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Lobster
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PostPosted: Mon 09 Jul 2012, 09:47    Post subject:  Server Space for BarryK  

Barry is asking about server space
http://bkhome.org/blog/?viewDetailed=02895

Anyone got any any or can recommend a host.

Occasionally people say they would like to host Puppy files.
What they usually mean is they need someone
to hand hold their own experimentation. Razz
Sometimes this works out.

The tmxxine server which hosted many Puppy files has lapsed
as the host is - how can I put this politely - criminally useless.

Ideally something similar to iblio, which has proved long term and reliable, with many mirrors.

Any ideas? Very Happy

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PostPosted: Mon 09 Jul 2012, 10:54    Post subject:  

perhaps puppyite has some spare resources : Laughing
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PostPosted: Mon 09 Jul 2012, 17:24    Post subject:  

Dropbox can be used for public storage -
20gb a day bandwidth limit for free accounts
200gb a day for pro accounts (starting at £99 a year)

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Additionally, do note the following:
- There is no bandwidth usage meter or alert for when you may exceed the limit.
- Your links will be automatically suspended (and return a 503 Bandwidth Exceeded page), and you will receive an email only AFTER your links are suspended.
- The first suspension is 72 hours, the suspension duration is INCREASED after every suspension; eg.
First suspension - 72 hours
Second suspension - 144 hours
Third suspension - 288 hours...and so on.


f you have a couple of email addresses you could sign up for multiple dropbox accounts. You can also host pictures (even a website) to supplement website bandwidth.

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PostPosted: Mon 09 Jul 2012, 19:12    Post subject: Re: Server Space for BarryK  

Lobster wrote:
Barry is asking about server space
http://bkhome.org/blog/?viewDetailed=02895

Anyone got any any or can recommend a host.


One needs to ascertain how much "space" he needs and how much "bandwidth".

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PostPosted: Mon 09 Jul 2012, 20:23    Post subject:  

Hi Thom,

I see no reason why we can't pool resources with co-locates and find a dedicated box for a long term setup.

Then we can buy a "block" of bandwidth within a data center and use a big server.

Buying a block is cheaper than renting a vm machine from a company that rents vm machines.

Just a thought,
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PostPosted: Mon 09 Jul 2012, 20:50    Post subject:  

Caneri wrote:
Hi Thom,

I see no reason why we can't pool resources with co-locates and find a dedicated box for a long term setup.

I used to prefer that method....but now, I get the colo-center to supply the box, the band-width, and updating the server....if it dies, they replace it. I went that route after I had a failure 2000 miles away from home base...it was not pretty.

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Then we can buy a "block" of bandwidth within a data center and use a big server.
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Yep...makes sense.

If someone can get me some credible numbers, I can see what my colo can do.

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Just a thought


And a good one.

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PostPosted: Mon 09 Jul 2012, 20:53    Post subject:  

Hiya Thom,

Off the thread...good to hear from you, y'ole fart.

Eric

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but now, I get the colo-center to supply the box, the band-width, and updating the server....if it dies, they replace it

Good idea Thom

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PostPosted: Mon 09 Jul 2012, 21:33    Post subject:  

still havent got any ball park figures for anything.

russoodle and smokey are still out there too.
perhap if we knew how much bandwidth ibiblio/puppy chewed it would be a starting reference point.
and ditto for other puppy sites would be advantageous too.

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PostPosted: Mon 09 Jul 2012, 21:37    Post subject:  

Hey aarf,

Nothing is written.

I think Barry is looking for another Ibiblio...but that won't happen.

Eric

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PostPosted: Mon 09 Jul 2012, 21:49    Post subject:  

with some sort of cloud splitting incoming requests to the various puppy resources already available we may already have enough. just a matter of more efficent utilisation
other non puppy sites could be also used as part of the duplicate cloud split. retaining control of the incoming request is the most critical point not the actual end user download host.

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PostPosted: Mon 09 Jul 2012, 21:57    Post subject:  

you still need hdd space and band width in one(or more)servers to make it work aarf
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PostPosted: Mon 09 Jul 2012, 22:49    Post subject:  

I know little about hosting space, but, when I used to follow the Ultimate Edition Linux page, theemahn, who makes it always had hosting issues, until he went with sourceforge. I don't know if this is an option for Puppy, but it might help...

http://ultimateedition.info/ultimate_edition/sourceforge-rocks/
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PostPosted: Tue 10 Jul 2012, 02:52    Post subject:  

Thanks Guys Smile

I will try and explain what developers need. They need a site which they can FTP pets, ISO and SFS to.

Developers also need to be able to download from FTP or http (a URL)

Users need to be able to download ISO and pets (some of the pets will be available in the final release) so some sort of bandwdth/server sharing is ideal.

[Typing is hard (in Puppi SAP alpha2) . . . Confused ]

Slacko is hosted by Smokey and Eric hosted many of our files for a few years.
This may be temporary but is much appreciated. When ISO download occurs, server meltdown is not appreciated by hosting services . . .

Puppy is mainstream enough to need the reliability of institutional support but we are also fiercely independent. Iblio was/is ideal. Sourceforge always strikes me as too complex (but is a good suggestion)

Dropbox, googledrive, sugarsynch are designed for commercial fleecing of the ignorant. We should know better. Do we?

Thanks again for suggestions, we need more. Hope that clarifies a little . . . Smile

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PostPosted: Wed 11 Jul 2012, 06:19    Post subject:  

The problem has gone away, for awhile anyway, as ibiblio.org has added more space.

I was able to upload the latest Squeezed Arm Puppy alpha3 (for the Raspberry Pi).

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PostPosted: Wed 11 Jul 2012, 06:30    Post subject:  

Barry that is a temporal relief but sadly Ibibilio
are very slow. A file 200 MB big can take some 30 to 60Minutes
despite if one have fast Broadband and those with Dial Up
have to wait for some 5 hours or so?

So would be good to know what would be needed for to pay for
a more reliable solution.

What would we have to pay per year to secure solution
that is fast and have the needed bandwidth for download?

Knowing the figures of cost per year would make us more aware of
what is needed to contribute.

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