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pemasu


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PostPosted: Mon 15 Oct 2012, 15:50    Post subject:  Dpup Exprimo 5.X.3.6.2.1 with kernel 3.6.2
Subject description: Debian squeeze packages based dpup, built using woof2 and kernel-kit
 

Dpup Exprimo 5.X.3.6.2.1 with 3.6.2 kernel has been released.
Aufs 3.6 was announced today and I couldnt resist. I downloaded kernel 3.6.2. And I recompiled the kernel couple of times and here is 3.6.2 kernel Dpup for testing.

The woof version and applications are the same as in Dpup Exprimo 5.X.3.4.12.

This release is for getting possible feedback about 3.6.2 kernel and usage of it in Puppy. There might be changes which need to be faced.

Download link: http://www.smokey01.com/pemasu/DpupSqueeze5X/DpupExprimo5X3621/

Kernel sources: http://www.smokey01.com/pemasu/Kernel_sources/kernel-3.6.2-dpup/
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mikeslr


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PostPosted: Mon 15 Oct 2012, 20:33    Post subject: Initial Report -- AOK  

Hi pemasu,

Great work again. My specs:
Processor: 4x AMD Phenom(tm) II X4 945 Processor
Memory: 3375MB
ATI Radeon 3100 Graphics supporting 1600x900 pixels
RaLink RT2561/RT61 802.11g PCI
SB [HDA ATI SB], device 0: VT1708B Analog
SB {HDA ATI SB], device 1: VT1708B Digital

Sound and wireless worked OOTB. Installed amd_fglrx_catalyst-12.6-K3.4.2-dpup.pet to see if it would work. Installed OK. Rebooted. Called up console & typed "aticonfig --initial" which was accepted. Rebooted into 1600x900 desktop using fglrx driver. Perhaps you can drop the k3.4.2 designation from the pet.
More later.

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James C


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Location: Kentucky

PostPosted: Mon 15 Oct 2012, 22:41    Post subject:  

Dpup Exprimo 5.X.3.6.2.1 live pfix=ram.
Sound and internet working and as expected booted to a black screen with "monitor out of range" message. Did ctrl/alt/bksp to xorgwizard and got correct resolution.

# report-video
Report Video 1.4 - Mon 15 Oct 2012 on Dpup Exprimo 5.X.3.6.2.1 - Linux 3.6.2-dpup i686

Chip description:
d.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation C61 [GeForce 7025 / nForce 630a] (rev a2)
oem: NVIDIA
product: MCP61 - mcp61-86 Chip Rev

X Server: Xorg Driver used: nv

X.Org version: 1.7.7
dimensions: 1368x768 pixels (414x232 millimeters)
depth of root window: 24 planes

...the above also recorded in /tmp/root/ as report-video,
and archived with xorg.conf and Xorg.0.log as report-video-full.gz
#
-Computer-
Processor : 4x AMD Athlon(tm) II X4 620 Processor
Memory : 2853MB (194MB used)
Operating System : Unknown distribution
User Name : root (root)
Date/Time : Mon 15 Oct 2012 09:40:19 PM CDT
-Display-
Resolution : 1368x768 pixels
OpenGL Renderer : Unknown
X11 Vendor : The X.Org Foundation
-Multimedia-
Audio Adapter : HDA-Intel - HDA NVidia

Install on the Athlon XP box in a bit.
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James C


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PostPosted: Mon 15 Oct 2012, 23:42    Post subject:  

Manual frugal install on the Athlon XP box. Display,sound and internet all working and correct on initial boot. No difficulties yet.

# report-video
Report Video 1.4 - Mon 15 Oct 2012 on Dpup Exprimo 5.X.3.6.2.1 - Linux 3.6.2-dpup i686

Chip description:
0.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV18 [GeForce4 MX 440 AGP 8x] (rev c1)
oem: NVidia
product: NV18 () Board Chip Rev A2

X Server: Xorg Driver used: nv

X.Org version: 1.7.7
dimensions: 1440x900 pixels (411x263 millimeters)
depth of root window: 16 planes

...the above also recorded in /tmp/root/ as report-video,
and archived with xorg.conf and Xorg.0.log as report-video-full.gz
#
-Computer-
Processor : AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2400+
Memory : 1033MB (191MB used)
Operating System : Unknown distribution
User Name : root (root)
Date/Time : Mon 15 Oct 2012 10:41:22 PM CDT
-Display-
Resolution : 1440x900 pixels
OpenGL Renderer : Unknown
X11 Vendor : The X.Org Foundation
-Multimedia-
Audio Adapter : VIA8233 - VIA 8235
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sszindian


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PostPosted: Tue 16 Oct 2012, 00:22    Post subject: Exprimo 5.X.3.6.2.1  

Exprimo 5.X.3.6.2.1

Very nice....

Everything that worked in version-12 works very well here in 3.6.2.1!

Don't know exactly what advantages the new kernel will provide for puppy but I'm sure it eventually make it self known as more testers dig in!

One thing I do notice, my box seems to run with less fan noise than before and CPU temp is cooler.

Keep up the excellent work!!!!!

I do believe Exprimo should make it to Distrowatch prime-time as an 'OFFICIAL PUPPY'!

>>>---Indian------>
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pemasu


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PostPosted: Tue 16 Oct 2012, 04:07    Post subject:  

Quote:
One thing I do notice, my box seems to run with less fan noise than before and CPU temp is cooler.


That happens for me also with my quad core acer laptop. My laptop runs significantly cooler with this kernel.

Quote:
Don't know exactly what advantages the new kernel will provide for puppy


Well...this is experimental test how well this kernel behaves. Also...newer kernels provide updated drivers. Which means that all the time new chip id`s have been added to the drivers and now and then wholly new drivers pop up with new kernel versions.

http://kernelnewbies.org/Linux_3.6_DriverArch#head-9e928a9734f0b8fbfa73e57834449a109377e8b9
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backi

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PostPosted: Tue 16 Oct 2012, 04:49    Post subject:  

Hi pemasu !
Updated from 5X4.12 to 5X.3.6.2.1 with old savefile . (installed on Usb stick ) .
Posting from it now .
Cant find any Problemes . In case , i will do .

Maybe it is just my fantasy ,but seems feeling more snappy .

You should call this derivat " Pitbull-Power Puppy " .

You are a maniac .

Cheers!!!
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backi

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PostPosted: Tue 16 Oct 2012, 06:14    Post subject:  

I am not quite sure if this is a bit off topic .

But seems very important .
Make it viral .
http://cyberwarzone.com/cyberwarfare/new-anonymous-operation-mayhem-2012-code-tyler
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Billtoo


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Location: Ontario Canada

PostPosted: Tue 16 Oct 2012, 06:29    Post subject: Dpup Exprimo 5.X.3.6.2.1 with kernel 3.6.2  

Running from live dvd on Gateway desktop pc.

Report Video 1.4 - Tue 16 Oct 2012 on Dpup Exprimo 5.X.3.6.2.1 -
Linux 3.6.2-dpup i686

Chip description:
0.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation Device 1082 (rev a1)
oem: NVIDIA
product: GF110 Board - 12630002 Chip Rev

X Server: Xorg Driver used: nvidia

X.Org version: 1.7.7
dimensions: 1920x1080 pixels (513x292 millimeters)
depth of root window: 24 planes

OpenGL
Vendor NVIDIA Corporation
Renderer GeForce GTX 560 Ti/PCIe/SSE2
Version 4.2.0 NVIDIA 304.51
Direct Rendering Yes

# glxgears
Running synchronized to the vertical refresh. The framerate should be
approximately the same as the monitor refresh rate.
302 frames in 5.0 seconds = 60.371 FPS
301 frames in 5.0 seconds = 60.001 FPS
301 frames in 5.0 seconds = 60.000 FPS

That's it so far, still testing.

EDIT: I was able to download audacious from ppm but I couldn't get it to run, I was able to compile an older version (3.2.2) and it is working okay.
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backi

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PostPosted: Tue 16 Oct 2012, 08:28    Post subject:  

Hi everyone !

This Distro is a dream . It runs so smooth and mellow on my old Toshiba Satellite 3000 , on my Desktop-computer and on a small HP Dell-notebook .Compared to those bad old Windows days my live has became a kind of digital wellness trip since .

Thanks alot pemasu and Barry Kauler and all you keen unnamed Linux and Puppy developers , to help me escape from those Orwellian digital FEMA-Camp nightmare called Windows -Microsoft .

Wish you a merry christmas and a happy new year .!
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anikin

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PostPosted: Tue 16 Oct 2012, 10:46    Post subject:  

I too can confirm this build runs snappier and cooler on my eeepc. Something has changed in it, you can feel the difference. It is not huge, but noticeable.
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charlie6

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PostPosted: Tue 16 Oct 2012, 14:13    Post subject: Re: Exprimo 5.X.3.6.2.1  

Hi sszindian ...!
sszindian wrote:
Exprimo 5.X.3.6.2.1
Very nice....
Everything that worked in version-12 works very well here in 3.6.2.1!
...
>>>---Indian------>

just one question ... does your current PC still run with Brookdale 82845G video chip ..? (reference to X black screen issue)
Cheers, Charlie
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ETP


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Location: UK

PostPosted: Tue 16 Oct 2012, 14:33    Post subject: Dpup Exprimo 5.X.3.6.2.1 with kernel 3.6.2.1
Subject description: Brief test
 

Hi pemasu,
Fresh manual frugal install to USB2 fat32 flash drive with syslinux 4.04 boot. (Pentium D 3.4 MHz)
Initial boot to desktop with NV driver @ 1920x1080 60Hz 16bit, working sound and wired ethernet.

Manually installed the 304.51 Nvidia driver, then installed & tested the following pets:

    fontwizard-0.0.1|Configure fonts for LCD
    chromium-19-dpup|Browse the Web
    getflash-1.2|GetFlash Install Flashplayer
    flashplayer11-11.2.202.243|Adobe Flash Player 11 browser plugin and Preferences. Note, this may not work on older PCs, use instead an earlier 11.x or even 10.x
    qt-4.8.0-basic-with-qtwebkit-dpup|no description provided
    smplayer-0.8.1|Add file(s) to the SMPlayer playlist
    faenza_lrx_new|
    mplayer2-vdpau-17062012|no description provided

I struggled to get chromium to recognise the latest flash player but when I disabled the earlier one in "about:plugins" all was well. DVB-T worked fine with
smplayer using XV. I have yet to try vdpau with some test files.

This is an extremely polished and comprehensive pup. I agree that it is marginally quicker and uses a lot less memory. OOTB it was only using 68 meg and after I disabled
a few laptop & wireless related items it went down to 52 meg which is incredible!

Many thanks for all your hard work and this excellent pup.

Link to full size image: http://s13.postimage.org/3shg6lslz/largeexp.png


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PostPosted: Tue 16 Oct 2012, 15:28    Post subject:  

Report Video 1.4 - Tue 16 Oct 2012 on Dpup Exprimo 5.X.3.6.2.1 - Linux 3.6.2-dpup i686

Chip description:
2.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82852/855GM Integrated Graphics Device (rev 02)
oem: Intel(r)852MG/852MGE/855MG/855MGE Graphics Chip Accelerated VGA BIOS
product: Intel(r)852MG/852MGE/855MG/855MGE Graphics Controller Hardware Version 0.0

X Server: Xorg Driver used: intel
X.Org version: 1.7.7
dimensions: 1024x768 pixels (270x203 millimeters)
depth of root window: 16 planes

Manual frugal to sda and all seems good so far. Seems very fast. This is nice.
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PostPosted: Tue 16 Oct 2012, 16:14    Post subject: Dpup Exprimo 5.X.3.6.2.1 with kernel 3.6.2
Subject description: Testing
 

Hi pemasu,

Sorry to have to report a problem with the USB stick install. At close of play I decided via PupControl to increase the size of the ext4 save-file having only started with a small one.

Upon reboot I was greeted with a kernel panic and a vfs block error which forced me to do a hard shutdown. Rebooting into another pup (Slacko 5.3.3.2) on the same stick but in an entirely different directory, I was amazed when it proceeded to increase the save file size.

It would appear that the flag (to increase the size) was placed incorrectly there and Exprimo did not see the new size of save-file that it was expecting and became rabid. Smile

I have not seen this behaviour before when increasing save-file sizes on a stick holding multiple pups.

It may be to do with this:
Quote:
Savefile creation at first shutdown happens now in X

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