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nooby

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PostPosted: Thu 29 Nov 2012, 17:03    Post subject:  
Thanks that where friendly. Having not installed it as a full install
I see no way that it can save such an install?

Or am I missing something not known to me Smile

Xpud can remember by saving a copy of itself including the added apps?

Redo will always stay new due to it being "Live" and thus not saving anything?

Guys I only guess. It has a casper directory so one maybe can create
a casper-rw file on a ext3 formatted partition or USB?
and add rw to the boot line and ...

But would it not need some program that actually do save the program one
download and install?

Not that I want to do it too much hassle for somebody so computer challenged as I am.

Late at night here so sweet dreams
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Colonel Panic


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PostPosted: Sat 01 Dec 2012, 14:58    Post subject:  
sketchman wrote:
Colonel Panic wrote:
It would be good to be able to boot straight into XFCE though.


Got it. Working on mine, anyway. Just replace your "/etc/rc.d/rc.local" with the modified attached one. Modified "rc.local" looks for "startxfce4" and uses it if found, and if not uses the default "startx" script. Either way should get you from GRUB to desktop in one keystroke.

EDIT: Just noticed a glitch with this. Thunderbird (for example) can't find its config directory and makes a new one in "/". Just a heads up. No big deal really as you can just make a symlink in "/" for your original folder, but if someone knows how to fix that I will and reupload the file.


Thanks for this, I'm using Absolute now but have decided for the time being to stick with IceWM as it works well enough and truth be told I can't be bothered at the moment to figure out which Slackware 14 packages I need to install XFce. A Slack package manager is- long overdue IMO.
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James C


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PostPosted: Sat 01 Dec 2012, 17:00    Post subject:  
Finally..... a new Aptosid 2012-1. Purely for the smaller download I chose XFCE over the KDE.
http://aptosid.com/

Code:
aptosid@aptosid:~$ uname -r
3.6-8.slh.3-aptosid-686
aptosid@aptosid:~$
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Colonel Panic


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PostPosted: Sun 02 Dec 2012, 15:33    Post subject:  
James C wrote:
Finally..... a new Aptosid 2012-1. Purely for the smaller download I chose XFCE over the KDE.
http://aptosid.com/

Code:
aptosid@aptosid:~$ uname -r
3.6-8.slh.3-aptosid-686
aptosid@aptosid:~$


Yep, that's my next one (and the XFCE version too).
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Bligh

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PostPosted: Sun 02 Dec 2012, 23:23    Post subject:  
I tried xfce and kde lite. xfce had some nice wp, but I could not find them when I accessed the wp folder running live.
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Bligh

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PostPosted: Tue 04 Dec 2012, 23:40    Post subject:  
With so many great Puppies being released, I don't have a lot of time or need to try other distros.
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Pelo

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PostPosted: Fri 07 Dec 2012, 13:39    Post subject: legacy OS mini
Subject description: Pretty KDE desk and a lot of useful applis		  
Pretty KDE desk and a lot of useful applis
Très jolie distro avec des applications Nombreuses et utiles. Une distro bien pleine ce qui devient rare

It's rare nowadays to find a distro so rich.

Weakness :wifi connection
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James C


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PostPosted: Tue 11 Dec 2012, 01:44    Post subject:  
Slax 7.0 final was just released so I did a quick manual frugal install. Pretty impressive.... KDE 4.9.4, kernel 3.6.9 and in only 212 mb.
http://www.slax.org/blog.php

Running as root too. Smile
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PostPosted: Tue 11 Dec 2012, 01:50    Post subject:  
Haven't gotten around to doing a test install yet but the latest siduction 12.2.0-Riders on the Storm was released too.
http://siduction.org/

Probably get around to doing an install tomorrow.
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PostPosted: Tue 11 Dec 2012, 03:50    Post subject:  
Slax 7.0

Code:
bash-4.2# uname -r
3.6.9
bash-4.2# free
             total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
Mem:        505084     481480      23604          0      35872     222132
-/+ buffers/cache:     223476     281608
Swap:       524284      36676     487608
bash-4.2#



Only accessing half of my 1 Gb of swap...... guess I need to check it out..... Laughing
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nooby

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PostPosted: Tue 11 Dec 2012, 04:32    Post subject:  
James C wrote:
Slax 7.0 final was just released so I did a quick manual frugal install. Pretty impressive.... KDE 4.9.4, kernel 3.6.9 and in only 212 mb.
http://www.slax.org/blog.php

Running as root too. Smile

I hope you share the code you used in the frugal install menu.lst
would be cool to test.

One guy had difficulty to get it to do save.
How did you set it up?
He does mention bits of it here

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Persistent changes

By default, Slax detects if you run it from a writable device. If yes, then all the changes you make to the operating system itself are saved and restored next time you boot. All file modifications to Slax itself are saved into a special file changes.dat, which is created on your boot device in /slax/changes/ directory, and grows automatically in size up to 4GB. If you, for any reason, do not like this feature, simply uncheck the appropriate boot option and your Slax will start using the default 'fresh' configuration. It may be useful also in cases you'd like to test something system-wide, since if you screw things up, you can always revert to the previous state by reboot.

The file changes.dat is designed to work even on FAT filesystems, which are commonly used on most USB flash drives. Unfortunately FAT is limited to 4GB file size; for that reason, persistent changes can't grow more. In case you need to save more, please format your storage drive with some Linux filesystem such as EXT4 or BTRFS and install Slax to it. Slax will be able to save changes natively and will be limited only by the actual capacity of your device. Persistent Changes functionality does not (of course) affect files on hard drives in your computer. If you modify these files, they will always be modified regardless of your persistent changes settings. /quotes

And to boot from iso like this
support from=/path/slax.iso boot parameter to load slax data from the given iso

But a good example of a grub4dos would be cool to have
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PostPosted: Tue 11 Dec 2012, 05:23    Post subject:  
nooby wrote:
James C wrote:
Slax 7.0 final was just released so I did a quick manual frugal install. Pretty impressive.... KDE 4.9.4, kernel 3.6.9 and in only 212 mb.
http://www.slax.org/blog.php

Running as root too. Smile

I hope you share the code you used in the frugal install menu.lst
would be cool to test.

One guy had difficulty to get it to do save.
How did you set it up?
He does mention bits of it here

quote

Persistent changes

By default, Slax detects if you run it from a writable device. If yes, then all the changes you make to the operating system itself are saved and restored next time you boot. All file modifications to Slax itself are saved into a special file changes.dat, which is created on your boot device in /slax/changes/ directory, and grows automatically in size up to 4GB. If you, for any reason, do not like this feature, simply uncheck the appropriate boot option and your Slax will start using the default 'fresh' configuration. It may be useful also in cases you'd like to test something system-wide, since if you screw things up, you can always revert to the previous state by reboot.

The file changes.dat is designed to work even on FAT filesystems, which are commonly used on most USB flash drives. Unfortunately FAT is limited to 4GB file size; for that reason, persistent changes can't grow more. In case you need to save more, please format your storage drive with some Linux filesystem such as EXT4 or BTRFS and install Slax to it. Slax will be able to save changes natively and will be limited only by the actual capacity of your device. Persistent Changes functionality does not (of course) affect files on hard drives in your computer. If you modify these files, they will always be modified regardless of your persistent changes settings. /quotes

And to boot from iso like this
support from=/path/slax.iso boot parameter to load slax data from the given iso

But a good example of a grub4dos would be cool to have



Here it is.....

Code:
title Slax 7.0
  root (hd0,5)
  kernel /slax/boot/vmlinuz ramdisk=1 vga=792 root=/dev/ram0 rw perch,xmode 
  initrd /slax/boot/initrfs.img


I'm using Grud4dos but the old legacy Grub style entry works fine.

The "perch" entry is for "persistent changes" and "xmode" boots straight into KDE4. I had to do a bit of experimenting before I got everything working correctly but it's all good now.
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nooby

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PostPosted: Tue 11 Dec 2012, 05:28    Post subject:  
Thanks I ahve to test it too. Much appreciated you cared to share.

Yes I am writing from within Slax now but not being toram?
it is slow and I would need to tell it to use Swedish keyboard
in the boot code so ill change that one.
have not done a save yet but most likely it already done that?

So wonder how big one the Dev set up by default?

Thanks for helping me with boot code.

So why this instead of Proteus Linux which is the community
version of Slax?

Does this one have better features?
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bark_bark_bark

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PostPosted: Wed 12 Dec 2012, 13:45    Post subject:  
I am also running Slax 7.0! I think it is great except for the fact that it has no wifi.
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PostPosted: Sat 15 Dec 2012, 01:27    Post subject:  
Maybe I use austrumi the most (remaster ~250Mb in size) even some not working properly.
No wifi, some shortcut not working and a lot of thing that I dont know where to fix and no support at all. Opera with flash works ok so far, booting speed and remaster compression are the best.

Porteus is nice with xfce.
Slax7 would be nice with xfce or lxde or jwm, it will save around 40 seconds just to load kde or gnome. Not sure why do we need kde/gnome.

You can evaluate the comparison table by yourself.
My liveos test is only with one external HD on the same machine, not perfect but I have at least something to compare.[/img]
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