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don570


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PostPosted: Tue 14 Aug 2012, 17:10    Post_subject: September arrival of new MK802  

September arrival of new MK802

Quote from kimdecent.com

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Following the most hot sell MK802 Mini PC, we will release the MK802 II.

What is new with MK802 II comparing with MK802?

--- Same SoC solution: Allwinner A10 Powered.

---HDMI Plug in intead of HDMI Cable connection. More convenient.

--- 3 USB port. With 2 x micro and 1 x standard.

--- More RAM--- 1GB RAM and 8GB Nand Flash on board.

--- resolve the over-heat problem. The New design apply holes for heat radiation.

--- Software improvement. Will develop more functions to the device. Including DLAN, etc.







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PostPosted: Tue 14 Aug 2012, 18:08    Post_subject:  

Don that one look very interesting then.
http://kimdecent.com/newrelease/24.html

I wonder if that one is easy to change to Puppy then?
Did not Barry work on an Mk802? Or maybe it is Mele 1000?

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PostPosted: Wed 15 Aug 2012, 19:53    Post_subject: The first mention of porting Puppy Linux to MK802  

The first mention of porting Puppy Linux to MK802 over month ago

The guy in this video is well-known in the Mac community.
He edited MacWorld magazine for years. He's one of the
best computer journalists in the US.

http://liliputing.com/2012/07/rikomagic-mk802-ii-to-sport-3-usb-ports-full-sized-hdmi.html

There are two mailorder houses that have begun to sell
the new version II. Price is reasonable $70US
British and American

Here's a picture of MK802 running Puppy linux



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PostPosted: Thu 16 Aug 2012, 03:48    Post_subject:  

Looks interesting and cool that they
try to solve the overheating by using
small air holes for venting. Smile

My main need is to have USB mouse and
USB keyboard and USB external HD
but that one maybe not is needed if
one can save on the SD card. and
later transfer what got saved to the HD.

But what I wonder about is this Hub
that is needed to connect to the standard USB
on MK802 that one need to be compatible with it.

I will wait for reports that it works out first.
Better safe than sorry.

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PostPosted: Thu 16 Aug 2012, 20:11    Post_subject:  

BEWARE! They keep their profit margin up by
not including a power supply. The USB out port of
most computers just doesn't have enough juice
to supply the power needed because there is a limit of 500 mA!!!

700ma to 1000ma is needed at least. Fortunately they're cheap.

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PostPosted: Wed 05 Sep 2012, 21:35    Post_subject: Mini X player
Sub_title: Another A10 platform
 

I order a MiniX Android 4.0 Multimedia Player off of Evil-bay. It shares most of the Mk802 features.

http://www.pineriver.cn/eshowProDetail.asp?ProID=1531

The one I ordered is a newer 1GB DDR3 version. I hope to run either Lucid Puppy 5.2.+ on it or maybe Akita Linux off a micro SD card since it's a single core CPU.

I'll keep you guys informed. This looks a serious option for off grid applications as it only draws 800 mAH @ 5v.
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PostPosted: Wed 05 Sep 2012, 22:49    Post_subject:  

...er, neither of those are compatible. ARM is not x86. (Wiki those two terms if you don't know what they are Wink )

You're looking at PARM -- Puppy on ARM. TBH I'm not sure if that exists except for RasPi right now.

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PostPosted: Thu 06 Sep 2012, 02:55    Post_subject: PARM  

I see the screenshot with Puppy loaded on the Mk-802 but the article doesn't say which version ie PupPi Alpha 4. The MiniX/1gb DDR3 has got quite a bit more potential on spec than the Raspberry board. There's also the Hackberry dev board over at MiniAnd.com. Will PupPi A-4 work on the MiniX?
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PostPosted: Thu 20 Sep 2012, 17:06    Post_subject:  

From Allwinner website here are pictures of A10 followed by
the simpler A13 which has no HDMI out port







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PostPosted: Fri 21 Sep 2012, 17:23    Post_subject:  

i just got my momo8 bird a10 tablet in... will try to see if i can handle gettign puppy to run on it this weekend.
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PostPosted: Sat 22 Sep 2012, 12:01    Post_subject:  

Quote:

Ployer Momo8 Bird Specification
CPU: All Winner A10 1.2GHz
GPU: MALI 0.4GHz (1.6GHz combined)
Operating System: Android 4.0.4
System Memory: 1GB DDR3
Display Resolution: 1024 * 768
Display Size: 8 Inches
Display Type: G + G (Glass screen + Glass touchpad) Ultra High Resolution - 16million colour combinations
Touchscreen: 5 point multi touch Capacitive
Camera: Front Mounted 1.3 Megapixel
Speaker: Integrated rear speaker
Internal Memory: 8GB
External Memory: supports micro SD, up to 32GB
Gravity Sensor: 4-Way
Flash: Pre-installed with Flash 11.1
Music: MP3; WMA; WAV; APE; AAC; FLAC; OGG
Video: 2160p Ultra HD Decoder allowing Full HD Out, 1080 & 2160P, AVI; MOV; MP4; RMVB; FLV; MKV, SRT, SUB, SSA, ASS, SMI, embedded subtitle display
eBook: TXT; PDF; HTML; RTF; FB2
e-Mail & Internet: Fully supported and pre-loaded
WIFI: 802.11 b/g/n
Battery: 4400 MAh (6 hours video playback, 20 hours audio)
Languages: English; Czech; Danish; Dutch; Norwegien; Portuguese; Swedish; Turkish; German; Italian; French; Spanish; Polish; Russian; Japanese; Korean; Simplified and Traditional Chinese, and more...
Power: Mains Charger; USB Cable
Connectivity: Micro SD Card port; 3.5mm port; 1 x mini USB port; 1 x mini HDMI; power
Dimensions: 200 x 153 x 9.7mm
Weight: 530g
Packaged Contents:

1 x Ployer Momo8 Bird 8" Android 4.0.4 Tablet PC
UK Mains Charger
USB to mini USB cable
OTG USB adapter (for USB stick; keyboard, etc)
Ployer Headphones
Ployer Screen Cloth
English Manual


You should try to get Barry Kauler's mele distribution to work
on it. I have a similar Android tablet. Unfortunately
I wasn't able to get it to recognize the system software Crying or Very sad

I would be interested in knowing your experience with trying to
boot with Puppy linux.


http://distro.ibiblio.org/quirky/arm/releases/alpha/README-mele-sd-4gb-lui-5.2.90.htm


You should read my experiences with rooting my Hipstreet Flare tablet.
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=80819


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PostPosted: Sat 22 Sep 2012, 18:58    Post_subject: What am I doing wrong?
Sub_title: Puppy Arm on MiniX Plus H24 media player.
 

I followed BK's instructions for writing the PARM OS to a Sandisk, 32gb class 10, micro SD card. The DD wrote 2 partitions to the card, sdb1 is 16mb : eva.bin, mele.bin sys config etc, sdb2 is 4gb in size and had the PARM on it. The MiniX Plus Android recognizes sdb1 but nothing else. BTW for your info, the sdb2 partition was written in ext4. No choice on your part.
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PostPosted: Mon 24 Sep 2012, 20:26    Post_subject:  

I have the same result with my Hipstreet flare.

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PostPosted: Mon 24 Sep 2012, 21:25    Post_subject:  

thanks for the links i'll read through them in a minute... ididn't get a chance to actually try the puppy build.... i made the boot disk but in doing so i first mistakenly made my 500 gb media hard drive a ~4gb puppy boot img. so sort of dealt with that instead this weekend...

luckily the tablet came pre-rooted and i did update the firmware to the latest 4.0.4 ics build they have... it's a shame i'm not allowed to toy with my tablet at work... days like today i would of had a ton of time.
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PostPosted: Tue 16 Oct 2012, 16:13    Post_subject:  

Toronto star has the details about new microsoft tablet
http://www.thestar.com/business/article/1272209--microsoft-prices-surface-tablet-at-499-u-s

Quote:

SEATTLE—Microsoft Corp. will sell its first computer, a device called
Surface RT, for as little as $499 as the software maker pushes into the
tablet market dominated by Apple Inc.’s iPad.

The first iteration of the device, powered by a chip with technology from
ARM Holdings Plc, will be available as a 32- gigabyte model for $499, the
company said in a statement. With a black cover, it will cost $599, and a
64-gigabyte version will be $699. The machine goes OVERPRICED Oct. 26, and
Redmond, Washington-based Microsoft will take a limited number of early
online orders starting at noon Oct. 15.


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