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oldyeller


Joined: 15 Nov 2011
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Location: Mishawaka IN
PostPosted: Thu 16 Aug 2012, 12:14    Post subject:  
scabz wrote:
oldyeller wrote:
My thoughts on pets is it wrong to put pets that work on precise from other distros into the one the I have done?


I was just wondering that myself.
I think pets should be compiled in puppy percise or created from ubuntu percise debs, just my opinion i dont know what is right.

but there are some apps and libs that just will not compile for me.
QT, umplayer, smplayer and smtube all compiled fine for me.
xine-lib, xine-ui, vcdimager and a few other that are needed for goggles music manager will not compile for the life of me.

stuff i compiled in lucid works in percise like googlesmm and needed dep..
so i dont know where to go from here.


I like that fact that you have done some and shared it with us. I think that I will do what playdayz does and undeb and make into pets ones that will not compile.

I really have no idea on how to compile anything myself, but is a good time to learn
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James C


Joined: 26 Mar 2009
Posts: 6023
Location: Kentucky
PostPosted: Thu 16 Aug 2012, 12:56    Post subject:  
Quick update.......

-Version-
Kernel : Linux 3.2.27_5.2.60 (i686)
Compiled : #1 SMP Thu Aug 16 11:18:05 CDT 2012
C Library : GNU C Library version 2.15 (stable)
Default C Compiler : Unknown
Distribution : Unknown distribution
-Current Session-
Computer Name : puppypc21949
User Name : root (root)
Home Directory : /root
Desktop Environment : Unknown (Window Manager: JWM)

Now for some sanity testing ......... Smile
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scabz


Joined: 30 Apr 2009
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Location: Tallahassee FL US
PostPosted: Thu 16 Aug 2012, 13:32    Post subject:  
here is SMPlayer and SMTube Compiled in Percise



Needs Qt
smplayer-0.8.0-i486.pet Download
smplayer_DOC-0.8.0-i486.pet Download

smtube-1.1-i486.pet Download
smtube_DOC-1.1-i486.pet Download

here is my Qt stripped and made as small as i can make it, do not use to compile only use to run apps. to compile use my sfs's from page 5
qt-4.8.2-i486-stripped.sfs Download
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oldyeller


Joined: 15 Nov 2011
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Location: Mishawaka IN
PostPosted: Thu 16 Aug 2012, 13:38    Post subject:  
I have just uploaded and posted about the Final build.

I will continue to update and fix things as needed like geany and help for abiword.

I have put in desksetup-7.0 and getflash-1.1

Now I am getting started to do pets so if anyone wants to help go for it and I will put them in the repo.

I would like to thank:
BarryK
pemasu
Mick
playdayz
roadkill13
James C
Lobster
Sylvander
peebee
majorfoo
Billtoo
splot
LateAdopter
scabz
Eyes-Only
gcmartin
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oldyeller


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PostPosted: Thu 16 Aug 2012, 14:00    Post subject:  
scabz wrote:
here is SMPlayer and SMTube Compiled in Percise



Needs Qt
smplayer-0.8.0-i486.pet Download
smplayer_DOC-0.8.0-i486.pet Download

smtube-1.1-i486.pet Download
smtube_DOC-1.1-i486.pet Download

here is my Qt stripped and made as small as i can make it, do not use to compile only use to run apps. to compile use my sfs's from page 5
qt-4.8.2-i486-stripped.sfs Download


I just add the pets to the repo

thanks
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Billtoo


Joined: 07 Apr 2009
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Location: Ontario Canada
PostPosted: Thu 16 Aug 2012, 14:16    Post subject:  
scabz wrote:
oldyeller wrote:
My thoughts on pets is it wrong to put pets that work on precise from other distros into the one the I have done?


I was just wondering that myself.
I think pets should be compiled in puppy percise or created from ubuntu percise debs, just my opinion i dont know what is right.

but there are some apps and libs that just will not compile for me.
QT, umplayer, smplayer and smtube all compiled fine for me.
xine-lib, xine-ui, vcdimager and a few other that are needed for goggles music manager will not compile for the life of me.

stuff i compiled in lucid works in percise like googlesmm and needed dep..
so i dont know where to go from here.


Gogglesmm is available in ppm, it's an older version but it's working okay.
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pemasu


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PostPosted: Thu 16 Aug 2012, 14:51    Post subject:  
Billtoo. Quick comment. Not much time in this evening:
Quote:
I updated my slackware 14 install this morning and it updated the
kernel to 3.2.27-smp, it downloads more than one version of the kernel
and the version used on this pc sees all of the ram.
I see no mention of PAE, it shows this in the grub4dos menu.lst file:

Only possibility as far as I know is that it is pae kernel. What I know it is the only way in kernel how you can make 32 bit kernel to see more than 4 Gb ( shows 3 Gb ) of RAM. I havent seen any other kernel configure options than pae for more than 4 Gb RAM. And surely 3.2.27 kernel does not have any new options.

You had 4 Gb of RAM. It might be that slackware shows the 4 Gb as 4 Gb, kernel has the limit for non pae as 4 Gb. So...you would need more than 4 Gb RAM to see does it see those excessive Gb`s.
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Billtoo


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Location: Ontario Canada
PostPosted: Thu 16 Aug 2012, 15:04    Post subject:  
pemasu wrote:
Billtoo. Quick comment. Not much time in this evening:
Quote:
I updated my slackware 14 install this morning and it updated the
kernel to 3.2.27-smp, it downloads more than one version of the kernel
and the version used on this pc sees all of the ram.
I see no mention of PAE, it shows this in the grub4dos menu.lst file:

Only possibility as far as I know is that it is pae kernel. What I know it is the only way in kernel how you can make 32 bit kernel to see more than 4 Gb ( shows 3 Gb ) of RAM. I havent seen any other kernel configure options than pae for more than 4 Gb RAM. And surely 3.2.27 kernel does not have any new options.

You had 4 Gb of RAM. It might be that slackware shows the 4 Gb as 4 Gb, kernel has the limit for non pae as 4 Gb. So...you would need more than 4 Gb RAM to see does it see those excessive Gb`s.


I haven't updated this install yet but hardinfo shows:

Computer
Processor 4x Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q6600 @ 2.40GHz
Memory 8188MB (423MB used)
Operating System Slackware 14.0

Operating System
Version
Kernel Linux 3.2.26-smp (i686)
Compiled #2 SMP Tue Aug 7 15:22:26 CDT 2012
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pemasu


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PostPosted: Thu 16 Aug 2012, 15:06    Post subject:  
Definitively pae kernel.
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scabz


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Location: Tallahassee FL US
PostPosted: Thu 16 Aug 2012, 15:17    Post subject:  
Billtoo how did you make gogglesmm?
Was everything compiled from source or created from precise debs?
was the libs included in the pet or are they separate pets?
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Billtoo


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PostPosted: Thu 16 Aug 2012, 15:20    Post subject:  
scabz wrote:
Billtoo how did you make gogglesmm?
Was everything compiled from source or created from precise debs?
was the libs included in the pet or are they separate pets?


I installed it in Puppy Package Manager, it supplied all the dependencies.
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gcmartin


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PostPosted: Thu 16 Aug 2012, 16:40    Post subject:  
I had the same results as BillToo. Hardinfo reports that my systems see all of the RAM as he reports.

And, Billtoo shows a GoogleMM that I would like to test. I have a large collection of songs over the years and wonder how it might handle them. Wonder if he might generate a PET or maybe its in the PPM already and I hadn't noticed.

@Oldyeller, thank you for your contribution(s). Really a GEM.
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pemasu


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PostPosted: Thu 16 Aug 2012, 16:52    Post subject:  
Yeah...Precise Puppy has pae kernel and it should show all the RAM. I suppose we are speaking of Precise Puppy kernel if it is not mentioned in the post differently.

And yes...PPM has gogglesmm in repo.
I just copied this from Packages-ubuntu-precise-universe:
gogglesmm_0.12.3-1|gogglesmm|0.12.3-1||BuildingBlock|1437K|pool/universe/g/gogglesmm|gogglesmm_0.12.3-1_i386.deb|+libc6,+libcurl3,+libdbus-1-3,+libexpat1,+libfox-1.6-0,+libgcc1,+libgcrypt11,+libgl1-mesa-glx,+libglu1-mesa,+libsqlite3-0,+libstdc++6,+libtag1c2a,+libx11-6,+libxine1|Goggles Music Manager|ubuntu|precise||

Maybe the precise-universe repo needs to be enabled to see it. Use config manager.
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don570


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Location: Ontario
PostPosted: Thu 16 Aug 2012, 20:31    Post subject:  
I've just downloaded Precise and I'll make a right click package for it
on Saturday.

By the way Slacko saves space by not including gtkhash or
ghasher. The function could be replaced with a right click package
likehttp://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=78276

or my

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=79207

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oldyeller


Joined: 15 Nov 2011
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Location: Mishawaka IN
PostPosted: Thu 16 Aug 2012, 20:35    Post subject:  
don570 wrote:
I've just downloaded Precise and I'll make a right click package for it
on Saturday.

By the way Slacko saves space by not including gtkhash or
ghasher. The function could be replaced with a right click package
likehttp://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=78276

or my

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=79207

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I would like the full range of the right click all functions if possible

Cheers
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