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Changed to ADSL now POP3 mail won't come down[Mostly Solved]
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tytower
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 440 Location: Green Island Cairns for the winter |
Next Question. As above I download my mail by POP3 from yahoo and gmail All was setup and running well with my GPSM internet connection but now with my new TPG adsl connection they time out I can't get my mail atm I suspect its to do with these security certificates you get and have to just blindly accept . Anybody know how to fix this? I use Sylpheed _________________ Neither my Family nor my Property are Government issues. Governments should do what they were designed to do Manage the larger issues best done by Governments To stop corruption give them 3 times the penalty. Get their agreement on first employment. Edited_times_total |
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xan
Joined: 25 Nov 2012 Posts: 40 |
I don't think anything needs to be changed going to different internet types. If you had your mail client set up properly for yahoo/gmail then it should continue to work. What are the security messages? You should never blindly accept such things. Your query isn't really about Puppy or Linux, but it might pay to check what your DNS settings are now and make sure you aren't still using the DNS servers from the old ISP. |
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tytower
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 440 Location: Green Island Cairns for the winter |
Well something has shanged and I still have not been able to access POP3 I tried setting up a new connection but no go . It has to be something to do with the ADSL change? _________________ Neither my Family nor my Property are Government issues. Governments should do what they were designed to do Manage the larger issues best done by Governments To stop corruption give them 3 times the penalty. Get their agreement on first employment. |
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tytower
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 440 Location: Green Island Cairns for the winter |
I'm thinking this is to do with ADSL2 change for sure as when I switch back to GPRS Modem connection everything again works fine Anyone seen this behaviour before and know a fix? _________________ Neither my Family nor my Property are Government issues. Governments should do what they were designed to do Manage the larger issues best done by Governments To stop corruption give them 3 times the penalty. Get their agreement on first employment. |
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tytower
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 440 Location: Green Island Cairns for the winter |
I asked my ISP if they knew what was happening and got this response . Now I will just have to sit down for a few hours and work out what , if anything at all , their reply means !
_________________ Neither my Family nor my Property are Government issues. Governments should do what they were designed to do Manage the larger issues best done by Governments To stop corruption give them 3 times the penalty. Get their agreement on first employment. |
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xan
Joined: 25 Nov 2012 Posts: 40 |
Hi, I don't know why gmail is not working for you. All I can say is what is not causing your problem. It's not your ISP. They are not responsible for gmail/yahoo. TPG do not block them that I'm aware. My ISP doesn't. It's not a problem with ADSL. I use an Australian ADSL2+ service (not TPG) and don't have such a problem. I haven't use sylpheed but there shouldn't be much you need to configure. Just the username and password the POP3 mail server: pop.gmail.com the incoming port: 995 (the normal default is 110 so you may have to change this) and enable encryption: TLS If you need more then you'll have to give the actual error message. The reason I asked about DNS is that maybe when you are changing your internet connection you are leaving the old DNS settings and the mail server is simply timing out. |
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tytower
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 440 Location: Green Island Cairns for the winter |
Yeh thats why I didn't understand your post. Even leaving the old DNS would not cause this. The browser looks up Yahoos address IP and can get that from any availaable DNS -Domain Name Server-. The browser then goes off merrily to the IP it found and the rest is up to the server at that IP This is more like a block by TPG or the certificate obtained from Yahoo contains the Originators IP and when that changes it wont accept it any more . I turned off the security certificate anyway but it still does not accept me . Both Yahoo and Gmail _________________ Neither my Family nor my Property are Government issues. Governments should do what they were designed to do Manage the larger issues best done by Governments To stop corruption give them 3 times the penalty. Get their agreement on first employment. |
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cthisbear
Joined: 29 Jan 2006 Posts: 2980 Location: Sydney Australia |
tytower " This is more like a block by TPG " Sorry mate ...but you appear out of your depth on mail and modem issues. I have had TPG for over 15 years without your heartaches. """"" My top tip for all your probs is register on Whirlpool http://whirlpool.net.au/profile/index.cfm?a=register ::: " To register, you will need to confirm your email address. Free, web-based email services occasionally cause problems with the registration process. It is strongly recommended that you enter your main email address — often the one supplied by your ISP, but ideally one you'll have for a long time." Register a separate email A/C on Lavabit They do not spy on you. Use that one for Whirlpool. https://lavabit.com/apps/register Then go to the TPG forum http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum/90 and tell them your issues. They have good TPG reps. Joseph D...is very helpful. http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/user/344067 """" TPG general settings. Incoming Mail Server (POP3 or IMAP) mail.tpg.com.au 110 (POP3) 143 (IMAP) Outgoing Mail Server (SMTP) mail.tpg.com.au 25 Email Address TPG username@tpg.com.au Email Username Your TPG Username Email Password Your TPG Password http://www.tpg.com.au/support/generalsetting.php other settings are there ::: Your username is >>> ???? Username whatever@tpg.com.au Email Address whatever@tpg.com.au Subnet Address 1 Netmask 1 Subnet Address 2 Netmask 2 Subnet Address 3 Netmask 3 Subnet Address 4 Netmask 4 Subnet Address 5 Netmask 5 DNS Servers Primary: 203.12.160.35 Secondary: 203.12.160.36 """""" ADSL2+ Standalone Modem Guides http://www.tpg.com.au/support/modem_support_standalone.php """""" TPG Email Settings http://www.tpg.com.au/support/emailsetting.php """" I would wipe your modem to Factory default and start again. Make sure you know your settings, user name and password. And then update the modem. Back it up if all working before getting any update. After update and all working...back your modem up again. If you can get wireless in Windows but not Puppy then you are using the wrong version...or need a Pet from Tempe etc. No ifs...no buts. You have the wireless switched on in Puppy.... Sure...the most common problem??? Do not assume that it's on. And stop buggering about...just use Frisbee. """"""""""" 3. Re-configure The Router In Layer2 PPPoE Log into your router’s web interface and please ensure you use the following settings if/when asked: a. Connection Type/Encapsulation: PPPoE LLC b. Encapsulation Mode: LLC c. VPI: 8 d. VCI: 35 e. Security Protocol: PAP or AUTO f. NAT: enabled g. Modulation i. For ADSL customers – G.dmt ii. For ADSL2+ customers – Multimode or ADSL2+ h. User name: TPG username> @L2TP.tpg.com.au for Fixed IP plans OR TPG username> @PPP.tpg.com.au for Dynamic IP plans (e.g. adsl1234@L2TP.tpg.com.au ) g. Password: Your Password by default is the same as your TPG username however if you have changed your password since registration time, please use your current TPG password 4. Save Settings and Reboot The Router """ Support Information For further assistance, please call TPG Technical Support on 1300 360 855 Technical Support Opening Hours Monday to Friday 8am – midnight Saturday and Sunday 9am – 9pm Public Holidays 9am – 6pm ::::::::: Chris. |
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tytower
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 440 Location: Green Island Cairns for the winter |
Well thanks for taking the time Mate . That's a lot of information .Must be something I can use in there.I appreciate it. In a nutshell exactly what do you think my probrem really is ? Stabbing out at everything is a practical approach alright but far from the best approach. Some motor mechanics will change everything until they hit on the part causing the problem. This seems to be your approach here and don't get me wrong , nothing against that , but there are less expensive ways but they require a little thought.
I don't think you read my post properly to realise I don't have a problem with TPG's pop3 . I have a problem getting yahoo and gmail's pop3 through TPG!
I have a GPS modem and when I plug it and connect I have no problem getting mail from yahoo and gmail by pop3 The router as set now has the right DNS anyhow and I browse with no problems - Its only the pop3 mail of the above 2 that's giving me the problem ![/quote] _________________ Neither my Family nor my Property are Government issues. Governments should do what they were designed to do Manage the larger issues best done by Governments To stop corruption give them 3 times the penalty. Get their agreement on first employment. Edited_times_total |
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xan
Joined: 25 Nov 2012 Posts: 40 |
Not your ADSL service. Either you are blocking gmail with your firewall, or you don't have your email client set up properly, or you need to change your gmail settings to allow POP3 for all mail. I installed Sylpheed just to see what you are seeing. I used the default settings, but I had to log in to gmail with a browser and allow POP3 access for all mail. Maybe that's what you need to do. (By the way, gmail supports IMAP, which is better than POP3). Aside from that, I wasn't much impressed with Sylpheed. I prefer Seamonkey's Mail client (or Thunderbird). |
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tytower
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 440 Location: Green Island Cairns for the winter |
Please don't find me rude but I have pop3 setup to work on gmail and on yahoo. I have been using it with the same settings for about 2 years or more so the email client is set up OK. I did that (browser into gmail and yahoo) at the start.2 years ago. Perhaps the firewall is an issue and I have not looked at IMAP . Might do so . Sylpheed is independent of Mozilla and so I consider it less likely that my browser and email is open to mozilla's scrutiny if they choose to look. I still consider the problem is caused by TPG but if I find out otherwise I will openly and honestly admit that here _________________ Neither my Family nor my Property are Government issues. Governments should do what they were designed to do Manage the larger issues best done by Governments To stop corruption give them 3 times the penalty. Get their agreement on first employment. |
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xan
Joined: 25 Nov 2012 Posts: 40 |
I'm only relaying my experience earlier today. I found Sylpheed to be flaky with Gmail. Initially it downloaded the mail, but then it stopped responding and just sat there until it timed out. While at the same time a non-gmail mail account continued to work. Throughout that time Seamonkey mail continued to poll gmail quickly and successfully. Even though I already had pop3 enabled in Gmail, when I went back and enabled it for all mail Sylpheed started working again, but still seemed hesitant compared to the solid nature of the Seamonkey polling. That's was all done on the same internet connection and operating system. I can't say any more because I've uninstalled Sylpheed.
Wouldn't that mean you know have two parties looking at you rather than just one? What about Claws? Maybe it works a bit differently to Sylpheed. http://distro.ibiblio.org/puppylinux/pet_packages-slacko/claws-mail-3.8.1-i486.pet |
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tytower
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 440 Location: Green Island Cairns for the winter |
Well its the big boys that go bad and ignore your privacy rights ...because they can. The smaller ones have to be careful not to lose patronage so they don't take the risk or they don't survive if they do. See the logic? I'm not interested in changing my mail program . What I seek an answer to is "What has changed that is interfering with my usual mode of obtaining my email." Seeking an answer to this is important to me as I don't like the "swap out old parts with new "approach That said I was playing round with my Firewall today and noticed that you can alter the settings for SMTP and also for POP3 so I'll experiment there for a bit and wonder if TPG's firewall affects that. _________________ Neither my Family nor my Property are Government issues. Governments should do what they were designed to do Manage the larger issues best done by Governments To stop corruption give them 3 times the penalty. Get their agreement on first employment. |
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tytower
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 440 Location: Green Island Cairns for the winter |
cthisbear ,cthisbear are you there? Funny how they dash in fix all your problems in one fell swoop and then disappear! Maybe he'll come back in next Sunday _________________ Neither my Family nor my Property are Government issues. Governments should do what they were designed to do Manage the larger issues best done by Governments To stop corruption give them 3 times the penalty. Get their agreement on first employment. |
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cthisbear
Joined: 29 Jan 2006 Posts: 2980 Location: Sydney Australia |
tytower: Mate i pointed you to Whirlpool Forum for TPG. Hello....Mars calling Earth....can you hear me. I am also in the process of moving. Chris. |
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