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nilsonmorales
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problem solved

#141 Post by nilsonmorales »

hi , why apear this backgroun and how can i show only my backgroud
this apear when boot in usb
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edit ---this was solved tnx so so much---
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#142 Post by James C »

nilsonmorales wrote:hi , why apear this backgroun and how can i show only my backgroud
this apear when boot in usb
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See here http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 987#642987

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#143 Post by Jejy69 »

Thanks James C :)
You need to take the final version (V7), I installed LxLauncher in V6, and it's not really fun ...
Or as James C has shown you, follow the manipulation in the post said.
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#144 Post by Ray MK »

Hi Jejy69

Really like the XFCE version best - extremely well done - fast and no excessive CPU activity - very nice.

All running cool too - outstanding.

Personally I like waryLXDE booting straight into vesa.
It boots and loads very fast - so as a very quick and easy to use rescue OS - or to get onto the internet really fast - nothing is better.

I rarely use save_files - mostly run live frugals from sda1 - booting with grub4dos.

So nice to have such a good selection of puppy's.

Many thanks again for all you have done.

Very best regards - Ray
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Pelo

Tu parles français, toi ?

#145 Post by Pelo »

Bonjour. Je n'ai pas essayé ta nouvelle distro, mais Frisbbe ne fonctionne qu'après qu'on ait configuré le réseau avec le network wizard habituel. Frisbee sème plus la pagaille qu'autre chose.
Je ne traduis pas en anglais. Ils ont appris le français à l'école. Nos amis anglophones vont être ravis de mettre en pratique leurs études de langue. Et à l'heure des jeux olympiques on parle français
A bientôt.

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#146 Post by Jejy69 »

Frisbee c'est de la M.....
Bonjour. Je n'ai pas essayé ta nouvelle distro, mais Frisbbe ne fonctionne qu'après qu'on ait configuré le réseau avec le network wizard habituel. Frisbee sème plus la pagaille qu'autre chose.


You did not even try, so do not say anything! How can you judge also deliberated without concrete advice. That you are not agree with what I am doing you do not like gnome or LXDE, ok, but it's not a reason to insult the work of others! Frisbee is a very good and reliable software. If you would read a minimum, which I doubt you would have seen that Frisbee is fully functional.
I think if it's down to the work of others, you can refrain yourself.

Oh, and we are on the anglophone part, not French. In case you did not know, English is the international language.
So make an effort if you do not want to sound completely stupid to see the world.
Ils ont appris le français à l'école. Nos amis anglophones vont être ravis de mettre en pratique leurs études de langue.
And you ? The community should adapt according to you? It is you who is not in your place and learn English and politeness.
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#147 Post by 2byte »

Jejy69

I will finally get to try all of your derivatives this weekend. :D

Which is the last iso at sourceforge for the CheckMate based on slacko, ChekMate-finale-v7.iso or ChekMate-finale.iso?


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Size differences in 3 different versions

#148 Post by oligin10 »

Hi Jejy69, not sure if I have missed this somewhere, but I was wondering why the differences in size between Slacko, Wary and Racy? I have only tried the Slacko version so far, and I must say, it is Fantastic! Please don't burn yourself out, we can use you here! Thanks for all your hard work, Rob

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#149 Post by Jejy69 »

Hello ! :)

2byte, it is true that I have not been very precise for that. The final-V7 is the latest version.
I made a mistake in what I thought to be the final version, I'll delete the iso.
The good iso is the "Finale-V7". :)

oligin10, for the size, Wary and racy need more dependencies, that's why they are bigger.
Otherwise, the difference lies in the fact that Wary and Racy are built for older PCs.

Thanks for the support ! :D
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#150 Post by `f00 »

@Jejy69
Probably the coolest (size-wise) way to update to latest version (for any within the same base such as slacko, racy or wary) is an xdelta. It's a judgement call, depending on how much dif there is between versions

firstlook (CheckMate-Racy)
Some likes, some not-so-much. Menu - I think I'm going to break an xml or two and generally go for a 'traditional' pupmenu with things in the usual places (and sure I can fix that jwm menu not having icons in the top level.. did it before with xfce4, but my way is a kludge that could surely be done better with a script). Absolutely going to add some things (xfe and add-ons at least, plogout and htop). Otherwise it's quite decent (and my first Racy :lol:)

on the subject of dev repo, wot no Jejy69? ;)

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#151 Post by Jejy69 »

@ `f00 :
I'll try Xdelta, I didn't know this software.
Menu - I think I'm going to break an xml or two and generally go for a 'traditional' pupmenu with things in the usual places (and sure I can fix that jwm menu not having icons in the top level.. did it before with xfce4, but my way is a kludge that could surely be done better with a script).
A traditional menu ? Like JWM ? :)
:idea: For icons, you must edit puppy-x.directories in /usr/share/desktop-directories.
I had nothing added to maintain a slight ISO. But if you agree with more software, it's Ok :)
on the subject of dev repo, wot no Jejy69?
Ho yeah ! :lol:
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#152 Post by bark_bark_bark »

@poll: MediaFire 4 the win
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#153 Post by Subito Piano »

hmm -- can't install printer, going to localhost:631 i get a 404 error. I believe this is the final version, files on the CD are dates July 25...???

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Checkmate Finale v7

#154 Post by oligin10 »

Hi, sorry but you have an older version. Go to first page, and download latest version, Checkmate Finale v7 from July 27th. Good luck! I have had the best luck with this version, Canon MP620 works great! Thanks, Rob

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#155 Post by musher0 »

vicmz wrote:I have just installed Opera and the fonts are invisible, as shown in the picture below. It was a .deb package, I'm going to try a Slackware version.
Hello, vicmz.

That will happen with GTK and ROX as well. Some opera skins "impose" their colours on the desktop environment scheme and the result is that the menu entries (anything character, really), appears invisible.

The solution is to change the opera skin. "O'Simple" and its derivatives are a good choice to start with. They're not necessarily pretty, but I found that they never obscured the fonts.

Conversely, rather than changing the opera skin, I sometimes changed the GTK theme with good result, but I don't know the Checkmate environment, so I'm at a loss to give you any advice.

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#156 Post by `f00 »

@vicmz
Gtk can be awful in some instances with various browser skins (particularly the url bar and tabs) and apps, it all depends .. qt/webkit and fltk (dillo, for instance) is usually better at keeping contrasts/values in legibility range. Sometimes it's a matter of native/system with the skins in opera - personally I don't care much for the monochrome icons that became the default style with the 9.5 series.
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Currently having some knotty issues with lxde-racy.

Early on was not so bad, taking out 'extra' icon choices for toplevel menu cats solved the jwm issue there. My custom xfe-duo went in fine and was getting a handle on how lxde changed some things.

Didn't get 1024x768 'til after some fun with xorg :roll: on the 3rd session. xfe died about that time (segmentation faults in all, maybe fltk), and drag'n'drop failed in rox as well - so was forced to use pcmanfm for cut/copy&paste (awkward and slow, but it works).

Also lost the ability to enter text in dialogues :( that really puts a damper on operating .. geany is about the only text editor that works (maybe the console editors as well), but only in the main textbody field. Any try at direct typed input in a dialogue gives a cpu spike and the parent crashes after a bit (copy/paste is the only workaround and it's seriously slow for me).

Other wms added - wmx7 ( :D hi Christian!), blackbox, fluxbox, icewm, miwm and some ultralites work - afterstep, e-16 and twm don't yet). miwm continues to impress me with its simple fast ui.

Slowly getting used to pcmanfm but it tends to go unstable and crashes after awhile - lots of mssgs in xerrs.log such as "(pcmanfm:9763): pup-volume-monitor-WARNING **: Couldn't connect to server at /tmp/pup_volume_monitor_socket: No such file or directory" is an almost constant thing. Disabled the automount stuff since I definitely prefer to do that manually.

Lots of useful apps (like mtpaint) are segfaulting on attempted load (for me anyway). Seems to be related to (stand by for long-ish mssg)..
libdbus-1.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory

Failed to load module: /usr/lib/gio/modules/libgioremote-volume-monitor.so

libdbus-1.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory

Failed to load module: /usr/lib/gio/modules/libgvfsdbus.so

libdbus-1.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
Failed to load module: /usr/lib/gio/modules/libgioremote-volume-monitor.so
libdbus-1.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
Failed to load module: /usr/lib/gio/modules/libgvfsdbus.so
libdbus-1.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
Failed to load module: /usr/lib/gio/modules/libgioremote-volume-monitor.so
libdbus-1.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
Failed to load module: /usr/lib/gio/modules/libgvfsdbus.so
..no libdbus-1 in /usr/lib or /usr/X11R7/lib so maybe if I can find that package for racy53.. I guess that volume-monitor stuff is to do with automounting (so my pref is to disable it).

Then there's another thing..
surfer: /usr/lib/libxml2.so.2: no version information available (required by /usr/lib/libgtkhtml-2.so.0)
..not only in surfer, it seems that lib package may need to be fixed perhaps (have run into the 'version information' deal before in various pups, it's a pitb).

Finally, racy53 was quite slow to re-X (about a full minute or so) but it's gotten much better after the latest few reboots. Possibly it can be made to work properly (or close enough). Ah, I can input to xclipboard without it crashing (that'll free geany up a bit :lol: ). Here's another funny (since I run a roxpin only as an on-demand item, and that rarely)..
** (ROX-Filer:2441): CRITICAL **: pinboard_pin_with_args: assertion `current_pinboard != NULL' failed
..yeah, it's "CRITICAL" alright (but I've been wrong before, so ;;.. ;.;. ;..; .;.; ..;; ;)

anyway, here's an archive for a menu 'fix' for lxpanel to get a more-or-less traditional pupmenu with a base for wm/de-specific items

No screenie since (yep) mtpaint segfaults :/
Attachments
lxpanel-menu-fix.tar.gz
menu 'fix' for lxpanel to get a more-or-less traditional pupmenu
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#157 Post by william7 »

Hi!

I install puppy with lxde but pcmanfm runs with --desktop mode.
I have my own openbox config files with menu and I need disable pcmanfm desktop mode...

I check config file but I can't find where pcmanfm starts...

.xinitrc has execute /usr/bin/startlxde but startlxde not have pcmanfm inside...

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#158 Post by `f00 »

Hi back@ya william7 :)

pcmanfm spoofs rox so it can do the desktop/pinboard like rox does (and also take on other roxly duties like loading fs in a filer window from pmount); see /usr/local/bin/rox(?) for an example of how, I think it's also nested in ~/Choices/ROX-Filer dir or that seems to be in its .config layout anyhow. You can edit some files but it's all fairly tightly integrated for an out-of-the-box experience. For instance, I found that my personal openbox rc.xml was being reverted on reboot so I did a script in /etc/init.d to rm/cp a backup (much better now, thanks) and also rm a 2nd (lx)panel which I didn't call for. Other things like the volume-monitor stuff can be unticked in bootmanager (for the startup anyway).

Personally, I change ~/.xinitrc a bit by commenting out the PuppyPin lines and moving most of the wm/de stuff to a script in ~/Startup (that works well for me since I do my roxpins on-demand and also use a variety of wms, each with their own needs). Also I use plogout rather than psd (although psd offers a more comprehensive ui!) since it's faster for me.

I'd imagine pcmanfm starts with lxde as part of the desktop experience as it were (especially true if it's handling the pinboard and so on rather than being a mere file manager, sigh...)

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#159 Post by william7 »

Well i check pcmanfm and run "pcmanfm --desktop-off" in xterm and openbox works fine.

.xinitrc is little complicated.


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#160 Post by Jejy69 »

Hi !

You can have problems with JWM, since I redirect "rox" launcher to PCmanfm.
During a LXDE session, you can disable the pcmanfm desktop in /etc/xdg/lxsession/autostart.

@ `f00, thanks for this report, Wary/Racy are not good bases for recent applications like pcmanfm 9.10 and latest LXde.
So many sensible libraries must be updated, and I somtimes break the system. :(
I'll try to resolve issues, but if I can't I'll remove the wary/racy versions to create a CheckMate Precise based version.

Cheers !
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