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Billtoo
Joined: 07 Apr 2009 Posts: 1494 Location: Ontario Canada
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Posted: Sun 18 Nov 2012, 04:00 Post subject:
Slacko - RC1 [5.4] Subject description: slacko 5.3.7.7 pae on hp desktop pc. |
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Manual frugal install to hard drive.
I installed the proprietary nvidia driver and configured it to use two
monitors.
Report Video 1.4-Sun 18 Nov 2012 on Slacko Puppy 5.3.7.7 -Linux 3.4.17-PAE i686
Chip description:
0.0 VGA compatible controller:nVidiaCorporationGF108 GeForce GT 430] (rev a1)
oem: NVIDIA
product: GF108 Board - 1071v0p1 Chip Rev
X Server: Xorg Driver used: vesa
X.Org version: 1.12.3
dimensions: 1920x1080 pixels (524x292 millimeters)
depth of root window: 24 planes
dimensions: 1280x1024 pixels (382x302 millimeters)
depth of root window: 24 planes
OpenGL
Vendor NVIDIA Corporation
Renderer GeForce GT 430/PCIe/SSE2/3DNOW!
Version 4.3.0 NVIDIA 310.19
Direct Rendering Yes
Computer
Processor 6x AMD Phenom(tm) II X6 1045T Processor
Memory 8233MB (303MB used)
JWM doesn't seem work with this setup so I compiled fluxbox 1.3.2 and it
does work with two monitors, it's going to take some time to setup the
menus but it should work okay, for now I'm using the "run" command on
the fluxbox menu a lot
Report-video still has the vesa bug.
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ETP

Joined: 19 Oct 2010 Posts: 306 Location: UK
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Posted: Sun 18 Nov 2012, 06:20 Post subject:
Slacko - RC1 [5.4] Subject description: Testing 5.3.7.7 ---4g |
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Hi 01micko,
There are some errors relating to JWM in === /tmp/xerrs.log ===
A rogue line in .jwmrc-tray is one of the causes:
| Code: | | <TrayButton popup="Popup text" icon="Path to Icon">exec:Name of Executable</TrayButton> |
_________________ Regards ETP
Currently running Slacko 5.3.3 k-3.1.10
(demo with audio--play flash full screen & press F11)
http://megaswf.com/s/2484946 1080p version Oct 2012
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01micko

Joined: 11 Oct 2008 Posts: 7017 Location: qld
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Posted: Sun 18 Nov 2012, 07:54 Post subject:
Re: Slacko - RC1 [5.4] Subject description: Testing 5.3.7.7 ---4g |
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| ETP wrote: | | Code: | | <TrayButton popup="Popup text" icon="Path to Icon">exec:Name of Executable</TrayButton> |
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Thanks, fixed.
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There are 2 far more serious bugs, both in PPM and both woof.. while Barry is busy prettying up upu/dpup slacko has taken a knock for the worse.- clicking a pet fails to run fixmenus
- installing something that requires deps from the slacko repo also searches and installs old packages from the old slacko-5.3x repo
I will look at the first one, possibly roll back the changes, the second one I can fix by eliminating the old slacko repo. Nothing from there should be installed anyway, but you can still add it by choice. Install anything from there and you are on your own .
The pet below fixes issues 1and 2 and also fixes deps for google-chrome. I have also reuploaded bibletime, it was a bad compile.
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mavrothal

Joined: 24 Aug 2009 Posts: 1058
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Posted: Sun 18 Nov 2012, 08:04 Post subject:
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Hi Mick,
RC1 is certainly snappier
However, the problem with sound in the XOs exist and trying to truck it down I think I came across a bigger problem. Installing udev-182 from the official slackware repo brakes Slacko (XO or not). Not just the sound. Even worse, removing it with PPM totally brakes the build (X will not start after removal of udev-182).
I do not know if this is a Slackware package problem or a Slacko issue. I do know that Precise and Ubuntu udev-175 do not have this problem (or Slacko 5.3.x and slackware udev-165).
On another matter, the 3-level deep menus are really user unfriendly as users should not only guess the category but the sub-category to find what they want. The fact that some apps are placed in not "evident" subcategories makes things worse. jwm_menu_create is certainly snappier than fixmenus but it may need some rework on the "3-level deep" part...
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01micko

Joined: 11 Oct 2008 Posts: 7017 Location: qld
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Posted: Sun 18 Nov 2012, 08:17 Post subject:
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| mavrothal wrote: | | However, the problem with sound in the XOs exist and trying to truck it down I think I came across a bigger problem. Installing udev-182 from the official slackware repo brakes Slacko (XO or not). Not just the sound. Even worse, removing it with PPM totally brakes the build (X will not start after removal of udev-182). | udev is a mess. I'll leave it at that, except that anything after 175 is no good for puppy. Fedora uses kmod.. no? Any idea how they are getting sound? You could try compiling module-init-tools for XO builds, would most likely work.
| mavrothal wrote: | On another matter, the 3-level deep menus are really user unfriendly as users should not only guess the category but the sub-category to find what they want. The fact that some apps are placed in not "evident" subcategories makes things worse. jwm_menu_create is certainly snappier than fixmenus but it may need some rework on the "3-level deep" part...  | You can configure that if you want ..SUBMENU="" in ~/.jwm/JWMRC (and /etc/JWMRC if distro building). However, I strongly disagree with 1 big column of stuff, it looks awful and is slow to navigate. Tiers are staying.
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mavrothal

Joined: 24 Aug 2009 Posts: 1058
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Posted: Sun 18 Nov 2012, 08:40 Post subject:
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| 01micko wrote: | | mavrothal wrote: | | However, the problem with sound in the XOs exist and trying to truck it down I think I came across a bigger problem. Installing udev-182 from the official slackware repo brakes Slacko (XO or not). Not just the sound. Even worse, removing it with PPM totally brakes the build (X will not start after removal of udev-182). | udev is a mess. I'll leave it at that, except that anything after 175 is no good for puppy. |
You may want to put a block/warning to avoid "accidents"
| 01micko wrote: | | Fedora uses kmod.. no? Any idea how they are getting sound? |
From what I see all they do is to run "alcactl restore" at a later time and NOT at module load time
| 01micko wrote: | | You can configure that if you want ..SUBMENU="" in ~/.jwm/JWMRC (and /etc/JWMRC if distro building). However, I strongly disagree with 1 big column of stuff, it looks awful and is slow to navigate. Tiers are staying. |
Is your baby
SUBMENU="" will do for me
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Jasper

Joined: 25 Apr 2010 Posts: 869 Location: England
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Posted: Sun 18 Nov 2012, 09:53 Post subject:
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Hi 01micko, mavrothal et al,
I use Htop and I rarely use anything else from the System menu.
So, as appropriate, I like simplicity and speed of choice and use.
My regards
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rcrsn51

Joined: 05 Sep 2006 Posts: 7743 Location: Stratford, Ontario
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Posted: Sun 18 Nov 2012, 10:41 Post subject:
Re: Slacko - RC1 [5.4] Subject description: Testing 5.3.7.7 ---4g |
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| 01micko wrote: | | clicking a pet fails to run fixmenus |
That would explain the situation here. The installer reports it as "Category: none" and doesn't run fixmenus.
But running fixmenus manually adds it.
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majorfoo
Joined: 07 Mar 2011 Posts: 418 Location: Wish I knew
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Posted: Sun 18 Nov 2012, 18:57 Post subject:
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Clean full install to ext4 partition using PAE version
Everything i have tried works otb.
Very fast.
Thanks for your hard work and dedication to Puppy.
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MinHundHettePerro

Joined: 05 Feb 2009 Posts: 831 Location: SE
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Posted: Sun 18 Nov 2012, 20:09 Post subject:
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Hello !
While, in 5.3.7.0/1 I experienced quite a few lock-ups - everything freezing, no Ctrl-Alt-F*/Ctrl-Alt-BkSp (nor Ctrl-Brk/C ...) possible - , in 5.3.7.7 I have seen none of this, as yet .
Looking good, so far / MHHP
_________________ Celeron 2.8 GHz, 1 GiB RAM, i82845 graphics, many partitions, Pupmode 12 (13)
Mostly running Slacko & 214X
Nämen, vaf.... ln -s /dev/null MHHP
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ETP

Joined: 19 Oct 2010 Posts: 306 Location: UK
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Posted: Mon 19 Nov 2012, 11:55 Post subject:
RC1 Subject description: jwmrc-personal key-mask / key keycode problem |
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01micko,
Please see this post: (same issue in 5.3.7.7 - screeny is a good example)
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=665602#665602
Also in the following did you intend two entries for defaultbrowser or one for the browser & one for defaultemail?
<Key keycode="178">exec:defaultbrowser</Key>
<Key keycode="236">exec:defaultbrowser</Key>
<Key keycode="111">exec:screeny</Key>
_________________ Regards ETP
Currently running Slacko 5.3.3 k-3.1.10
(demo with audio--play flash full screen & press F11)
http://megaswf.com/s/2484946 1080p version Oct 2012
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zigbert

Joined: 29 Mar 2006 Posts: 5240 Location: Valåmoen, Norway
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Posted: Mon 19 Nov 2012, 16:19 Post subject:
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Test Slacko rc1
Updated wizard for multiple soundcards works as expected. No trouble at all.
The new video wizard gave me full HD resolution. Great stuff - but wow... 53Mb to download.... There are humans (cooperations) out there that is not known to the Puppy way of doing things. On the other hand, the Puppy way of setting up a Xorg Wizard is only useful to those familiar with the nerdy Linux terminology....
Tried Gimp 2.8.2 for the first time. - Looking forward to replace 2.6.x. I checked the repo and it contains much of the goodies, but lacks a car simulator game. I checked for Vdrift, Torcs, Stunt Rally and Racer. Any serious distro offers a decent solution for drifting
All there is to say is that this looks really good. And it feels snappier than 5.3.3.
There are some bugs coming up in Pmusic, so please give a note if you miss the latest version.... And I guess you have your reasons for not using the gtkdialog-splash with borders.
Thanks a lot for Slacko
Sigmund
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01micko

Joined: 11 Oct 2008 Posts: 7017 Location: qld
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Posted: Mon 19 Nov 2012, 16:34 Post subject:
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| zigbert wrote: | Test Slacko rc1
Updated wizard for multiple soundcards works as expected. No trouble at all. |
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The new video wizard gave me full HD resolution. Great stuff - but wow... 53Mb to download.... There are humans (cooperations) out there that is not known to the Puppy way of doing things. On the other hand, the Puppy way of setting up a Xorg Wizard is only useful to those familiar with the nerdy Linux terminology.... | I can slim it by about 1M by trimming docs and dev but I could not see the point. The bloat comes from the fact that the config GUI requires QT libraries, ati/amd include their own.. I don't know why they couldn't use gtk or even xlib. As for Xorg Wizard, yeah, not the most noob friendly, but hopefully only a few noobs ever get to see it.
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Tried Gimp 2.8.2 for the first time. - Looking forward to replace 2.6.x. I checked the repo and it contains much of the goodies, but lacks a car simulator game. I checked for Vdrift, Torcs, Stunt Rally and Racer. Any serious distro offers a decent solution for drifting | The sfs-manager is new and is a bit empty. Part of the reason is ibiblio still has trouble. Trying to upload stuff is a pain. That said, I didn't test 'torcs', but can and will.
There is a bug with that if you choose the "-fg" argument.
Thanks for report.
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James C

Joined: 26 Mar 2009 Posts: 4738 Location: Kentucky
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Posted: Tue 20 Nov 2012, 00:47 Post subject:
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Puppy needs SeaMonkey so I made a pet of 2.13.2........ awesome persona not included.
Does seem smoother than Firefox on this old Athlon XP box.
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01micko

Joined: 11 Oct 2008 Posts: 7017 Location: qld
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Posted: Tue 20 Nov 2012, 06:35 Post subject:
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| zigbert wrote: | I checked for Vdrift, Torcs, Stunt Rally and Racer. Any serious distro offers a decent solution for drifting |
Torcs has only just released a new stable version .. so I compiled it, easy actually apart from some small bugs in the make process. The sfs is massive though.. 291MB .. a bit big maybe to upload to the main repo, especially since I upload something about 50M it constantly breaks ..
I can still put it in the sfs manager but as a special case where it only downloads from smokey01's repo. Seems to work fine but I really need to test a bit more before I commit it..
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Uploading .. if you want it you'll find it ..(will be in sfs manager in final)
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