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Aterm terminal emulator and gRun
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Iguleder


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PostPosted: Sat 18 Jun 2011, 11:04    Post subject:  Aterm terminal emulator and gRun
Subject description: Replacements for rxvt-unicode and gExec
 

Here's another terminal emulator. And a gExec replacement.

Both have a menu entry compatible with the XDG specification, so it's especially good if you use E17/Xfce/KDE/whatever and not JWM/Fluxbox/IceWM.

Aterm features:
1) Twice smaller than the traditional rxvt-unicode package used in most puppies.
2) More features than rxvt and its relatives.
3) A cooler name that doesn't match ".*xvt" Laughing

gRun features:
1) gExec has a "Run as root" checkbox ... kinda useless Wink
2) Automatic completion!
3) Minimalistic interface!



They're especially useful for Macpup/Lupu users, since the rxvt-unicode and gExec menu entries are ugly. I built those using build scripts I wrote.

Note that the Aterm menu icon doesn't come from the sources - the build script downloads it from the AfterStep site Laughing
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PostPosted: Sat 18 Jun 2011, 12:45    Post subject:  

Good job !!! I like this build of aterm alot !! Very Happy
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Iguleder


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PostPosted: Sat 18 Jun 2011, 13:01    Post subject:  

Here are the build scripts, have fun Smile

This Aterm thing plays nicely with E17 Smile
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PostPosted: Tue 18 Sep 2012, 20:25    Post subject:
Subject description: also plays nicely with..
 

Yes, not just for afterstep (blackbox, ctwm, e16, fluxbox, fvwm, miwm, treewm to name a few others - didn't see any probs in jwm or ice' either)

Fade option - I'm a big fan of this since it makes when the console is in/out of focus ('live' for input) visually obvious. Good to have another terminal emulator (besides urxvt81 and mrxvt) that offers the fade option. Functional 'eye candy' for the occasionally distracted operator who might otherwise input something really dumb and execute it while wondering "what's up with the text editor?" Wink Laughing

aterm-1.00.01 package is mostly a pull from the aterm-1.0.1 dotpet (noted that that's for lucid but it mostly works in racy 5.3)

Some oddness (only NeXT scrollbar Neutral ) and some things don't seem to work (like 'global' default options done in ~/.Xdefaults Sad ). Probably due to some whatever when it was originally compiled - had no idea what the "XGetDefaults" at the top of aterm -help is about (compile options for the dotpet I'd imagine since I got this from the dev (source)..

--enable-xgetdefault
make resources checking via XGetDefault() instead of our small
version which only checks ~/.Xdefaults, or if that doesn't exist
then ~/.Xresources

..and I haven't got xgetdefault in my pup, so I guess that kind of explains why setting options in ~/.Xdefaults fails (minor pitb putting my full options string in all the various menu entries I have, but no big deal)

Maybe a fresh compile might be in order. Glad I ripped the dotpet apart - overwriting bins and links to point to aterm wouldn't be the way I'd go personally

A few extras in my archive (different icons, the 24 and 48 size I modded a bit from the logo one in afterstep) and a sample options line in the summary.
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L18L

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PostPosted: Thu 20 Sep 2012, 05:49    Post subject: Re: Aterm terminal emulator and gRun
Subject description: Replacements for rxvt-unicode and gExec
 

Iguleder wrote:

Replacement(s) for rxvt-unicode

Having installed your aterm my console wrote:

# öäü Why do you call that a replacement for rxvt-unicode ?


Am I missing something ?
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PostPosted: Thu 20 Sep 2012, 15:22    Post subject:
Subject description: odd chars
 

hi L18L

Yah, when the aterm dotpet 'replaces' u/rxvt with syms to aterm itself (and 'loses' the font tweaks in ~/.Xdefaults since it's using xgetdefault instead Rolling Eyes ), strange things may happen. That's one of the reasons I wouldn't do an outright replace/overwrite of the oem terminal emulator - I used to do something almost similar (with urxvt81 as urxvt, but then I sym'd rxvt back to a renamed urxvtOEM), but don't anymore (issues in racy 53 for a recent example).

Mostly I've found things work 'better' for me (or at least as expected) if I leave the oem stuff alone and make new workarounds if needed and keep things unique rather than do a 'replace'.

hope that helps

___addenda - aterm - afterstep website, "aterm is deprecated and in a maintenance mode only"..

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PostPosted: Fri 21 Sep 2012, 06:00    Post subject: Aterm terminal emulator
Subject description: no replacement for urxvt / rxvt-unicode
 

Hi `f00,

thanks for your explanation
I was missing or overlooking your previous comment about not replacing

BTW the odd chars are unicodes which aterm does NOT understand.

So let us hope that iguleder will change his subtitle.

aterm is no replacement for urxvt

PS
gexec does not need a replacement just a deletion. IMHO just take rxvt Wink
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PostPosted: Tue 10 Nov 2015, 02:25    Post subject:  

Static linked version - should work in most versions of Puppy.
To get transparent background and fading effect add below to your /root/.Xdefaults:
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aterm*loginShell:true
aterm*transparent:true
aterm*shading:60
aterm*background:Black
aterm*foreground:White
aterm*scrollBar:true
aterm*scrollBar_right:false
aterm*transpscrollbar:true
aterm*saveLines:32767
!aterm*font:*-*-fixed-medium-r-normal--*-140-*-*-*-*-iso8859-1
!aterm*boldFont:*-*-fixed-bold-r-normal--*-*-140-*-*-*-*-iso8859-1
aterm*fading:60
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L18L

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PostPosted: Tue 10 Nov 2015, 08:30    Post subject: Re: Aterm terminal emulator  

L18L wrote:
Iguleder wrote:

Replacement(s) for rxvt-unicode

Having installed your aterm my console wrote:

# öäü Why do you call that a replacement for rxvt-unicode ?


Am I missing something ?


But this aterm-1.0.1 can do öäü Very Happy

Thank you goignuts
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PostPosted: Tue 10 Nov 2015, 11:08    Post subject:  

Glad you like it - did not know of a version 1.0.2 - any source link?
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PostPosted: Tue 10 Nov 2015, 11:23    Post subject: Aterm
Subject description: version
 

goingnuts wrote:
Glad you like it - did not know of a version 1.0.2 - any source link?

No source, just what I have seen in this thread.
OP's aterm-1.0.1.pet size 61.25 KB
your aterm-1.0.1.pet size 133.58 KB should be 1.0.2 me thinks Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Tue 10 Nov 2015, 11:39    Post subject:  

Source is from here so it is version 1.0.1. Size difference as mine is static linked (might also be due to different configure settings).
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PostPosted: Tue 10 Nov 2015, 11:51    Post subject:  

goingnuts wrote:
Source is from here so it is version 1.0.1. Size difference as mine is static linked (might also be due to different configure settings).

Ah yes
There are source versions but no pet versions ... Wink
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