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Lobster
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PostPosted: Sun 24 Jun 2012, 03:00    Post subject:  

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What advantages to Fatdog?
It's slower to boot. Sad
User doesn't work as root. Sad
Different to other Puppies.
No PPM.
But Firefox looks good!


Ah new cheap hardware. What fun!
Good that Slacko is working.

Fatdog is 64bit and optimised for more memory
and 64 bit advantages that will be more apparent in the future.
You can look them up, better security, use of memory etc.

Fatdog was started pre-woof so is a little non-standard.

Slower to boot after the first shutdown?
It may because it is larger or fatter - more to load into memory.
As far as I remember it does have a PPM.
I believe it is hidden away in the control panel . . .
Firefox works well Smile

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PostPosted: Sun 24 Jun 2012, 04:04    Post subject:  

I'm really enjoying using Slacko-5.3.3. Very Happy
Seems like...everything I try in Slacko "just works". Cool
And IT LOOKS REALLY GOOD too!
I even have it set up "to save or not to save" the sessions...
Both during the session, and at shut-down/reboot.
[This makes it my new number-1 Puppy]

I'm enjoying the improved speed of this new PC.
[See the screenshot below showing near zero use of 4GB->(3GB in use) RAM and 2.2GHz processor speed (64-bit hardware, 32-bit OS)]
Oops, meant to select a region, but got the whole screen.

Looking forward to being able to do the extra stuff the old PC couldn't do.
e.g.
Multi-session live Puppy DVD-RW. [Now have enough RAM?]
Trying out Boxee. [CPU speed now fast enough?]
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PostPosted: Sun 24 Jun 2012, 04:31    Post subject:  

Sylvander wrote:
Looking forward to being able to do the extra stuff the old PC couldn't do.
e.g.
Multi-session live Puppy DVD-RW. [Now have enough RAM?]
Trying out Boxee. [CPU speed now fast enough?]


And Psip should work better too.

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PostPosted: Sun 24 Jun 2012, 05:43    Post subject:  

smokey01 wrote:
And Psip should work better too.

Got a link to the latest Psip PET file?
I have Psip32-1.2RC2-Slacko.pet
Is that the latest?

Found this Psip webpage/repo.
Will install Psip32-1.2-Slacko.pet
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PostPosted: Sun 24 Jun 2012, 06:09    Post subject:  

CatDude may have compiled a later one but it won't be significantly different.
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PostPosted: Sun 24 Jun 2012, 06:48    Post subject:  

I am unsure of if I have tested this final release of Slacko.
I have the tested many of the older ones. 5.3.3 14??? X ?
Thin Slacko and Fat Slacko too.

Could it be me being a typical habitual person. Lupu arrived first and
I am more used to Lupu. Lupu Firefox has all the bookmarks and such.
All the installed programs so to me Slacko is more like a test OS that
one test and then go back to one's main OS.

Maybe Slacko is better? I have no idea I use Lupu so how can I know?

Why do you guys chose Slacko over Lupu? What where disappointing
about Lupu that made you abandon ship? Smile
and now that I have found FatDog why should I care about Lupu
or even care about Slacko? Damn I am a confused Linux user indeed.

Both FatSlacko and ThinSlacko do work on my gear too so most likely
it is just old habit that I have used Lupu for so long that I am used to it. Smile

Thanks Mick!

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PostPosted: Sun 24 Jun 2012, 17:19    Post subject:  

Nooby

You have tested THINSlacko 5.3.3, the one with the older Firefox Smile .

The underlying structure of that puplet is Slacko-5.3.3, so if that works there is no need to test, however you can do what you want Wink

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PostPosted: Mon 25 Jun 2012, 00:44    Post subject:  

Quote:
Maybe Slacko is better?


Linux = kernel
. . . but for most people a working Linux
may run on server or in our case on a desktop
and include a range of programs
So Linux = kernel + working interface

The kernel is regularly updated with options
hardware support, better, newer more optimised drivers etc

Slacko uses a newer kernel.

In my experience Lucid for most people worked better
on the visual side and Slacko has improved the sound options.

Slacko uses the later kernel

Fatdog uses a later Intel CPU - requiring a different configuration options when compiling the kernel
Puppi uses a completely different CPU - support for chips and hardware is a collaborative, open endeavour as ever

Hope that is helpful. Smile

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PostPosted: Mon 25 Jun 2012, 03:39    Post subject:  

Lobster wrote:
hardware support, better, newer more optimised drivers etc

As illustrated by the fact that Slacko-5.3.3-4g-scsi was the only one of the 7 Puppies that worked on my OLD PC, that would completely work on my new up-to-the-minute PC.
Wary-5.3 booted, but didn't have the necessary module to get me on the internet.
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PostPosted: Mon 25 Jun 2012, 04:11    Post subject:  

Jasper, I maybe misunderstood. Edited it out as you recommended.
I will try to download the new alpha. That is confusing to me.
I mean this is the final so why a new alpha Smile
Oh he explain it like this

"This is alpha from the latest woof. I completely rebuilt my woof tree so it's possible I missed something.

It has k3.2.21. It is from the LTS kernel branch which I intend to follow until it reaches EOL.

There are bugfixes and enhancements applied since 5.3.3 but that doesn't mean new bugs haven't been introduced, especially since it's the latest woof."

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PostPosted: Mon 25 Jun 2012, 04:26    Post subject:  


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PostPosted: Mon 25 Jun 2012, 05:00    Post subject:  

New alpha release

Testers wanted.

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PostPosted: Mon 25 Jun 2012, 23:28    Post subject:  

Glad to see I can use the latest langpack_es with Slacko. Very Happy
I'll see if I can optimize the package to include things that aren't in Wary/Racy.

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PostPosted: Wed 27 Jun 2012, 14:17    Post subject:  

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Testers wanted.


Don't see any issues on bog std kit - solid as always. One of my most reliable tools.
Do you anticipate any problem upgrading a FULL from 5.3.3 ?
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PostPosted: Tue 03 Jul 2012, 03:51    Post subject:  

I'm now happy to say that it is stable again. The defrag seems to have fixed matters. Now all that remains is to re-do the installs of the few things I like using.

I wrote earlier today: -

I'm sad to say that Slacko 5.3.3 has cacked itself on my old Toshiba A200 laptop after months of reliable service, and I can't revive it. I run it from a CD and save on the HDD. I've even tried starting from scratch - copied off the save file and deleted the slacko sfs, and it runs ok first time but fails to save the initial setting (eg hostname etc,) properly at shutdown. It saves something but on restart I have a screen full of caution triangles, the default background is missing and it wants to do the initial setup stuff again. Back to Lupo for the time being. I'll defrag the HDD on XP and try again later.

Also posted in the Puppy on laptops thread.
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