Disaster Lab CD

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#41 Post by rob »

I dunno. The problem is that with puppy 2 on the horizon with quite a few changes, I don't know whether its worth waiting for that to be developed to a full release before developing a project like this. I have another live cd project of my own in the works, and have the same issue with that. With so many cd creation scripts available within puppy, its unclear which should be concentrated on. Ideally there would be one cd remaster script which stepped through the creation of a cd including sfs, pup001 and any other files you have used, allowed removal of personalisation for any single computer and then created an optimal iso based on what you'd selected. It would be nice if unionfs had a nice way to repack itself onto a cd. That would pretty much be the solution, cramfs for the bits you could have as read only and image.gz for the rest.

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#42 Post by Lobster »

http://applications.linux.com/applicati ... =11&tid=96

Anyone able to rescue this project? :)
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#43 Post by rob »

I've been thinking about this. Here are my thoughts:

I've had some luck with hamachi. Its a vpn solution that is really easy to use. I'd think about rolling that into the cd. In windows it creates a network card and assigns an IP address so in linux I presume it adds a network device. I cant remember because it was a while ago. From there you can see everyone in your 'network'. It connects to hamachi servers and gets an IP from there over your host connection, so whatever nating or firewalling you have is fine (maybe could do with port 80 support). Anything sent to a hamachi ip goes out over your hamachi interface encrypted automatically. Its quite cool.

I'd have a structure of machines self-replicating. What happens is a machine starts, checks for dhcp. It tries for one from my range for a few seconds. If it gets one, it connects to the server (with a fixed ip). It downloads updates including bookmarks, current disasters, a survivors list, net status, news, etc. If it cant connect it tries the next server. Servers are placed at the start of the range, so the range is scanned to find one. If a low spec pc is used, it should be connected last, thus it gets least slow-down from scans. The version running on the server is compared, if its later than the clients, its downloaded and run over the other version on boot. I'm presuming this is possible using unionfs?

There'd be an initial server from which updates were collected, and child nodes were logged. From here, updates to the entire system could be made, passed down server to server, or up. Using something like wikimaps, it would be possible to post details of where other labs were, lists of survivors and other such things.

It would also be possible to connect via voip to a PSTN line. By running asterisk on the server, calls from clients could be patched through from multiple lines to one actual voip account. An apparent call to the server would actually terminate at someones home phone. A limit on the length of each call could be set.

Obviously internet access would be available. I'd also have a logout button which just cleans out any changes made to the OS without restarting. Then just a login button. After 5 minutes of zero activity, the computer would be logged out.

The spec of the machine is sent upstream, stored in an xml file on its server. This can then be combined to give an overview and eventually be sent right back to make an automatic map. This information could also be used for technical support.

I'd make it very clear when the puppy cd could be extracted during boot up, maybe by ejecting it

I'd also have a duplicate puppy button, which would be used to create more puppy cds. With a single step it would whack all the latest updates into an iso and burn it. I'd have a record of how many cds had been burnt on the server, just as a guide. This information would be stored to allow the cd to be improved, for example, if a lot of people were using low spec machines, i'd try to lower the spec of the cd to accomodate even more users.

Bookmarks I think should be included:
gmail
google notebook
google spreadsheets
writely
google news
puppy linux
disaster wikimap
survivors wiki list

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#44 Post by ab2qv »

Dear Lobster and others interested in linux assisted disaster program.

I have started HAMRADIO APPLICATIONS discussion forum under Advanced Topics. I hope anyone can help to create a "patch" for echolink (echolinux) and eqso (eqsolinux) running on puplinux v.3. To do that you might need to download echolink and eqso software (for both user client and gateway/link) to get the picture of how these software look like and operate. ==> www.echolink.org and www.eqso.net

I am a ham operator with international and national organizations for disaster relief project using echolink and eqso for hamradio voip mode. I use puppy linux v.3 on my towers and notebook. I have been using echolink and eqso on those windows pcs. But now I want to use hamradio voip apps on puppy linux.

Any help would be appreciated it. Pls respond this via HAMRADIO APPLICATIONS forum. Thanks much!

Tks n 73 de wyn, ab2qv

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#45 Post by Aitch »

Bump

Any News/Updates?

3 yr old thread seems relevant today

How are our comms packages/servernode/satellite capabilities?

Dogbone/IPoverHamradio?

SIP/IAX/VideoConference/Presentation sharing, etc?

Is this on a webring?

http://dir.webring.com/rw

e.g. see foot of this page, for a good example of multiple webrings

http://www.sages.com.au/SageTelecoms.html



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#46 Post by Lobster »

Thanks for bumping it Aitch,
Only just seen the Ham radio comment . . .
Have joined the forum mentioned
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/puppy-linux/

Here is nic2109's announcement:
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=29430

We have had and will again have Puppy users in disaster areas :cry:
I am trying to get people used to VOIP with Puppy Skype day
Another user has just provided an Open Source VOIP and this is another potential tool as Skype is a bit of bandwidth hog

Communication options would seem to be a key requirement . . .
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#47 Post by Aitch »

Link; MU's 76db language dictionary resource

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/postin ... e&p=203483
Aitch wrote:
MU wrote:Aitch, I use it in Muppy 0083, so it should work in Puppy 3.
I did not test Puppy 4.
Thanks Mark, the reason I asked was in forward thinking for inclusion in the potential DisasterLab CD - 'StBernardPuppy?', to be used at times of natural/other disasters, to get PC/comms up & running across language/boundary barriers, in times of great human need

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=4185

Is anyone testing on Puppy 4?
Do you know what BarryK's views on international support are?

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#48 Post by quietcat »

the software that the Red Cross used to use is called DROMIS (Disaster Relief Organizational Management Information System). used this software about 10 years ago, runs on win, and its fairly bulletproof. Rather than go whole hog and re-invent the wheel, i'd ask ARC for a copy and see if it could be integrated via automatic WINE.

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#49 Post by Aitch »

Lobster, et al

This just found;

http://www.linuxjournal.com/video/linux ... oct-2-2008

just to give an idea of scale for disaster b/w


I recently met a couple at a conference who are involved in a disaster support ngo capacity

Biggest problem, they said, was responsibility: no-one in local government/police/ambulance/fire could give stats for people movement plans & they needed to be able to security prioritise comms to different groups/co-ordinators over the same network, and wanted to know about encryptioning data sends/saves, with a heirarchical admin structure giving access on a need to know basis

They are interested in St Bernard Puppy concept & also how can it supply wifi or other network links like OLPC project does?

Is there satellite/3G support?
& conferencing/whiteboarding/filesharing ability?
Can it be sent over network to run from harddrive if no CD writing capability is available [i.e. as thin client?]

Can anyone supply an overview of development &/or direction?

pm me for more details

Aitch

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