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Re: Welcome BACK!!!

#81 Post by tazoc »

Well, about that... I'm trying to ease back into things--some days are better than others, so don't expect me to be in top form! I have a lot of PMs and Forum posts to catch up on as well as a Pet or two to update that Barry made suggestions on a long time ago. :oops:

lhpup.org is migrated over to the new host, but still might need some attention also...

Just in case the new website should become unreliable, It would be great if someone might be able to mirror lhpup.org/download or at least the next release when the time comes. I'm working on an rsync server that should be more efficient than wget or ftp, so give me a heads up before proceeding with the mirror. ibiblio.org might be a possibility, though I think they recently had an issue with disk space.

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lhpup.org is down at the moment [Edit: back up now]

#82 Post by tazoc »

Just a heads up, lhpup.org is down, as well as the web hosting support page, so I can't file a ticket, yet. Their home page is down as well, so I would think they are aware.

Will contact support and hopefully get the server back up soon.
[Edit: lhpup.org is back up now]

Still looking for a mirror. GCMartin suggested drive.google.com, but they don't support Linux yet. :x

I have updated sys-info and report-video-glx and am in the process of testing them on Slacko 5.3.3 and Fatdog 600.

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Re: Welcome BACK!!!

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tazoc wrote:Just in case the new website should become unreliable, It would be great if someone might be able to mirror lhpup.org/download or at least the next release when the time comes. I'm working on an rsync server that should be more efficient than wget or ftp, so give me a heads up before proceeding with the mirror. ibiblio.org might be a possibility, though I think they recently had an issue with disk space.

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already got the server ready for ya. Just need to drop the files on it. :P

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#84 Post by gcmartin »

This community is GREAT!

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#85 Post by Puppyt »

Just a quick heads-up on some stability problems I encountered.
Noticed some glitches when using TextMaker2010 (for Linux) after a few days continual use - weird stalling/freezing behaviour that would permit window resizing - albeit with strange ghosting of backgrounds and other opened windows when moving between desktops, to check for freezing in other applications. Shutdown of TextMaker wasn't possible while it was locked in this state, and there were strange carry-over effects in various other applications. These included not being able to run Startmount preferences (to remove splash screen on bootup) - Startmount would instead run a 'processing drives' dialog before dropping out. Same behaviour from either the splash screen or from the Application menu.

I suspected my filesystem was unraveling somewhere, but I couldn't get "puppy pfix=fsck" to work in any location in the menu.lst (or at bootup) - and 'check partition' option from within Gparted wasn't permissable, either. I'd installed on an ext4 partition to improve filesystem stability. After a few hours of desperation I tracked down a recent mention of strange bootup behaviour while usb drives were attached. I removed 3 flashdrives I had for working data, rebooted - and all my problems disappeared! LH64 is back to working in full swing.
While it doesn't seem to be the cause of my recent problems, is there a way to ensure fsck in LH64?
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#86 Post by tazoc »

Puppyt wrote:Just a quick heads-up on some stability problems I encountered.
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I suspected my filesystem was unraveling somewhere, but I couldn't get "puppy pfix=fsck" to work in any location in the menu.lst (or at bootup) - and 'check partition' option from within Gparted wasn't permissable, either. I'd installed on an ext4 partition to improve filesystem stability. After a few hours of desperation I tracked down a recent mention of strange bootup behaviour while usb drives were attached. I removed 3 flashdrives I had for working data, rebooted - and all my problems disappeared! LH64 is back to working in full swing.
While it doesn't seem to be the cause of my recent problems, is there a way to ensure fsck in LH64?
Cheers
Were the USB drives mounted when the problems appeared? I usually unmount mine when not using them. Of course must unmount a drive before disconnecting to prevent data loss. (Right-click on drive desktop icon, or Menu -> File System -> File Managers -> Drives Manager.)

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cat /proc/cmdline
into a terminal and post the o/p. Adding pfix=fsck to kernel line should work. The 'puppy' is only needed for boot menu when booting from the CD.

Booting with puppy pfix=ram from the L64 CD is the best way to use GParted, so that all partitions can be unmounted.
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#87 Post by Q5sys »

Dont know if this is a hard coded issue or not, but Drives Manager only seems to be able to view 4 drives in each catagory. I have about 9 USB drives on my system and it can only see 4. If I disconnect one that it does see... then another one will fill that spot.
Can this be changed?

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#88 Post by Puppyt »

Cheers TaZoC for your earlier reply,
sorry I couldn't respond before now - totally borked my L64save yesterday morning, and have been trying to resurrect it (and all my desktop settings etc, etc). At least I've learned from past experience to make copies of my downloaded updates, sfs' etc outside of my pupsave so it hasn't been too painful to get the situation nearly back to normal - but if only I got into the habit of regularly backing up my savefile - especially before a run of application installs...

But back to your queries - I have had Startmount automatically mount my 4 partitions so my wife finds downloading and file manipulation a little easier with it all (Windows refugee - partitions "C"=Puppy, "D"=Data, "E"=Extras, "F"=Fotos...for sda5, sda6, sda7 and sda3 respectively. (Sda1 is an extended (logical) partition with C, D and E, while sda2=swap and sda3=F are logical's also.
The 3 USB flashdrives were present on a single hub, but I dimly recall that they were not actually mounted - perhaps 1 might have been, but it was not accessed by TextMaker when I was having the problems. I don't remember automounting the USB's with Startmount (if it is possible - haven't checked) when the issue first appeared. I certainly remember safely removing them before rebooting and finding the TextMaker unstabiltity resolved. I mention Startmount (again) as it and TextMaker were the 2 applications I found having problems - everything else I tested opened and closed well, and seemed to function fine - including other SoftMaker applications like PlanMaker and Presentations.
And thanks also for spotting my extraneous 'puppy' statement in my menu.lst alternations. I'll try again with it removed, to see if I get the filecheck verbosity on rebooting. Re cat /proc/cmdline, I get

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pmedia=atahd psubdir=L64-514
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I borked the savefile in the process of trying to rip a DVD. Handbrake kept failing mysteriously, and I had no luck with Pburn's copy/shrink function either. So I downloaded "Thoggen" from the slackware64-13.37-salix repository - and My Bad - I halted the install during an apparent stall with the dependency downloads. Nasty "Pid: 1, com: switch_root Not tainted 3.0.3 #1" error message and loads of other error codes on reboot. Actually removing the 'bad' files from the pupsave is waaaay beyond me, so I had to start again from scratch.

Could you recommend a backup regime/ automated backup scheduler? I've made straight copies of pupsaves for backup in the past - but nowhere near as often as I should. I hesitate to use the automated backup pets covered here http://puppylinux.org/wikka/PupSaveBackup and in associated threads, in the 64bit environment (but have my new savefile as 3fs instead of 4fs, just in case it would be acceptable to use).

And what I forgot to mention earlier was a big THANK YOU for the way you've engineered the Wine settings in the menu and puppy file structure - really easy to follow for us noobs (and our spouses). I look forward to working with that in future :)

Cheers!
And keep your feet up, please - no hurry with my concerns. Thanks for your earlier consideration of my "issues" ;)

P.S. Re the DVD - Even a straight copy of the file structure kept failing - the issue was a scratched DVD. Might see about installing "Unstoppable Copier" under your Wine settings - I'm not aware of Linux equivalents with similar success in disk recovery.
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#89 Post by tazoc »

Q5sys wrote:Dont know if this is a hard coded issue or not, but Drives Manager only seems to be able to view 4 drives in each catagory. I have about 9 USB drives on my system and it can only see 4. If I disconnect one that it does see... then another one will fill that spot.
Can this be changed?
Yes, Radky noted a similar bug earlier and I'm working on both.

For now, try

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pmount-puppy
in a terminal. If that is satisfactory, you can revert Drives Manager back to pmount-puppy with this:

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cp -f /usr/sbin/pmount-puppy /usr/sbin/pmount
Puppyt,
Thanks for the update. Sorry about the difficulties. Try snap2 snapshot backup in the Utilities Menu. More info at http://standish.home3.org/snap2

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#90 Post by Puppyt »

Snap2 - that's Über Kool ! Sorry I missed it, thanks TaZoC :oops:
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#91 Post by newwobiwilli »

it's really great! many thanks for this fantastic system. But now I must buy a new laptop with many, many RAM... so I can put my old Windows in a stable system completly in RAM.

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Love the pup, happy U R ok, got 3 X screens working finaly

#92 Post by meeki »

played around with many distros for years Ive settled down with yours for a year now as my main OS for my current DT and my SERVER in the garage for running Virtualbox's

Its just so stinking fast! I love runing Virtualbox on it for any thing else i need.

I got a Torrent server running on the ServerBox I have for all open source files I Like or use. If you wanted Id be happy to host any files you like. people will only get 2Mbps DL from me but files will always have a seeder. I think most people that use Open source stuff seed torrents.

Took me a few hrs to sort out 3 Xscreens running with different backgrounds.

If any one else is having an issue with this its rather EZ to fix
Get your Xorg.conf running so you get a Big white X on the other screen(s)

Goto ./.config/rox.sourceforge.net/ROX-Filer/ folder and open up pb_Nolcons xml file
File save as pb_Left or right or center. dont care what you name it as long as its pb_somthinghere that you will remember if you more monitors make a pb file for them too.

Create a bash and save it as a *.sh and put in the startup dir
Here is what I have inside my sh in the startup dir

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#!/bin/sh
DISPLAY=:0.1 openbox &
DISPLAY=:0.1 rox -p=Right
DISPLAY=:0.2 openbox &
DISPLAY=:0.2 rox -p=Left
As you can tell DISPLAY=:0.2 is my Left Monitor as im pointing to the file pb_Left with rox -p=Left

Right is my Right monitor.
The center monitor is not needed. You dont have to declare it.

now restartX

Now you should have backgrounds on the new monitor(s) and be able to L-Click on them and get the openbox menu :) from here you can change the background to what ever you want.

Also if you want any icons you can drag them over from the other monitor and they will work in most cases. If not find the .desktop file and mod it or make one ETC.

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#93 Post by Puppyt »

Thanks meeki - that's a great 'how-to' on setting up multiple monitors. Thanks also for your generosity in file hosting - I hope someone takes you up on your offer!
If you wouldn't mind, I'd be very interested in hearing your "nuts'n'bolts" in setting LightHouse64 up as a server - as it has *slowly* dawned on me how feature-packed for server roles TaZoC has made this. I gather you use it for both local- and web-serving? No rush in reply, or going to the hassle of another how-to - just some quick pointers would be fine, whenever suits.
Cheers!

P.S. And I might have opened with "Welcome to the kennels", but I see you have really been well buried in the forums for ages -so "Thanks for your first post" :)
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#94 Post by Puppyt »

TaZoC, I have just two requests for you or anyone else who can help out.
I'm trying to track down a timer I can use for keeping track of my consultancy hours - had a quick launch of "pTiming" I found elsewhere on the forums, but it's 32bit and I can't get it to work. Any alternative suggestions would also be appreciated.
Also, I notice in Desktop>Desktop Settings>Removable Drives and Media; that there's a tab for PDA's and some greyed-out functions for using Sync (?) to connect Palm and PocketPC devices. Wonder if you could provide some more info on activating these functions - perhaps I should just do that sort of connectivity using the usual firmware from within Wine?
Thanks

EDIT: Hmm strange my edit yesterday disappeared from here - again, Iguleder has posted an interesting tip getting 32bit packages to work in the 64bit environment http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 881#641881
Iguleder wrote:For those of you who have trouble running some 32-bit stuff (especially Skype), here's a neat trick I discovered today.

I wanted to run Skype on my distro and it's 64-bit only, with 32-bit compatibility only in the kernel (e.g no 32-bit libraries) - this is a great solution. I had a weird issue - I couldn't run any graphical application and I solved it too.

In my testing I ran a Slackware 13.37-based, x86_64 distro against Slacko 5.3.4's beta.

Step 1: extract a main SFS of a 32-bit Puppy. Copy your .Xauthority file inside, so graphical applications can connect to your X server.

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unsquashfs /path/to/puppy-4.3.1.sfs
cp ~/.Xauthority squashfs-root/root
Step 2: install your stuff, in my case it's just Skype.

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cd squashfs-root
tar xvf ~/Downloads/skype_staticQT-4.0.8.tar.bz2
cd ..
Step 2: bind its virtual file systems and /dev to your running distro's ones, so it can access your hardware and kernel information.

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mount --bind /dev squashfs-root/dev
mount --bind /proc squashfs-root/proc
mount --bind /sys squashfs-root/sys
Step 3: chroot! pwd is used to make sure chroot worked (the output will be"/")

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chroot squashfs-root
pwd
Now you can do whatever you want inside that 32-bit Puppy, as if you were running it! The fun part is that all 32-bit stuff run in a sandbox so they cannot pollute your system (e.g /lib and /usr/lib) - you don't have to install anything.

The whole thing can be wrapped in a script, by the way, so executing Skype is transparent. :wink:

EDIT: amazing. Wrote a script which automates this and now I can issue "skype" as if Skype was natively installed.
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#95 Post by meeki »

Warning - Broke Virtualbox install pet removed for sorting issue


Well Id be happy to share some stuff and howto's on it.

Yes I have been lurking on Linux forums for about 4 years. 3 of them on puppy forums. Mostly here at Murga

I enjoy the process of using a search feature and figN out the problem myself.

I will post when I see no answers to a prob I solve and think others might want to know. Save them the trouble.

Hence making puppy tune
http://forums.turbobricks.com/showthread.php?t=259983

AND making .deb's for my car tuning software.
http://www.msextra.com/forums/viewtopic ... e7d344c207

EZ to explain how I ended up Puppy. Car + low budget + Linux + HP = Puppy linux

Onto the Light house specific stuff.
I wanted to used Dropbox cloud storage on my Lighthouse Server in the garage. Then Samba a folder to share it on the network. This way every time a take a picture/video on my android phone it can go to the Server. Also I use dropbox to host files/pictures/html/etc so It allows me to do transfers on my network.

Problim: There is no Dropbox pet for Lighthouse64
Solution: Make a PET :P

dropbox-LH64-1.pet

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/12968946/lighth ... 1.4.11.pet

When it installs it puts dropbox.sh in the Startup folder so it will auto rune every time.
If you dont want it to auto start just delete dropbox.sh

It will put a nick icon in the right hand side of the tray when its running.
It will put a menu Icon in the Menu Network Tab

Installing Notes:
The standard Dropbox folder is 2gigs So you may not want this installing under your pup save file. So I suggest you put it in MNT/HOME

When you get to "Chose Setup Type" on the installer Select "Advanced"
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On the next screen Select "I want to choose where to put my Dropbox"
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Lastly goto mnt/home and then hit open it will make a Dropbox folder for you now outside your save file.
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Enjoy.

Next helpful thing I will cover next is seting up your samba.config to share your Dropbox folder.

Ill try to get other howto's up with pets ive made for my Server once or twice a week.

Meeki
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pTiming for LH64

#96 Post by meeki »

Yep was not too hard to fix from puppy 32bit to LH64bit

IT now works in Lighthouse64
ptiming-LH64-0
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/12968946/lighth ... -0.8.1.pet

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#97 Post by meeki »

So any one else looking for a pet for Lighthouse that jsut need to be ./configured , or script tweeked like the pTiming PET?

Let me know. Worse case Is i say I cant do it.

Sometimes it cant be done because of libs i cant sort out or find for what package they come from or need etc. I'm sure more skilled guys could fig it out.

I'm working through this issue ATM with a new version of Skype im trying to compile for Light house. I'm sure if I keep peckin at it ill fig it out. I'm tired of using version 2 from the pets

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#98 Post by Puppyt »

That's all brilliant, meeki - thanks very much for the trouble you've taken explaining how to, and compiling, the pet for pTiming - I'll test it out very soon (EDIT: whoo hoo it works great!) And, you read my mind regarding the Dropbox pet!
Most of all, thanks very much for offering to post occasional 'how -to' solutions that newbies (especially - like me) might otherwise dream about but not have the time to run through all the dead-ends/mistakes made to really accomplish something with their recycled hardware projects etc... The car-tuning project of yours is bound to prick up a few ears - I don't recall Puppy reported here on the forums before for such a role, so kudos to you. Good Luck with your Skype project.
Big Cheers :)
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#99 Post by meeki »

Skype 4.0.07

Slackware package for slackware64-13.37

Its 2 versions newer than the current one

skype_static-4.0.0.7-x86_64-1sl.txz

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/12968946/lighth ... 64-1sl.txz

Wroks fine for me on LH64

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#100 Post by meeki »

interesting issue

So I kept having my CPU's max out on me every so offen. my mouse still moved around the screen but no keyboard or mouse clicks worked.

This all started after I enabled mo other 2 monitors.

If i restarted It would load the Desktop just fine right until gkrellm tried to start.

Reinstalled a fresh copy of lighthouse and it still does it.

Solution for now was to set /usr/bin/gkrellm to a -x (non executable)

I miss the little guy ill hut down the issue later.

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