post by keniv »

Hello RSH

Thanks for your reply. I do not have a problem with the shutdown on the ntfs partition on my hd. The shutdown works flawlessly. I have defraged this hd but as I rarely use the copy of XP on it does not get fragmented quickly and as I said Lazy shuts down with no problems. The problem occurs when booting from a flash drive formated as fat32. This drive has only the four versions of Puppy previously mentioned plus grub4dos. All other versions of puppy shutdown as normal. With Lazy after first boot the shutdown works (I used the wbar icon). On pressing the button the dialog box appears and if I press the shutdown button the shutdown procedure starts and I am given the option to make a savefile. I have tried both ext2 and ext3 and various sizes of savefiles. However on next boot all seems well. My personal settings have been saved etc. However when I try to shutdown and press the wbar icon nothing happens. This is also the case with the icon in the tray and the menu. If I choose timed shutdown and set it to a minute this appears to work as after a short time a dialog box appears which counts down 30 seconds and the system shuts down as normal. I thought that this had something to do with the savefile on the flash drive. However I have also tried a copy of the working savefile from the hd but when this is transferred to the flashdrive shutdown still does not work. I have also tried booting a number of different machines from the flashdrive. All seemed to boot up as normal but again shutdown does not work. I hope this better explains the problem.

Regards,

Ken.

User avatar
RSH
Posts: 2397
Joined: Mon 05 Sep 2011, 14:21
Location: Germany

#451 Post by RSH »

Hi Ken.

Sorry for misunderstanding you the first time.

So, if your are booting from USB Flash and using a save file, the shutdown GUI offers a menu, wherein one can select to shutdown with saving to save file or to shutdown without saving to save file.

Would you please try this, and tell me the results.

I do use LazY Puppy generally from USB flash (FAT32). At home to 100% without the use of a save file, in my drumming room I do use a 512 MB save file. And it shuts down each and every time very well.

I'm currently not at home, so I can't make any tests on this. But will try on tomorrow. Would you please also check md5sum of downloaded ISO?

md5sum of LazY Puppy 2.0.2 Final Build 0.0.3: ffedb40dabea61f25cb461fb47fed626

RSH
[b][url=http://lazy-puppy.weebly.com]LazY Puppy[/url][/b]
[b][url=http://rshs-dna.weebly.com]RSH's DNA[/url][/b]
[url=http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=91422][b]SARA B.[/b][/url]

User avatar
the last saviour
Posts: 175
Joined: Tue 13 Jul 2010, 12:41
Location: Thailand

#452 Post by the last saviour »

Hi all;
If you got any problem with Pwidget, just delete Space_Puppy_filesystem. Then it will be a good Pwidget.

Lieber Herr RSH;
Thanks for your advices.
I will download those files and test SciPlore again.
I think DeadBeef 4.1-1 should be DeadBeef 0.4.1.
I am very confused with Lash audio & Jack audio recording studio. There're Jack Rack in both studio, but different version.
After Lash audio & Jack audio sfs. are installed, some applications need to be installed whereas some applications need not. And Lash audio recording studio.sfs can't be unloaded.
Please let me know how to set midi to run in both studio. I can play midi only with TiMidity.
I also found TiMidity wouldn't work after Lash audio is loaded.
With Osiris I can't remaster LazyPuppy. It will boot until ../root/.xint.... and cannot find xorg library!!!!
Viele dank.
My people are somebody who will move to crowded city because I have promised them the refuge in the big UFO station.
Now I'd found at least 5 aliens who live in Thailand. They are from Triangular constellation.

User avatar
RSH
Posts: 2397
Joined: Mon 05 Sep 2011, 14:21
Location: Germany

#453 Post by RSH »

Hi.
I think DeadBeef 4.1-1 should be DeadBeef 0.4.1.
Thanks for the info. I will check this.
After Lash audio & Jack audio sfs. are installed, some applications need to be installed whereas some applications need not. And Lash audio recording studio.sfs can't be unloaded.
You can't use the LashAudiostudio and the JackAudioStudio together.
LazY Puppy Guides wrote:LazY Puppy 2.0.2 Final - Lash Audiostudio
All programs of Lash Audiostudio, there are 18, are stored in a single SFS File, LP2_LashStudio431.sfs. These programs are in menu Multimedia - Lash Audio Recording Studio.

All programs of Lash Audiostudio are only tested if they would run. I did never use any program of Lash Audiostudio, so i can't tell if they would work in general. It is therefor recommended to use Lash Audiostudio only in so-called Live-User-Mode and/or only on the use of a specific personal storage file (save file).
I did choose to add the LashAudiostudio to LazY Puppy after I found it mentioned in a post by "nancy reagan". I think I will remove this in the future.
I also found TiMidity wouldn't work after Lash audio is loaded.
Would you please post every information on any SFS files you've found that did not work together, please, in this here forum?

The reason why I did choose to use SFS files instead of installing is: I can use programs from SFS that would not work if installed, because of conflicting libs etc.pp. But they work from SFS if NOT trying to load and use them together.

LazY Puppy has option to add such information to any LazY Puppy SFS. The so-called "nogo-dependencies. If an SFS "knows" its "nogo-dependencies" the RunScript usually offers information gui and option to unload conflicting SFS before loading the new one. But these information must be "known" by the SFS files.

If you do a right-click on a SFS you can "Add dependencies". Within this action one can also add the "nogo-dependencies". After adding the nogo-dependencies and (needed) creating a new RunScript this should work.

Please post such found conflicting SFS files, so, I can prepare them with this info for a later upload and therefor more comfortable use for any user.

I can't check each and every SFS file against each and every SFS file - Time, you know.

Thanks for the info.

RSH
[b][url=http://lazy-puppy.weebly.com]LazY Puppy[/url][/b]
[b][url=http://rshs-dna.weebly.com]RSH's DNA[/url][/b]
[url=http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=91422][b]SARA B.[/b][/url]

User avatar
RSH
Posts: 2397
Joined: Mon 05 Sep 2011, 14:21
Location: Germany

#454 Post by RSH »

Look also to the above post.
Please let me know how to set midi to run in both studio. I can play midi only with TiMidity.
To play MIDI files I do use only TiMidity. Did not found another solution yet.

What I've done in my private Version to listen MIDI with TiMidity:

Rightclicked a .mid file and set a new default action for this file type. I choose the RunScript of TiMidity. So, if I click a .mid file, TiMidity sfs will load and after loaded and TiMidity is executed, it plays the file.

I did set a symbolic link in /root/.config/rox.sourceforge.net/OpenWith/.audio_midi to the RunScript for the use of TiMidity to play .mid files in background. But I've had to edit the TiMidity for this action.

I can upload the edited TiMidity sfs and post the files tomorrow or maybe in few days (I'm not at home currently), if wanted. Let me know.



For remastering:
earlier the last saviour wrote:I'm glad to be the first who downlod LaZy Puppy from Mediafire, which is very fast.
also earlier the last saviour wrote:The remaster function is OK
What did happen? Please tell me the exactly name of the downloaded ISO file. Did you install this Update?

RSH
[b][url=http://lazy-puppy.weebly.com]LazY Puppy[/url][/b]
[b][url=http://rshs-dna.weebly.com]RSH's DNA[/url][/b]
[url=http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=91422][b]SARA B.[/b][/url]

keniv
Posts: 583
Joined: Tue 06 Oct 2009, 21:00
Location: Scotland

#455 Post by keniv »

Hi RSH

I do not get the shutdown GUI by clicking on the wbar button, tray button or the menu shutdown. Nothing happens when I click on any of the above. The timed shutdown does work and during shutdown with this I am given the option to shutdown with saving to save file or to shutdown without saving to save file. I had checked the md5sum and it was correct. However I thought it was possible it had become corrupted so I have rechecked and it is still correct. The iso I downloaded is called LazyPuppy-202-EN-003.iso. I am beginning to wonder if it could be something to do with the manual frugal install. However, I installed it to my hd in the same way the only difference being that I am booting a frugal install on an ntfs file system from grub on a small ext3 partition on the hd whereas with the flashdrive I am using grub4dos to boot a frugal install on a fat32 file system. I can't see how this could affect shutdown. I have thought of trying an install to a fresh flashdrive using the installer to see if this works. Thanks for your help with this.

Regards,

Ken.

User avatar
RSH
Posts: 2397
Joined: Mon 05 Sep 2011, 14:21
Location: Germany

#456 Post by RSH »

I do not get the shutdown GUI by clicking on the wbar button, tray button or the menu shutdown. Nothing happens when I click on any of the above. The timed shutdown does work and during shutdown with this I am given the option to shutdown with saving to save file or to shutdown without saving to save file.
OK. I can not see any reason for this, because it seems to work from hd and I do use generally USB Stick, which works for me each and every time.

But I do not use grub4dos to boot from USB Stick. I do remember of some issues using grub4dos to boot from USB Stick, in the German forum, some weeks ago.

I will search for this post and checking everything using LazY Puppy and English Desktop. Must do this at home, because I do not have LazY Puppy 2.0.2 Build 0.0.3 here. It's an older version.

I'll be back for this maybe later tonight or tomorrow.

RSH

Edit:

Would you please post a clean desktop (no program opened) screenshot?
[b][url=http://lazy-puppy.weebly.com]LazY Puppy[/url][/b]
[b][url=http://rshs-dna.weebly.com]RSH's DNA[/url][/b]
[url=http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=91422][b]SARA B.[/b][/url]

User avatar
8-bit
Posts: 3406
Joined: Wed 04 Apr 2007, 03:37
Location: Oregon

#457 Post by 8-bit »

Your poll is not covering all options!
If for instance I was loading the libreoffice sfs, I would want it unloaded on exiting. Although with it being a multipart application, the initial menu calling one of the parts might close that menu and and as a result, unload the SFS.
For a game, the auto-unload on exiting the game would be nice.
So to be safe, I would say no auto-unload of the SFS.
I did not take the Poll because it does not clarify enough.

Jasper

#458 Post by Jasper »

Hi 8-bit,

Try loading your games using seaside's SFStray and Libre-
Office by right clicking using shinobar's SFS loader. Then,
as I wrote before, right click again to unload it, though with
4GB of RAM you may never need or wish to do that.

My regards

PS How does your poll recommendation look?

keniv
Posts: 583
Joined: Tue 06 Oct 2009, 21:00
Location: Scotland

#459 Post by keniv »

Hi RHS

Thanks for taking all this trouble. I have attached two images of the desktop as I thought the information panel might count as a "program opened" and so one image shows this and the other does not. Hope this helps.

Regards,

Ken.
Attachments
image-2.jpg
(84.79 KiB) Downloaded 518 times
image-1.jpg
(104.82 KiB) Downloaded 528 times

keniv
Posts: 583
Joined: Tue 06 Oct 2009, 21:00
Location: Scotland

#460 Post by keniv »

Hi RHS

I looked at wbar config. This gave me the path to the file executed when the wbar shutdown button is clicked on. The path is /usr/sbin/ceelab/shutdown-pc/shutdown-pc. If I run shutdown-pc in a terminal it brings up the shutdown gui on the version of lazy on my hd (shutdown works properly on this one). However if I do the same on the version of lazy on the flash drive booting with grub4dos the shutdown gui does not appear and I get the attached error. I hope this helps.

Regards,

Ken.
Attachments
image-3.jpg
shutdown-pc error
(17.51 KiB) Downloaded 539 times

Post Reply