Precise Puppy 5.4.3

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#101 Post by BarryK »

Precise Puppy 5.4.2 is released. This was going to be 5.4.1.2, but I bumped it, as quite a lot of changes at Woof-level.

See blog post:
http://bkhome.org/blog2/?viewDetailed=00049
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Precise Puppy 5.4.2

#102 Post by Billtoo »

Manual frugal install to the hard drive.

VIDEO REPORT: Precise Puppy, version 5.4.2
Chip description:
oem: NVIDIA
product: GF108 Board - 1071v0p1 Chip Rev
Requested by /etc/X11/xorg.conf:
Modules requested to be loaded: dbe
Drivers requested to be loaded: vesa nvidia nvidia nvidia
Probing Xorg startup log file (/var/log/Xorg.0.log):
Driver loaded (and currently in use): nvidia
Loaded modules: dbe dri dri2 extmod glx kbd mouse ramdac record wfb
Actual rendering on monitor:
Resolution: 3840x1080 pixels (1048x292 millimeters)
Depth: 24 planes
Monitors
Monitor 0 1920x1080 pixels
Monitor 1 1920x1080 pixels
OpenGL
Vendor NVIDIA Corporation
Renderer GeForce GT 430/PCIe/SSE2/3DNOW!
Version 4.3.0 NVIDIA 310.19
Direct Rendering Yes
Network controller Ralink corp. RT3090 Wireless 802.11n 1T/1R PCIe Computer
Processor 6x AMD Phenom(tm) II X6 1045T Processor
Memory 8310MB (123MB used)
I installed several applications using ppm,vlc,kdegames,lxterminal.
It's working well so far.
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#103 Post by James C »

Manual frugal install on the old Athlon XP box.Everything working well so far.

# report-video
VIDEO REPORT: Precise Puppy, version 5.4.2

Chip description:
oem: NVidia
product: NV18 () Board Chip Rev A2

Requested by /etc/X11/xorg.conf:
Resolution (widthxheight, in pixels): 1440x900
Depth (bits, or planes): 24
Modules requested to be loaded: dbe

Probing Xorg startup log file (/var/log/Xorg.0.log):
Loaded modules: dbe dri dri2 exa extmod fb glx kbd mouse record shadowfb

Actual rendering on monitor:
Resolution: 1440x900 pixels (380x238 millimeters)
Depth: 24 planes

...the above also recorded in /tmp/report-video
# glxgears
Running synchronized to the vertical refresh. The framerate should be
approximately the same as the monitor refresh rate.
1720 frames in 5.0 seconds = 343.818 FPS
2341 frames in 5.0 seconds = 468.125 FPS
2390 frames in 5.0 seconds = 477.927 FPS
2340 frames in 5.0 seconds = 467.955 FPS
2333 frames in 5.0 seconds = 466.576 FPS

-Computer-
Processor : AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2400+
Memory : 1034MB (217MB used)
Operating System : Unknown distribution
User Name : root (root)
Date/Time : Fri 30 Nov 2012 04:09:10 PM CST
-Display-
Resolution : 1440x900 pixels
OpenGL Renderer : Mesa DRI nv18 x86/MMX+/3DNow!+/SSE
X11 Vendor : The X.Org Foundation
-Multimedia-
Audio Adapter : VIA8233 - VIA 8235

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Precise Puppy 5.4.2

#104 Post by Billtoo »

Manual frugal install to hard drive.

VIDEO REPORT: Precise Puppy, version 5.4.2
Chip description:
Intel Corporation Core Processor Integrated Graphics Controller
Requested by /etc/X11/xorg.conf:
Resolution (widthxheight, in pixels): 1280x1024
Depth (bits, or planes): 24
Modules requested to be loaded: dbe
Probing Xorg startup log file (/var/log/Xorg.0.log):
Driver loaded (and currently in use): intel
Loaded modules: dbe dri dri2 extmod fb glx kbd mouse record
Actual rendering on monitor:
Resolution: 1280x1024 pixels (338x270 millimeters)
Depth: 24 planes
OpenGL
Vendor Tungsten Graphics, Inc
Renderer Mesa DRI Intel(R) Ironlake Desktop x86/MMX/SSE2
Version 2.1 Mesa 8.0.4
Direct Rendering Yes
Computer
Processor 4x Intel(R) Core(TM) i3 CPU 540 @ 3.07GHz
Memory 6087MB (96MB used)
Linksys rt73 Compact Wireless-G USB Adapter

I installed the usual using ppm, it's working well.
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faster download site for precise 5.4.2

#105 Post by don570 »

faster download site for precise 5.4.2


http://ftp.nluug.nl/ftp/pub/os/Linux/di ... ise-5.4.2/

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#106 Post by vicmz »

Sorry for the off-topic

@James C

How can I install the system details panel you have on the top-right corner of your screenshots? Is it conky? Are there any .pet packages for that?
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#107 Post by James C »

vicmz wrote:Sorry for the off-topic

@James C

How can I install the system details panel you have on the top-right corner of your screenshots? Is it conky? Are there any .pet packages for that?
Yes, it's just Conky with a tweaked config. There are conky packages in the Precise repo in the PPM.

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#108 Post by vicmz »

James C wrote:
vicmz wrote:Sorry for the off-topic

@James C

How can I install the system details panel you have on the top-right corner of your screenshots? Is it conky? Are there any .pet packages for that?
Yes, it's just Conky with a tweaked config. There are conky packages in the Precise repo in the PPM.
Thanks :D
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#109 Post by artsown »

I ran Precise 5.4.2 for a couple of days and it seems to be solid with the
exception that it black screens on about 20% of startups and it still fails
to start up at all on one of my PCs. I post this because I've become
curious about the reason(s) all four of my various PCs having Pentium 4
cpus have problems with Pups built on 3. something kernels but have no
such problems running Pups built on earlier kernels. Why???

Art

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#110 Post by James C »

vicmz wrote:
James C wrote:
vicmz wrote:Sorry for the off-topic

@James C

How can I install the system details panel you have on the top-right corner of your screenshots? Is it conky? Are there any .pet packages for that?
Yes, it's just Conky with a tweaked config. There are conky packages in the Precise repo in the PPM.
Thanks :D
Just a bonus Conky screenshot....... :)
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what graphics systems?

#111 Post by davids45 »

G'day Art,

I have slightly similar problems with virtually all PAE-enabled Puppies giving black-screens soon after running - they all start up. Retros are all fine so far.

I put this down to my particular Radeon graphics card and the drivers offered by the various Linux distributions.

Are your four computers using the same graphics cards/system?

If not, if you listed the various graphics for each computer perhaps someone could give some help for you (and for me too, come to think of it).

David S.

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precise 542 and upup precise

#112 Post by eps »

not see dvdrom in fullinstall
idem samsung camera
livecd and frugal works good
best whishes
thanks
eps
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Retro Precise 5.4.2.iso Torrent Download file attached.

#113 Post by WB7ODYFred »

Retro Precise 5.4.2 Readme file
http://distro.ibiblio.org/quirky/precis ... README.htm

Here is the command to create this torrent
mktorrent -a udp://tracker.publicbt.com:80/announce,udp://tracker.istole.it:80/announce,http://tracker.coppersurfer.tk:6969/ann ... 9/announce -c "Puppy Linux Retro Precise based on Ubuntu Precise Pangolin 12.04.1+ " -w http://distro.ibiblio.org/quirky/precis ... -5.4.2.iso -o retroprecise-5.4.2.iso.torrent retroprecise-5.4.2.iso

http://www.datafilehost.com/download-1816ebd4.html Download Link for retroprecise-5.4.2.iso.torrent

AARF Example on creating Torrents TO SHARE
http://puppylinux.info/topic/pet-for-mk ... r-and-wide

http://ftp.nluug.nl/ibiblio/distributio ... 4.2-retro/ NLUUG download site
http://distro.ibiblio.org/quirky/precise-5.4.2-retro/ Ibiblio Download Site


How To use ZIP command to create a ZIP file
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 05c175ca3d

Command to create a ZIP file from a torrent file.
zip retroprecise-5.4.2.iso.torrent.zip retroprecise-5.4.2.iso.torrent
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#114 Post by artsown »

Hello davids45.

You may be right that video driver versions are the "black screen"
culprit. I began to associate the black screen problem with Pups
on 3.X kernels since slacko, racy and precise all have the problem,
at least with PAE versions. I noticed that Barry remarked that the
only other difference (precise) between PAE and Retro is video
drivers. My tests on Precise Retro also indicated no black screen
problem. But 5.4.2 Retro still freezes during startup at the line
"Recognising media devices ... optical input" on one machine.

None of my PCs have the Radeon video. Two of my PCs have some
old Nvidia and the other two have some versions of (on board)
Intel hardware. I seem to recall that forcing Vesa on one of my
tests cleared up the black screen problem. So that's one
indication that it may be a driver issue.

To be clear, "black screen" here means "mostly black" since the
toolbar at the bottom of the screen is visible and useable so
that you can select Menu-Shutdown-Restart x server to get the
full gui screen. That's another reason why I'm not so sure it's
as simple as video driver versions. Why should video work ok
once you restart x if it's a driver problem? I would expect far
worse behaviour with video driver problems.

I couldn't care less for myself about these issues. My concern
is that new users may get turned off of Puppy at the first
black screen and never return :)

Since I'm obviously confused by all I've seen, I've been hoping
that Barry or some other expert would shed some light. I'd be
perfectly happy to do some guided testing.

Art

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#115 Post by bigpup »

artsown,

Yes it is related to the graphics driver being used.
The driver that is trying to be used, at initial boot, is not completely compatible with your graphics hardware.

In Slacko 5.4 this is the suggested options to correct the problem.
If you have video blackscreen at boot try one of these boot options:

pfix=ram i915.modeset=0
pfix=ram radeon.modeset=0
pfix=ram nouveau.modeset=0

depending on your card of course.

NB:
i915 is for intel
radeon is for radeon
nouveau is for nvidia
Vesa driver should work for any graphics hardware. It provides the basic video graphics that all graphics hardware support.
The things they do not tell you, are usually the clue to solving the problem.
When I was a kid I wanted to be older.... This is not what I expected :shock:
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#116 Post by oldyeller »

Hello,

Precise retro 5.4.2 frugal install Dell D430


It would seem that Pmusic never made it in Precise. Any one no way?


Cheers

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#117 Post by Terryphi »

oldyeller wrote:Hello,

Precise retro 5.4.2 frugal install Dell D430


It would seem that Pmusic never made it in Precise. Any one no way?


Cheers
See Barry's blog :http://bkhome.org/blog2/?viewDetailed=00004
[b]Classic Opera 12.16 browser SFS package[/b] for Precise, Slacko, Racy, Wary, Lucid, etc available[url=http://terryphillips.org.uk/operasfs.htm]here[/url] :)

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#118 Post by artsown »

Thanks for the input, bigpup.

Art

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#119 Post by FeodorF »

Ref. /usr/local/lib/X11/pixmaps

24x24 boxes aren`t RGB`s

48x48 boxes are RGB`s
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#120 Post by BarryK »

artsown wrote:Hello davids45.

You may be right that video driver versions are the "black screen"
culprit. I began to associate the black screen problem with Pups
on 3.X kernels since slacko, racy and precise all have the problem,
at least with PAE versions. I noticed that Barry remarked that the
only other difference (precise) between PAE and Retro is video
drivers. My tests on Precise Retro also indicated no black screen
problem. But 5.4.2 Retro still freezes during startup at the line
"Recognising media devices ... optical input" on one machine.

None of my PCs have the Radeon video. Two of my PCs have some
old Nvidia and the other two have some versions of (on board)
Intel hardware. I seem to recall that forcing Vesa on one of my
tests cleared up the black screen problem. So that's one
indication that it may be a driver issue.

To be clear, "black screen" here means "mostly black" since the
toolbar at the bottom of the screen is visible and useable so
that you can select Menu-Shutdown-Restart x server to get the
full gui screen. That's another reason why I'm not so sure it's
as simple as video driver versions. Why should video work ok
once you restart x if it's a driver problem? I would expect far
worse behaviour with video driver problems.

I couldn't care less for myself about these issues. My concern
is that new users may get turned off of Puppy at the first
black screen and never return :)

Since I'm obviously confused by all I've seen, I've been hoping
that Barry or some other expert would shed some light. I'd be
perfectly happy to do some guided testing.

Art
Your problem is that ROX-Filer is failing to start.

In /root/.xinitrc you will see this code:

Code: Select all

#w468 on old PCs rox sometimes does not start, see further down...
#120718 raspi sometimes need extra delay otherwise rox fails to start.
CPUSPEED=`grep -m 1 -i '^cpu MHz' /proc/cpuinfo | tr -d ' ' | cut -f 2 -d ':' | cut -f 1 -d '.'` #my laptop: 933.000
[ ! $CPUSPEED ] && CPUSPEED=`grep -m 1 -i '^bogomips' /proc/cpuinfo | tr -d ' ' | cut -f 2 -d ':' | cut -f 1 -d '.'` #120718 raspi: 697.95  my laptop: 4789.47
[ ! $CPUSPEED ] && CPUSPEED=250
[ $CPUSPEED -lt 700 ] && sleep 0.5
[ $CPUSPEED -lt 400 ] && sleep 0.5
if [ -f /root/Choices/ROX-Filer/PuppyPan1 ];then
 rox -p /root/Choices/ROX-Filer/PuppyPin -r /root/Choices/ROX-Filer/PuppyPan1
else
 rox -p /root/Choices/ROX-Filer/PuppyPin
fi
For anyone else experiencing this black screen problem, but you do get the taskbar, would you mind please trying these experiments...

The above code may need tweaking. Open a terminal and try each of these:

Code: Select all

grep -m 1 -i '^cpu MHz' /proc/cpuinfo | tr -d ' ' | cut -f 2 -d ':' | cut -f 1 -d '.'

Code: Select all

grep -m 1 -i '^bogomips' /proc/cpuinfo | tr -d ' ' | cut -f 2 -d ':' | cut -f 1 -d '.'
...for the CPU speeds you are getting, we may need to bump those "sleep" lines.

Well, you could try some changes, for example, try "sleep 1", or "sleep 1.5" or "sleep 2" or "sleep 2.5" -- find out the lowest sleep that gives you consistently no black screens.
...maybe start with longest sleep, then work down.

This feedback will be much appreciated.
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