Precise Puppy 5.4 and 5.4.2

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black screens sometimes

#41 Post by shinobar »

artsown wrote:Since Precise 5.4 is still giving me black screens sometimes
If the black screen means the X server runs but the desktop is blacken, it may be a timing issue.

The script /sbin/pupevent_frontend_d has a wait at the top stage:
#w471 slow cpus need more delay (well, rox does)...
#120829 L18L: need 1 sec for my 1514 MHZ CPU.

It is reported that recent Puppies need more wait than older Puppies, though the reason is unknown.

@Barry and to all
I propose putting more sleep, simply for all hardware. I mean more sleep at line 57:
sleep 1 #let the dust settle after X has started. 120718 reduce 2 to 1.

I propose:
sleep 1 ==> sleep 4
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#42 Post by majorfoo »

artsown wrote:
The black screens at bootup seem to occur randomly. It's hard
to judge their frequency of occurance since I can't sit here all day
rebooting different test machines in order to do statistics :) But
very roughly I'd say it happens at least 1 out of 5 hard reboots.

Art
I do only full installs and have had problem with black screen at bootup about one in three times. Also, used the menu at bottom of screen to restart x, which solves the problem.

I changed grub to read as follows:

# Linux bootable partition config begins
title Precise 5.4 on /dev/sdb1)
root (hd1,0)
kernel /boot/vmlinuz root=/dev/sdb1 ro vga=normal

previously read:

# Linux bootable partition config begins
title Precise 5.4 on /dev/sdb1)
root (hd1,0)
kernel /boot/vmlinuz root=/dev/sdb1 ro pmedia=atahd

I have rebooted five times and worked correctly each time.

Hope this helps your situation

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#43 Post by cthisbear »

Peebee has supplied >> Pet Fixes on the next page
for my Frisbee and Broadcom43 issues.
Dell Studio XPS

Many thanks for your latest efforts.

I will list them here for any newbies with the same problem.

peebee Fixes for Frisbee and Broadcom B43

Frisbee+xpupsay-beta2-0912.pet >>> Direct download
Version 2 - for Precise only -

http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... h&id=59213

The multi-kernel Broadcom-STA wl wifi driver pet has now been modified to directly support Precise 5.4.

broadcom_sta_v5.100.82.112_patched_x86_32-multi.pet
Direct download

http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... h&id=56158

:::::::::::

Acer Netbook >> eMachines eM350-21G16i

Atheros 9285 wireless >> working

However after Frisbee installed this rare event happened with
Precise on the Acer.... The Dell was fine.

" Sometimes....very infrequently in Frisbee you have to

>> delete your profiles

Restart

>> Hit Connect

Frisbee starts...

Select >> Wireless Diagnostics

Select Ap_scan

Change the >> Ap_scan Parameter

from 1 to >> 2
for a better connection to a hidden network

Exit Frisbee

Hit Connect >> Frisbee starts...>>

Hit Wireless Network refresh

A few moments later...networks reappear

Fill in your details...and Frisbee connects.


"""""""""""""

Grumbling: >>> B43 Broadcom.

Have we ever heard of this nightmare??
Most of our devs have squashed this.

Except Precise Puppy 5.4.

When we are downloading a Puppy of this size
expectations are that maybe this time, wireless will work.

What is one of the biggest whinges here on Murga..
Wireless...
time and time again.

And the help participation rate on the forum
has been a bit lax lately.
No digs here.
Some really useful advice as always.
People who go out of there way to help.

But people have a life.....need a break etc.

The fact is that most newbies downloading Puppy
won't know we offer other Puppies or Puplets that have fixed
this issue.

And there is plenty of Broadcom hardware out there.
So onto the forum they will arrive.
With the lovely Vista....what a combo.

And why is there no Frisbee alternative??
Have it in the menu under network as a Pet file.
As in other Puppies.

Click on it and it installs.

jemimah did sterling work with Pwireless2 and Frisbee.

Even the Saluki last releases fixed my wireless woes.

Personally I wouldn't touch Dell if you paid me.
But the price was right....Zero...
and I'm glad I've been able to hunt down this issue.

""""""""

Why do I often cite this >> pemasu release,
as my pick for wifi problems???.

DpupExprimo5X327

because it's just so good with Broadcom chipsets.

http://smokey01.com/pemasu/DpupSqueeze5 ... primo5X327

squeeze-5.X.3.2.7-SCSI.iso 23-Feb-2012 15:36 150M

::::::::

peebee along with others has addressed B43 issues for many Pups.

" Broadcom-STA "wl" wifi drivers - repository of latest

A Peebee-Rerwin co-production. "

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=76495

http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 5&start=17

"""""""""

Here are a few posts of mine.

http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... start=1755

Why not Frisbee.....for wireless.????

:::::

" Chris,

Seems to be some weird doubling up of some firmwares

try this in the terminal

Code:
rm /lib/modules/all-firmware/b43/lib/firmware/b43/*


Reboot

If that fails, I'm compiling the proprietary driver for broadcom known as "wl". I'll post a pet later.

Cheers "

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... &start=330

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slacko 5.3.3, final

RC is out :

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... &start=360

" I did try Peebees patch on the previous release....today.
It saw the wireless but failed to find interface???? "

But

" RC is out :

And it worketh on the dreaded Dell. "

::::::::

Booting from other Puppies shows...

BROADCOM

bcmwl6.inf

DriverVer=07/07/2009, 5.30.21.0

CatalogFile =BCM43XX.CAT

CatalogFile.NTamd64=BCM43XX64.CAT

:::::

/lib/modules/3.2.7-dpup/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/b43/b43.ko

firmware: b43/ucode9.fw
firmware: b43/ucode5.fw
firmware: b43/ucode16_mimo.fw
firmware: b43/ucode15.fw
firmware: b43/ucode14.fw
firmware: b43/ucode13.fw
firmware: b43/ucode11.fw

license: GPL
author: Rafał Miłecki
author: Gábor Stefanik
author: Michael Buesch
author: Stefano Brivio
author: Martin Langer

description: Broadcom B43 wireless driver

alias: pcmcia:m02D0c0476f*fn*pfn*pa*pb*pc*pd*
alias: pcmcia:m02D0c0448f*fn*pfn*pa*pb*pc*pd*
alias: ssb:v4243id0812rev10*
alias: ssb:v4243id0812rev0F*
alias: ssb:v4243id0812rev0D*
alias: ssb:v4243id0812rev0C*
alias: ssb:v4243id0812rev0B*
alias: ssb:v4243id0812rev0A*
alias: ssb:v4243id0812rev09*
alias: ssb:v4243id0812rev07*
alias: ssb:v4243id0812rev06*
alias: ssb:v4243id0812rev05*
depends: ssb,mac80211,mmc_core,cfg80211
intree: Y

vermagic: 3.2.7-dpup SMP mod_unload modversions 686


DESCRIPTION:
Network controller:
Broadcom Corporation

BCM4322 802.11a/b/g/n Wireless LAN Controller

VENDOR: 14e4 DEVICE: 432b
KERNEL DRIVER: b43-pci-bridge

Operating System: Dpup Exprimo 5.X.3.2.7

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From Saluki

Network controller

Broadcom Corporation

BCM4322 802.11a/b/g/n Wireless LAN Controller

filename: /lib/modules/3.2.7-dpup/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/b43/b43.ko
firmware: b43/ucode9.fw
firmware: b43/ucode5.fw
firmware: b43/ucode16_mimo.fw
firmware: b43/ucode15.fw
firmware: b43/ucode14.fw
firmware: b43/ucode13.fw
firmware: b43/ucode11.fw

description: Broadcom B43 wireless driver
alias: pcmcia:m02D0c0476f*fn*pfn*pa*pb*pc*pd*
alias: pcmcia:m02D0c0448f*fn*pfn*pa*pb*pc*pd*
alias: ssb:v4243id0812rev10*
alias: ssb:v4243id0812rev0F*
alias: ssb:v4243id0812rev0D*
alias: ssb:v4243id0812rev0C*
alias: ssb:v4243id0812rev0B*
alias: ssb:v4243id0812rev0A*
alias: ssb:v4243id0812rev09*
alias: ssb:v4243id0812rev07*
alias: ssb:v4243id0812rev06*
alias: ssb:v4243id0812rev05*
depends: ssb,mac80211,mmc_core,cfg80211
intree: Y
vermagic: 3.2.7-dpup SMP mod_unload modversions 686
parm: bad_frames_preempt:enable(1) / disable(0) Bad Frames Preemption (int)


DESCRIPTION: Network controller:
Broadcom Corporation

BCM4322 802.11a/b/g/n Wireless LAN Controller

VENDOR: 14e4 DEVICE: 432b
KERNEL DRIVER: b43-pci-bridge

Operating System: Dpup Exprimo 5.X.3.2.7
Desktop Window Manager: JWM vsvn-579
Desktop Start: xwin jwm

:::::::::::::

From Saluki

Network controller

Broadcom Corporation

BCM4322 802.11a/b/g/n Wireless LAN Controller

"""""""

Let us not have a recent blog moment like last week,
and cheese you off....OK.

a la ATM.

http://bkhome.org/blog/?viewDetailed=03041

Sound...Video are otherwise good.

"""""""""

I nearly forgot to add that DpupExprimo5X327

has 117 B43 components???

yours has 39.

Chris.
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#44 Post by puppyluvr »

:D Hello,
@BK..
Sorry so late to reply, but Precise works fine for my Compaq CQ-56 with a Celeron and Intel graphics and sound.. Everything worked OOTB, (of course) and the devx as well.....
You are the rock... Always...
I have a few machines to test it on, so I will be back.. 8)
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Re: Saving to SDcard

#45 Post by bigpup »

mavrothal wrote:Before we get to an all out relegion, freedom of speech/choice etc debate :roll: ...
Did anyone tried to boot from an SDcard and then save to the entire SDcard partition?
I can see the files there after reboot but puppy keeps booting to pupmode 5, as for the first time.
It would appear that the issue is with the rc.shutdown but before I start digging would be good to know if is not something specific to my card/hardware.
Besides is getting late tonight
Did you format the SDcard in a Linux format?
I think that is required when saving to entire partition.

From how Puppy works:
Puppy can take over an entire partition in which to save. The choice of file or partition depends on whether a partition is a Linux filesystem -- if only a FAT filesystem, then only a pup_save.3fs file can be created.
The things they do not tell you, are usually the clue to solving the problem.
When I was a kid I wanted to be older.... This is not what I expected :shock:
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Can't highlight (but can select) text in SeaMonkey

#46 Post by dennis-slacko531 »

Really incredible distro Barry! Thank You

This might already known, but maybe not. It happens in the SeaMonkey browser & composer. It doesn't happen in Geany for example...

Quite simply selecting text with the <-- --> keys works but does not highlight the text. Same thing with the mouse pointer, it does select it and copy/paste works, but it doesn't show (kind of blindly going at it...but it does work).

Well, I've tried the Mouse/Keyboard Wizard, nothing. It's never been a problem, I'll try more.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
UPDATE & SOLVED: After using SeaMonkey a few days, I see there is indeed some highlighting, it's just very faint.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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Re: Saving to SDcard

#47 Post by mavrothal »

bigpup wrote:
mavrothal wrote:Before we get to an all out relegion, freedom of speech/choice etc debate :roll: ...
Did anyone tried to boot from an SDcard and then save to the entire SDcard partition?
I can see the files there after reboot but puppy keeps booting to pupmode 5, as for the first time.
It would appear that the issue is with the rc.shutdown but before I start digging would be good to know if is not something specific to my card/hardware.
Besides is getting late tonight
Did you format the SDcard in a Linux format?
I think that is required when saving to entire partition.
Yes of course!
I did try another card and is the same thing. So is not the card
Actually one card had Luci saved to the entire partition before and still failed with precise (and yes I also removed the whiteouts). Putted back Luci and works fine.
Saving to a file in Precise-5.4 on the same SDcards, works fine.
So looks like a bug.

Luci was the last puppy I installed saving to an entire SDcard partition and since then many things changed in puppy's init/rc.sysinit/rc.shutdown that could cause this
So again,
Did anybody booted Precise (or any recent woof-based puppy) from an (ext2/3/4 formatted) SDcard and saved to the entire SDcard partition succesfully?
Thx


Latter: This IS a bug! I replaced the precise initrd/init with the one from Lucid 5.1 (last entry: "#100520 pkeys boot param wasn't working for 'uk', 'dvorak'."). Sure enough the saved partitione was recognized the layered file system set and everything was OK.!!!
Putting back the original precise initrd/init in the already set and working (with the luci init) system, fails again and boots to pupmode 5.
From the little that I checked with the failing init the SDcard partitions are detected and logged OK in initrd, so it probably has to do with the logic of determining that the entire mmcblk[0-9]p[0-9], sd[a-z][1-9] is used.
Unfortunately there is a 1700 lines of code difference between the two init files and a massive "find files" rewrite. So I guess is up to Barry.

Latter Later: Turns out that precise also fails to find the files when saving to an entire USB stick partition, not just an SDcard.!

Com'n guys and gals ... Did anybody booted Precise (or any recent woof-based puppy) from an (ext2/3/4 formatted) SDcard or USB stick and "saved to the entire partition" succesfully? ie on reboot the and saved data was recognized and used by puppy.
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#48 Post by pemasu »

Grumbling: >>> B43 Broadcom.
Have we ever heard of this nightmare??
Most of our devs have squashed this.
Except Precise Puppy 5.4.
From linux wireless b43 page:
http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drive ... oned_above

If you are using the b43 driver from 3.2 kernel or newer:
After installing b43-fwcutter, download version 5.100.138 of Broadcom's proprietary driver and extract the firmware from it:
1 export FIRMWARE_INSTALL_DIR="/lib/firmware"
2 wget http://www.lwfinger.com/b43-firmware/br ... 38.tar.bz2
3 tar xjf broadcom-wl-5.100.138.tar.bz2
4 sudo b43-fwcutter -w "$FIRMWARE_INSTALL_DIR" broadcom-wl-5.100.138/linux/wl_apsta.o
download version 5.100.138 of Broadcom's proprietary driver and extract the firmware from it

I just have that newer firmware package in dpups with 3.2.X kernels and newer. Precise Puppy still uses the older b43 firmware package. That could be reason that not all b43 chips works.

People with b43 driver not working situation, could check what dmesg outputs. It could produce b43 needed firmware loading error. Then my post included pet might help.

Here is attached as pet my used b43 firmware folder. Remove first all firmwares from the folder:
/lib/modules/all-firmware/b43/lib/firmware/b43/*
Then install the pet. This is for those broadcom chips which use b43 driver and the firmware does not seem to work. And this is only my hunch of the problem.

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#49 Post by peebee »

cthisbear wrote:Grumbling: >>> B43 Broadcom.
Why not Frisbee.....for wireless.????
Chris,
Hi Chris

For Frisbee for Precise see:
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 2&start=85
use Version 2 for Precise

Cheers
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#50 Post by badair »

I'll seed for as long as I can! Thanks so much to you other seeders... That saved me over half an hour of download time.

I actually discovered puppy linux today. I've been a casual ubuntu user for awhile, so I'm still pretty new to linux. I'm trying to create a custom multiboot usb with grub4dos right now (I understand there are some issues with puppy, but I'm determined to get it to work).

I may even do away with my HDD ubuntu install and just use puppy. I'm about to load it for the first time in QEMU.

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black screen

#51 Post by drblock2 »

I have also had occasional black screens with tool bar on booting. I have followed Shinobar's suggestion and will report back:
I propose putting more sleep, simply for all hardware. I mean more sleep at line 57: sleep 1 #let the dust settle after X has started. 120718 reduce 2 to 1.

I propose: sleep 1 ===> sleep 4

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#52 Post by smokey01 »

This may help.

http://www.smokey01.com/videos/Puppy_on_Flash.mpeg

badair wrote:I'll seed for as long as I can! Thanks so much to you other seeders... That saved me over half an hour of download time.

I actually discovered puppy linux today. I've been a casual ubuntu user for awhile, so I'm still pretty new to linux. I'm trying to create a custom multiboot usb with grub4dos right now (I understand there are some issues with puppy, but I'm determined to get it to work).

I may even do away with my HDD ubuntu install and just use puppy. I'm about to load it for the first time in QEMU.

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Broadcom wl wifi driver for Precise

#53 Post by peebee »

The multi-kernel Broadcom-STA wl wifi driver pet has now been modified to directly support Precise 5.4.

Download from:
broadcom_sta_v5.100.82.112_patched_x86_32-multi.pet
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Puppy-Universal-Installer crashes

#54 Post by boon »

Hi, I already posted this in the beginners section.

I got following problem. Trying to do a full install of Precise on my hard drive, Puppy-Universal-Installer crashes after selecting the partition to install to. When I start puppyinstaller from console, I get:
** (gtkdialog4:4524): ERROR **: gtkdialog: Error in line 5, near token '</label>': syntax error

Any idea what is going on?
Thank you for the great work, boon

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#55 Post by artsown »

shinobar and Barry ... concerning the so-called black screen at
bootup issue, I'd be happy to test a modified 5.4 with the larger
wait states on my three PCs here. I would do at least 10 hard
bootups on all three machines.

Art

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Pretty nice

#56 Post by Blammo2525 »

Just playing around with it a bit.Interesting collection of packages defaulted.Fast and smoothe.
Is there a good tutorial on HDD install "along side" like every other Ubuntu derivative offers ?

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#57 Post by don570 »

Blammo wrote:Is there a good tutorial on HDD install "along side" like every other Ubuntu derivative offers ?
It is called a 'Full install' when a full partition is used by a Linux distro.
The standard linux folders will be created such as /usr, /root, /mnt ....

A 'Frugal install' allows another operating system to be pre-installed
on the same partition. This is the most popular method by Puppy users.

Go to this page and click 'Installation' for useful information...

http://puppylinux.org/wikka/HomePage

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#58 Post by kooliepup »

Just so Blammo doesn't get too frustrated by being told how Puppy does things, the answer to the question he asked is NO.

For those who have not experienced how Ubuntu and others easily install alongside others by splitting a partition, it is something that would be cool to have in Puppy, but as Puppy was only designed for full installation as an alternative option, it may never happen.

It would be helpful to prospective users to have it brought to their attention some way, that Puppy is meant for frugal install as a first preference.

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#59 Post by Blammo2525 »

kooliepup wrote:Just so Blammo doesn't get too frustrated by being told how Puppy does things, the answer to the question he asked is NO.

For those who have not experienced how Ubuntu and others easily install alongside others by splitting a partition, it is something that would be cool to have in Puppy, but as Puppy was only designed for full installation as an alternative option, it may never happen.

It would be helpful to prospective users to have it brought to their attention some way, that Puppy is meant for frugal install as a first preference.
Thanks. I opted for boot-run to memory via cd and save session to USB. It's cool but IMNSHO the installer is complete idiocy.
I like the setup and may alter a few things and re-do it with remastersys. The package manager is a bit of a farce as well.

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Black screens just about anywhere anytime -only with PAE

#60 Post by davids45 »

G'day,
Precise-5.4 PAE has failed on my 2GB RAM desktop with a black screen every time I've managed to get it running (some blackies during starting). Only as a manual Frugal (files copied from the mounted iso) on my frugals partition (40GB of 49GB used, ~8GB free). The iso checksum is correct.
Not being able to create a Save file with the Frugal 5.4 (fails on shutting down when I've got that far :roll: ), I tried copying an existing Save file from an earlier Precise Frugal (.97) which was upgraded to 5.4 during starting up. But this froze after about 5 minutes.
I also tried a forum suggestion to use "vga=normal" in the grub menu but booting this way the 5.4 eventually froze or black-screened.

I have a Radeon HD5450 graphics card which has had lots of Save-file issues with Ubuntu/Debian Frugal Pups such that I regularly replace the default linux radeon driver with the proprietary ati pet. I wasn't able to load up the fglrx driver before getting a black screen with 5.4. And couldn't get vesa to work trying the videowizard route.

I had occasional freezes/black-screens with very recent Precises (.96, .97) but these were as nothing compared to 5.4 on my desktop.

Anyway, slackos, Racys and Exprimos (with flgrx) all work very well (including pemasu's early go at doing a Precise-based Pup), so I don't need the imprecise Precise to play around with.

Pity though.

David S.

PS: Precise54-Retro on the other hand has worked perfectly on my (confirmed) PAE-enabled desktop. Frugal & Full RetroPrecises both installed simply and have operated with no freezing nor black screens.
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