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Cross-platform Trojan Attacks Windows, Mac, Linux
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PostPosted: Wed 11 Jul 2012, 19:40    Post subject:  Cross-platform Trojan Attacks Windows, Mac, Linux  
Cross-platform Trojan checks your OS: Attacks Windows, Mac, Linux
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...The new Web-based social engineering attack, first detected on a compromised website in Colombia, relies on a malicious Java applet to install backdoors on Windows, Mac, and Linux computers. When you first visit such a compromised site, you are prompted to install the Java applet, which unsurprisingly hasn't been signed with a certificate. If you do so, the applet checks which operating system you have (Windows, Mac OS X, or Linux) and then drops a corresponding Trojan for your platform...

...[Which has] one purpose: to connect to a Command and Control (C&C) server and await further instructions. These typically include downloading additional malware and executing it. The security company did note, however, that ever since it began monitoring this particular attack, the C&C server hasn't pushed any additional code. That being said, it could technically do so at any time.

It appears that the Trojan downloader was written using the Social-Engineer Toolkit (SET), an open-source and publicly-available Python tool designed for penetration testing. It is very unlikely that this is a penetration test.

Malware writers love using a cross-platform plugin as an attack vector because it allows them to target more than one operating system, and thus more potential users. It shouldn't surprise you that Java is being used: the platform has loads of security holes, and it runs on all the major operating systems.
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PostPosted: Thu 12 Jul 2012, 04:00    Post subject:  
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F-Secure, which first found the Web exploit, detects the
initial malware as Trojan-Downloader:Java/GetShell.A.
The respective payloads for Windows, Mac, and Linux
are detected as follows:
Backdoor:W32/GetShell.A,
Backdoor:OSX/GetShell.A (PowerPC binary,
requires Rosetta on an Intel-based platform), and
Backdoor:Linux/GetShell.A.


My naive question. How do I know if I have java or not?
What are they talking about in the quote I make here above?
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PostPosted: Thu 12 Jul 2012, 04:14    Post subject:  
nooby wrote:
My naive question. How do I know if I have java or not?


http://javatester.org/enabled.html

In Puppy you have to install Java JRE
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PostPosted: Thu 12 Jul 2012, 06:45    Post subject:  
Thanks I did a bookmark to that test and I seems to not have the java.
I most likely confuse it with Python language. Maybe python require java?
Hope I am not derailing. So how does one protect onself from this
cross platform threat then?

Thanks to Flash for the link.
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PostPosted: Thu 12 Jul 2012, 07:16    Post subject:  
No, Python does not require Java.
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PostPosted: Thu 12 Jul 2012, 07:50    Post subject:  
this can't be good.
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PostPosted: Thu 12 Jul 2012, 17:26    Post subject:  
nooby wrote:
So how does one protect onself from this
cross platform threat then?

If you haven't installed Java JRE you are not vulnerable to this exploit, Java JRE is the cross-platform environment it uses.

If you have installed Java JRE you can drastically lower the odds of such exploits by using NoScript where you have to give permission for a webpage to run Java applets.

Another solution would be to browse the internet with a version of puppy which is not saved after use, (e.g. from DVD-R disc) : a pristine version is loaded every time you boot it up.
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PostPosted: Fri 13 Jul 2012, 02:18    Post subject:  
Java Run Env (JRE) seems to be needed by LibreOffice
Which other programs need it?

http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=77821
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JRE or JAVA PETs issues in Puppy LInux distros


So if a Puppy has LibreOffice from scratch then most likely
it also has JRE/Java? On all the others one need to install
it first. Ooops just my wild guess though
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PostPosted: Fri 13 Jul 2012, 03:01    Post subject:  
Last I checked, OpenOffice/LibreOffice didn't absolutely require Java - it's needed to run Calc and some other functions, but not everything. The maintainers do their level best to recommend Java be installed, though, of course.

I know Java has a Control Panel applet on Windows that allows you to change the settings, including the security settings. Can we do that on Linux? I think I saw a setting to disallow unsigned (no certificate) Java apps... of course, I'm probably wrong. Neutral
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PostPosted: Fri 13 Jul 2012, 03:30    Post subject:  
Makoto wrote:
Last I checked, OpenOffice/LibreOffice didn't absolutely require Java - it's needed to run Calc and some other functions

Not Calc - Base, which is the openoffice alternative to MS Access. So most people would never use it.
But I thought Libreoffice was getting rid of that dependence on Java?
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PostPosted: Fri 13 Jul 2012, 03:58    Post subject:  
I don't use it enough to remember the name at all times. Smile

As for trying to remove or lessen its dependence upon Java, I don't know... I haven't heard anything about it. Embarassed I've always thought Base was heavily dependent upon Java, so it'd be rather difficult to separate it. Neutral
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PostPosted: Fri 13 Jul 2012, 07:18    Post subject:  
Ah:
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LibreOffice contains various pieces of code written in Java. Some of these pieces are currently being replaced/rewritten, but it is likely that LibreOffice will contain Java code for quite some time.
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Some think java is a slow memory hog, others think it is a legal swamp that invites lawsuits. Neither might be true, but some developers have nevertheless expressed their desire to remove Java usage in LO over time.

http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/Java
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PostPosted: Fri 13 Jul 2012, 08:19    Post subject:  
disciple wrote:
Makoto wrote:
Last I checked, OpenOffice/LibreOffice didn't absolutely require Java - it's needed to run Calc and some other functions

Not Calc - Base, which is the openoffice alternative to MS Exchange. So most people would never use it.
But I thought Libreoffice was getting rid of that dependence on Java?


The level of incorrrect statements put forward as facts is bewildering.

Base is the OpenOffice/LibreOffice alternative to Microsoft's dataBASE Access. (The clue is in the name). MS Exchange is a server for e-mail, calenders, to-do lists etc.

As such Base might be used by quite a few people, certainly people here in the past have asked for a Database.

I think, on Windows at least, that Java may be needed to display LibreOffice help without being connected to the internet. Not sure if this is the same for Linux.

The op mentions that the user is prompted to install the malicious Java applet. The solution then is to 'just say no'. No problem for Puppy users then, who usually have more than half a brain.
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PostPosted: Fri 13 Jul 2012, 11:47    Post subject:  
Oh dear, I can't believe I wrote that Embarassed
I know I've done too many 18 hour days lately, but that's shocking...
Yes, Access.
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PostPosted: Fri 13 Jul 2012, 12:40    Post subject:  
Yeah, I should have been paying attention, too... in my defense, though, I came home at about 11, last night, and was probably running on autopilot for a few hours. Embarassed
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