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Re: Fatdog64-600b1

#141 Post by CatDude »

Hi
ETP wrote:....
Possibly missing a colon after sda3 :)
I reckon so too :wink: :wink:

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#142 Post by smokey01 »

That was it, thanks ETP.

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Re: Kernel source

#143 Post by 01micko »

shinobar wrote:BTW, where is the 3.4.2 kernel source?
The fd64-devx_600.sfs has linux-3.3.4.
Funny, I didn't check but the one I downloaded compiled nvidia just fine. All mirrors should have caught it well and truly by now.

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Re: Kernel source

#144 Post by shinobar »

01micko wrote:
shinobar wrote:BTW, where is the 3.4.2 kernel source?
The fd64-devx_600.sfs has linux-3.3.4.
Funny, I didn't check but the one I downloaded compiled nvidia just fine. All mirrors should have caught it well and truly by now.

Wait, I'll check, see screen cap
Thanks mike. maybe same filename but different ones. My fat64-devx_600.sfs has timpstamp 2012-06-11.
I am downloading the new, timestamp 2012-06-13.
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Re: Kernel source

#145 Post by 01micko »

shinobar wrote:
01micko wrote:
shinobar wrote:BTW, where is the 3.4.2 kernel source?
The fd64-devx_600.sfs has linux-3.3.4.
Funny, I didn't check but the one I downloaded compiled nvidia just fine. All mirrors should have caught it well and truly by now.

Wait, I'll check, see screen cap
Thanks mike. maybe same filename but different ones. My fat64-devx_600.sfs has timpstamp 2012-06-11.
I am downloading the new, timestamp 2012-06-13.
Which mirror do you try? If it's aarnet I'll let them know there is an issue, I used nluug only hours after release.
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#146 Post by nooby »

I am interested in a 32-bit version of FatDog because it is a multi-user Puppy
so a lot of people would be able to use Puppy on 32 bit machines.

So if one had two versions of a multi-user Puppy because now they
refuse to use a single user Puppy. Yes I know that very few developers
do care about that criticism. But now when we do have a modern Puppy
that are multi-user then it is unfortunate that it is 64-bit.

Many many users of Linux still have older 32-bit computers.
So it would be great to have a modern 32-bit multi-user Puppy to recommend

Now I am a noob so I know too little. I have a lot of time but lack knowledge
So if the Devs have no time to make the compilation needed for 32-bit
would it be easy enough for a noob to do. I mean if the scripts as such
do it automatically and the only trouble is that it takes many ours a day
and many many days to accomplish but need no special knowledge to do?

As is obvious I know nothing so maybe I am way into fantasy land. :)

Could one expect a kind of woof script in future that allow us noobs
to accomplish the 32-bit if the developers have no time to let it have
its automatic course or is it a hard and tough job to make it 32-bit from
64-bit?

I apology if all this sounds very ridiculous. All of it is from my heart
caring about all these Linux users keen on the notion of single user root.

I am all for single user root but I do care about all these others
and want them to be able to have a good multi user Puppy Linux.
I use Google Search on Puppy Forum
not an ideal solution though

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Re: format floppy, probepart

#147 Post by jamesbond »

shinobar wrote:But the probepart shows /dev/fd0 twice:

Code: Select all

# probepart | grep fd
/dev/fd0|none|2880
/dev/fd0|none|2880
EDIT: The probepart in the most recent woof is fixed.

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#120602 kernel 3.2.18 major deviance from earlier kernels, /proc/partitions (and /sys/block) now shows /dev/sr0 when no disk.
#       new situation, getting duplicate /dev/sr0 so need 'sort -u'.
Got it, added this code to line 50 in /sbin/probepart:

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ALLDEVS=$(echo $ALLDEVS | tr ' ' '\n' | sort -u | tr '\n' ' ')
I don't use probepart myself; but other scripts may still depend on it.
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#148 Post by jamesbond »

nooby wrote:Pardon my naive remark.
A noob would not know about this way to do a direct link to the savefile
in the menu.lst Even I who have read here each day since 2008
did not know about it. And I have at least tested frugal install of Puppy
almost daily following the developers suggestions on many different puppies.
In Fatdog, open the web browser. Click Homepage. Click the FAQ links. Click the "boot options" link. The answer is there. The same information is also available here - http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/dis ... tions.html. This link, together with my begging to please read the FAQ, was posted in the first post of Alpha2 announcement.
savefile=direct:device:sda1:/fd64b2/fd64save.ext4

I changed it to savefile=direct:device:sda1:/fd64b2/fd64save.ext3
that worked too but needed some consistence at shut down that
maybe a noob will not be aware of.
The extension be anything. It could be savefile.nooby if you wish :D Fatdog does not use the extension to determine what's inside like puppy does.
have a noob notion that ext3 is safer to use than ext4 due to ext4 less known? First time I used it in all those years of saving a save file :)
This was true in 2008 when ext4 was first released; but ext4 has been production-quality for at least two years now.
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#149 Post by jamesbond »

Gobbi wrote:Using Skype with both Fatdog 521 and Lighthouse 5.14 was always possible only with Analogue Audio because the system recognized only the external analogue microphone and not ( no matter what I tried ) the digital microphone which is inside the usb webcam .

Is there any tweak :idea: that could arrange that by the time the Skype pet arrives :?:
I cannot promise anything. Skype is closed source software - you've got what they give out. All I did was to package skype with essential 32-bit libs so that it will work on Fatdog. How about using PuppyPhone instead :twisted:
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#150 Post by jamesbond »

Jim1911 wrote:I removed those parameters from my code and found that you are correct and all that's needed are the "savefile" parameters to find the save file although they do no harm.

However, when I just used the legacy parameters the save file could not be found. Grub can only find a save file located in /mnt/home.
The legacy parameters are ignored by Fatdog.
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#151 Post by smokey01 »

Just tried to stream .mp4 from my website via seamonkey. VLC fires up but no video.

If you open VLC then use the URL it will work. Seems to be something wrong with Seamonkey's integration with VLC.

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#152 Post by jamesbond »

smokey01 wrote:Just tried to stream .mp4 from my website via seamonkey. VLC fires up but no video.

If you open VLC then use the URL it will work. Seems to be something wrong with Seamonkey's integration with VLC.
Do you have a sample link for us to try?
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#153 Post by jamesbond »

nooby wrote:I am interested in a 32-bit version of FatDog because it is a multi-user Puppy
so a lot of people would be able to use Puppy on 32 bit machines.

So if one had two versions of a multi-user Puppy because now they
refuse to use a single user Puppy. Yes I know that very few developers
do care about that criticism. But now when we do have a modern Puppy
that are multi-user then it is unfortunate that it is 64-bit.

Many many users of Linux still have older 32-bit computers.
So it would be great to have a modern 32-bit multi-user Puppy to recommend

Now I am a noob so I know too little. I have a lot of time but lack knowledge
So if the Devs have no time to make the compilation needed for 32-bit
would it be easy enough for a noob to do. I mean if the scripts as such
do it automatically and the only trouble is that it takes many ours a day
and many many days to accomplish but need no special knowledge to do?

As is obvious I know nothing so maybe I am way into fantasy land. :)

Could one expect a kind of woof script in future that allow us noobs
to accomplish the 32-bit if the developers have no time to let it have
its automatic course or is it a hard and tough job to make it 32-bit from
64-bit?

I apology if all this sounds very ridiculous. All of it is from my heart
caring about all these Linux users keen on the notion of single user root.

I am all for single user root but I do care about all these others
and want them to be able to have a good multi user Puppy Linux.
Nooby, I think it is better to start a new thread for 32-bit puppies and ask any current developer of 32-bit puppies whether they would like to include the multi-user functionality. For a start, we have 01micko lurking here ... 8)
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#154 Post by nooby »

Thanks I started a new thread here
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=79218

Title:
Wish 32-bit multi-user version of Fatdog64 for next Puppy!
I use Google Search on Puppy Forum
not an ideal solution though

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#155 Post by gcmartin »

nooby wrote:I am interested in a 32-bit version of Fat ...
Nooby, I thing FATSlacko has plans for extensions in this area.

Although this is not the thread to address this, let me ask you to post on the FATSlacko thread your answer:
  1. ARe you looking to have other users logon to the system's console?
  2. Are you looking to have other users remotely get a desktop on the local PC?
  3. Are you only looking to share "specific folders/files" with certain LAN PC users?
Please post there as FATSlacko may have an answer to several of these already. Further, in my testing thus far, its stable.

Here to help

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#156 Post by Gobbi »

jamesbond wrote:
Gobbi wrote:Using Skype with both Fatdog 521 and Lighthouse 5.14 was always possible only with Analogue Audio because the system recognized only the external analogue microphone and not ( no matter what I tried ) the digital microphone which is inside the usb webcam .

Is there any tweak :idea: that could arrange that by the time the Skype pet arrives :?:
I cannot promise anything. Skype is closed source software - you've got what they give out. All I did was to package skype with essential 32-bit libs so that it will work on Fatdog. How about using PuppyPhone instead :twisted:
Thank's for answering so fast ! My friends and relatives they are all using Skype and Yahoo ( easy Windows ... ).
I made a try and downloaded Skype from Fatdog 500 folder and tried to install it .
Guess what : it works fine on my system and more... it recognize now even the webcam microphone - all crystal clear .
So I guess Skype pet was complete - turning on the sound card made the program recognize all the ports of the system even all of the mobo's audio .

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#157 Post by smokey01 »

jamesbond wrote:
smokey01 wrote:Just tried to stream .mp4 from my website via seamonkey. VLC fires up but no video.

If you open VLC then use the URL it will work. Seems to be something wrong with Seamonkey's integration with VLC.
Do you have a sample link for us to try?
James, here is a little video made with this command:
ffmpeg -f alsa -i hw:0 -isync -f x11grab -s `xdpyinfo | grep -i dimensions: | sed 's/[^0-9]*pixels.*(.*).*//' | sed 's/[^0-9x]*//'` -r 25 -i :0.0 -sameq smokey.mp4

http://www.smokey01.com/grant/smokey.mp4

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#158 Post by kickstart »

My laptop is very picky about which Puppy it likes (to do with quad core i7 processor maybe?). Only Racy and Fatdog get everything (graphics, sound & all USB ports) running properly.

It loves this latest Fatdog and so do I, however it still doesn't carry out modeswitching for my mobile internet dongle. Rats! that means I still can't have Fatdog as sole OS, I still need to use another Puppy or Windows (yuk!) to switch modes before rebooting into Fatdog.

Any plans to include this facility in the next release? My working life dictates that I am doomed to using a HSDPA USB modem for internet access most of the time.

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#159 Post by 01micko »

smokey01 wrote:
jamesbond wrote:
smokey01 wrote:Just tried to stream .mp4 from my website via seamonkey. VLC fires up but no video.

If you open VLC then use the URL it will work. Seems to be something wrong with Seamonkey's integration with VLC.
Do you have a sample link for us to try?
James, here is a little video made with this command:
ffmpeg -f alsa -i hw:0 -isync -f x11grab -s `xdpyinfo | grep -i dimensions: | sed 's/[^0-9]*pixels.*(.*).*//' | sed 's/[^0-9x]*//'` -r 25 -i :0.0 -sameq smokey.mp4

http://www.smokey01.com/grant/smokey.mp4
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#160 Post by jamesbond »

01micko wrote:
smokey01 wrote:
jamesbond wrote: Do you have a sample link for us to try?
James, here is a little video made with this command:
ffmpeg -f alsa -i hw:0 -isync -f x11grab -s `xdpyinfo | grep -i dimensions: | sed 's/[^0-9]*pixels.*(.*).*//' | sed 's/[^0-9x]*//'` -r 25 -i :0.0 -sameq smokey.mp4

http://www.smokey01.com/grant/smokey.mp4
Working here in seamonkey and Iron
Confirmed Mick's finding in seamonkey.
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