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Precise Puppy RC2, October 20, 2012
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BarryK
Puppy Master  Joined: 09 May 2005 Posts: 7184 Location: Perth, Western Australia |
Wrong. This misinformation has been around for a very long time. JWM recognises the Xft format as shown here: http://joewing.net/programs/jwm/fonts.shtml Jwm does not recognise <Font>DejaVu Sans 12</Font>, and instead falls back to using the default GTK font -- which, most likely, is DejaVu Sans, or whatever else has been set as the font in the gtkrc file. I other words, you can put any gibberish into those tags, ex <font>yabby doo dah 12</font> and it will give the same effect. That's my understanding anyway. Correction: Um, no, I don't think that JWM will fall back to using the default GTK font if it can't understand the <font> tag -- probably it will use the default Xft font. _________________ http://bkhome.org/news/ Last edited by BarryK on Thu 20 Sep 2012, 21:38; edited 1 time in total |
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BarryK
Puppy Master Joined: 09 May 2005 Posts: 7184 Location: Perth, Western Australia |
Here it is:
However, I will be including libnspr and libnss in the next release of precise Puppy, so next time that I compile SM, for Ubuntu (and Debian) cases anyway, I will use "--with-system-nspr" and "--with-system-nss". Note, I prefere "--enable-chrome-format=jar", unfortunately that is broken at installation. Another case of inadequate testing -- omni is "flavour of the month" and that is all the developers have bothered to test. [/code] _________________ http://bkhome.org/news/ |
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bigpup
 Joined: 11 Oct 2009 Posts: 5656 Location: Charleston S.C. USA |
Any work being done on fixing the graphics issues, several people have had, with first boot? In general older Nvidia graphics cards do not like Nouveau driver. _________________ I have found, in trying to help people, that the things they do not tell you, are usually the clue to solving the problem. When I was a kid I wanted to be older.... This is not what I expected  |
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Karl Godt
 Joined: 20 Jun 2010 Posts: 4005 Location: Kiel,Germany |
About BOLD fonts : bash-3.00# xlsfonts | grep '[0-9]b.*' 6x13b 7x13b 7x14b 8x13b 9x15b 9x18b
shows a bunch of fonts ie -misc-dejavu sans-bold-o-normal--0-0-0-0-p-0-iso8859-1 but
shows no *dejavu sans-bold* s . * NOT in any Ubuntu based Puppy atm though * |
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gcmartin
 Joined: 14 Oct 2005 Posts: 4642 Location: Earth |
@Barry. Again, I just tested the most recent Beta6. FirstRUN has the same problem. As it turns out, it is NOT SHOWING the LAN tailoring section even though the PC has adapter on the motherboard. It appears that FirstRUN is "keying" on an active wire in the adapter versus merely looking for the adapter ONLY. FirstRUN really should present LAN tailoring no matter if a wire in present in eth0 or NOT. This reduces any need to revisit LAN tailoring steps when a wire is connected or if WiFi is started. Hopefully BK is following this. Here to help _________________ Get ACTIVE Create Circles; Do those good things which benefit people's needs! We are all related ... Its time to show that we know this! 3 Different Puppy Search Engine or use DogPile |
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davids45
 Joined: 26 Nov 2006 Posts: 662 Location: Chatswood, NSW |
G'day, I had earlier reported in this thread, problems with this Precise-Pup version when trying to use the Universal Installer to create a Full Pup using the Frugal's /home directory as the source for the install files - no CD/DVD involved. I thought the problem was fixed by freshly re-formatting the Full's partition before using the Universal Installer. But alas, my (last-time lucky?) Full Precise.5.3.93 was compromised by a non-functioning Pet I had tried and when I took the usual easy way out by re-installing the Full from the Frugal, the computer froze during the "copying files" step, and has each time I have tried the Universal Installer. I increased the size of the Frugal's Save file and also installed the AMD proprietary driver into the Frugal, as well as trying with the Full's fresh target partition in ext2 and ext3, but nothing has so far allowed a Full install. I do not have this problem with pemasu/oldyeller's Precise-based Pup. David S. [Post-script] Tried a direct Full install from a Live CD and had no problem getting a working Full Precise-5.3.93. Seems like using the Universal Installer taking the Frugal->Full path using the 'Directory' as source for install files has the problem. Universal Installer from LiveCD->Full is OK (so far). |
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Sage
Joined: 04 Oct 2005 Posts: 4848 Location: GB |
Not getting 2barks - sound is 'up'. Installed Firefox from PPM and Opera from their website. Neither appear in the menu, subsequently, even after an X-reset. Firefox doesn't run from the console, but Opera does. Unfortunately, Opera doesn't actually browse - it just sits there. SM functions but I still don't like it. Re. FULL, ds45, quite a few of us are hoping BK will run his magic wand over the PUI. |
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shinobar
 Joined: 28 May 2009 Posts: 2631 Location: Japan |
Tnx Barry for the lecture. The problem with <Font>DejaVu Sans-12</Font> is the DejaVu Sans does not have full UTF-8. It cannot display the Chinese/Japanese fonts which we add. We have solved this by using <Font>DejaVu Sans 12</Font>, but now i see the jwm does not recognize the description. Now I find <Font>Sans-12</Font>, or just <Font>-12</Font> is a better solution for the multiple fonts. _________________ Google Chrome portable Downloads for Puppy Linux http://shino.pos.to/linux/downloads.html |
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`f00
 Joined: 06 Nov 2008 Posts: 809 Location: the Western Reserve |
precise-5.3.93 initial test After kernel load.... either blackscreen or illegible 'scrunched' cl mssgs Ctrl+Alt+backspace ineffective (only hardoff works), cannot load xorgwizard, various boot codes like "puppy pfix=nox" still give blackscreen or illegible 'scrunched' cl mssgs after kernel load.... Looks like precise-5.3.93's a non-starter for me 
(probably should have started earlier with '2.69 or '2.71 rather than the latest) ____________ test on: i686 machine processor - Pentium 3 @1GHz RAM - 512M vidcard0 - RV280 (aka ATI Radeon 9200), AGP vidcard1 - not used, but also RV280 (switched off in BIOS - aka Radeon 9200SE), PCI (old-style) soundcard - emu10k1 (aka Creative Audigy 2 ZS or SB0350) boot/save method - liveCD multisession (cd-rw media) limitations - no printer, no internet connection |
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BarryK
Puppy Master Joined: 09 May 2005 Posts: 7184 Location: Perth, Western Australia |
I don't know any neat solution. Beta6 has the 'nv' Xorg driver, which should work -- run xorgwizard and explicitly choose 'nv'. _________________ http://bkhome.org/news/ |
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BarryK
Puppy Master Joined: 09 May 2005 Posts: 7184 Location: Perth, Western Australia |
Perhaps it is time for me to upgrade DejaVu fonts to the latest version. _________________ http://bkhome.org/news/ |
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BarryK
Puppy Master Joined: 09 May 2005 Posts: 7184 Location: Perth, Western Australia |
Perhaps I should do a build of Precise Puppy without the 'nouveau' Xorg driver, only 'nv' -- either nv or vesa Xorg drivers should work. _________________ http://bkhome.org/news/ |
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01micko
 Joined: 11 Oct 2008 Posts: 7841 Location: qld |
`foo has radeon hardware. Probably radeon.modeset=0 would work at pfix=ram or on the kernel line. In my opinion, leaving out nouveau would hamper the other 90% (a guess) of nvidia users that haven't reported their success with nouveau. As I said, I have 4 that all work flawlessly in precise ranging from an old Vanta to fairly new cards. That said, they would all likely boot ok with nv/vesa only, but perform poorly. Actually, on my Vanta I get "out of range" on the monitor with vesa. There have been attempts around the forum to use xvesa (yes, x is not a typo) to boot to a desktop and choose. I don't think that's the answer because once a choice is made then that may fail if the user has no knowledge. I would say documentation is the answer. Make users aware that strings like "xxxx.modeset=0" are available if graphics don't work. Be aware that radeon users are in the same boat with KMS. I had the same card `foo describes and had varying results w/wo KMS (it died recently  ).
2c _________________ Woof Mailing List | keep the faith  |  |
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Billtoo
 Joined: 07 Apr 2009 Posts: 2230 Location: Ontario Canada |
I did a manual frugal install to an 8gb flash drive. Report Video 1.3 - Fri 21 Sep 2012 on Precise Puppy 5.3.95 - Linux 3.2.29 i686 Chip description: 0.0 VGA compatible controller:NVIDIA CorporationGF108 GeForce GT 430](rev a1) oem: NVIDIA product: GF108 Board - 1071v0p1 Chip Rev X Server: Xorg Driver used: nvidia X.Org version: 1.11.3 dimensions: 1920x1080 pixels (524x292 millimeters) depth of root window: 24 planes # glxgears 62762 frames in 5.0 seconds = 12552.279 FPS 63014 frames in 5.0 seconds = 12602.629 FPS 63012 frames in 5.0 seconds = 12602.297 FPS It's working well here.
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Pelo
 Joined: 10 Sep 2011 Posts: 3669 Location: Mer méditerrannée (1 kms°) |
Precise Puppy is a very reliable distro. All is working on my Medion AKOYA. We hold now very good agrarian tractors with Slacko, Racy, Precise Puppy. but i have very old plows. Thanks to the one who has made a lifting to the old grisbi 0.5.0 available for Puppy until now. Nous avons des distros qui fonctionnent. Si vous pouviez moderniser les outils qui vont avec, ce serait parfait. Bonne journée. Have a nice day. |
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