Puppy Linux Discussion Forum

[gcmartin]

One of the frustrations that many of us have is that the forum is NOT a collaboration facility. It is a forum where after 1 gets off the podium another steps up...mostly to announce or provide assistance.

BUT, as we all know, it does NOT allow collaboration. Collaboration is where a group can equally (sometimes) interoperate together. For example several developers can simultaneously contribute to the same project/application. Or several people can contribute to writing a User Guide.

Or, this is a must if you like music

As you can see, we can bring to bear our Google ID for the good of Puppy too. Its free and allow us PUPs to work in "a pack" to achieve something for Puppy good... er, I mean 'Public Good'.

Here to help

[darkcity]

I would be good to use something like github to collaborate-

Mavrothal has already done this for XOpup

https://github.com/mavrothal/Pox_git

[Flash]

What about the wiki?

[darkcity]

The Wiki is good for collaborating on documentation. With software is good to have some sort of "versioning" system. I see the ideal being some sort of Puppy foundation, where bugs and features are tracked and managed. I don't think Barry would like to work this way, so it might involve using a fork or version.

I've already posted this, but I find it entertaining ; -)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CEN4XNth61o

[disciple]

There is at least http://code.google.com/p/puppylinux/ and http://sourceforge.net/projects/puppylinux/ which don't get used...

[Iguleder]

Let's make a "puppylinux" account in GitHub - individual developers will be given permissions to contribute code to repositories under it.

Things like Slickpet and Pmusic (e.g a repository for each project) could be stored there.

[greengeek]

I really don't trust yahoo, google, or google docs, or any other unpaid service. If there is to be a forum allowing greater collaboration I think it would be better to be away from the "free" offerings for two reasons:
1) They seem slow - possible because they can be loaded with adware and also because the site design is determined by what the big corporate wants (eg flash, heavy scripting, special formatting like google docs etc etc)
2) I prefer the "keep it simple" principal and I just don't think it helps matters to have weighty corporate sites as a discussion hub. I think a paid service would encourage users to be on-topic and motivated.

Anyway, I'm sick of google skewing the internet toward the capitalist universe. I find them intrusive and no longer a servant - more of a master. Even microsoft is highlighting Googles shady manipulation of the data they present.
http://www.datamation.com/news/microsoft-attacks-google-search-with-scroogled-campaign.html
I recently went to a small business conference and was disgusted to find out how powerful google's manipulation of search data is. And how easy it is to get backdoor access to information that should be private.

I'd like any puppy development to be completely out of the gaze/reach of corporate taint. And I'd be happy to pay a subscription to be able to do that. I've got several ideas I'd like to patent and implement via puppy, but would never want to see useful 'ground floor' ideas be snapped up and locked up by the corporate world.

What I would really like to see is a form of "conference PM" so that ideas could be discussed offline by a specific group of interested parties. Sometimes it is destructive to discuss a problem "online" and can make a forum topic untidy and fragmented, but PM-ing is only one-to-one which can restrict it's usefulness. Something between the two extremes could be ideal.

[disciple]

[01micko]

I quite like kirk and jamesbonds' setup for FatDog.

They use Fossil with chiselapp.com.

As Slacko dev winds down I was thinking it might be a good idea to shift raspberry pi development to something like that. Barry has some good ideas with woof but I think with some trimming and optimising for pi (of course if the interest is there) that a good build system could be implemented with Fossil.

Note that Barry uses Fossil too at bkhome.org, but no body has any rights there as yet.

[Smithy]

Ninjam has been going for years for collaborating with musicians:

http://www.cockos.com/ninjam/

There is a one bar delay in realtime collaboration, which seems like a suitable compromise until quantum physics is established
Only tried it once to test, but I think some people use it a lot.

I would trust a musicians site more than some Google dumbed down empire (air guitar?)
who's ultimate goal is to gather all the data in the world and flog it?

Google and Wall Street etc are turning human beings into commodities and are responsible for a lot of social ills in the world today. Maybe if Google was just turned into some kind of public library for public good it would be better, with some adverts to keep it going.
Could be wrong though. Maybe Google are an okay company...

But there was that fiasco about grabbing private wireless data as their Skynet machine mapped the streets of the world!


I would have thought a Puppy team could just use a private chat room, and an ftp site for files, and arrange "meetings"?
Wouldn't that do the job gc Martin?

[Iguleder]

[darkcity]

[jamesbond]

As a grateful fossil user, I feel compelled to correct the misinformation about it.

[greengeek]

[James C]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pk7yqlTMvp8