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jakfish · Joined: 18 Jul 2008 Posts: 710

To any Lenovo S10-3t netvertible users, and perhaps other touchscreen users, DPup Exprimo 5.X.14 works even better than DPup-Exprimo 5.X.3.1.10.2: running temperatures are cooler, return-from-suspend functions without crashes, and its older kernel still contains the necessary hid-multitouch driver for the Cando touchscreen (along with needed drivers for the dreaded ClickPad touchpad)

Re: lower temperatures—my amateur opinion is this 2.6.39.4 kernel burns less than the 3.1.* While both kernels generate more heat than Windows 7, the 2.6.39.4 allows careful users to tinker and keep the roaring fan mostly at bay:

1) Powersave Mode
2) Wifi/BT off when not needed
3) Low-lit resolution
4) Wine/MS Word 97 uses less CPU than Softmaker (I haven’t installed Abiword, so can’t compare)
5) Even a couple of minutes of suspend greatly reduces running temperatures

Using suspend out of the box will crash the S10 upon return. But from the Ubuntu forums, I found that if you run the command

acpi_sleep=nonvs

in a script in /root/Startup, suspend functions well. Ubuntu forums suggest putting that command in grub, but my frugal install uses syslinux.cfg and I’m uncertain where to safely put it.

I wrote a HowTo about Dpup Exprimo and the S10-3t:

http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=614443

And its setup is pertinent with this Exprimo flavor as well.

Many thanks, as always, to pemasu, for crafting these fine systems,
Jake

edoc · Posted: Fri 18 May 2012, 15:08 Post subject: Subject description: GIT for 5x14?

The GIT resources that are displayed in Puppy Package Manager are unclear and numerous.

I went to the GIT site and they offer the following downloads:
[url]
http://git-scm.com/download/linux[/url]

Will any of these work as-is with 5x14?

Or do they require conversion of some sort?

edoc · Posted: Fri 18 May 2012, 19:26 Post subject:

Is git-core all I need for command line exercises with git?

Will this work directly with dpup Exprimo 5x14?

jim3630 · Joined: 13 Feb 2011 Posts: 793 Location: Northern Nevada

jakfish · Joined: 18 Jul 2008 Posts: 710

Hi, jim3630,

Glad to hear it's working out. Re suspend from console; I have trouble with that too, even with the acpi_sleep command already running.

Since I'm doin' the frugal install thing with the same Plug-n-stay Verbatim USB, I can't see much difference in speed b/w 5.14 and 5.3.*. Both pretty quick, but heat control much more manageable with older kernel.

I like to resurrect old laptops, always using a puppy flavor. I'm glad that 5.14 allows the same for the S10.

Jake

edoc · Kernel 3.2.14

James C · Joined: 26 Mar 2009 Posts: 4738 Location: Kentucky

James C · Joined: 26 Mar 2009 Posts: 4738 Location: Kentucky

Testing another old P3 so I grabbed 5.X.14..... live pfix=ram.Everything working on initial boot.

# report-video
Dpup Exprimo, version 5.X.14 on Mon 28 May 2012

Chip description:
2.0 VGA compatible controller
Intel Corporation 82815 Chipset Graphics Controller (CGC) (rev 02)
oem: Intel(R) 815 Chipset Video BIOS
product: Intel(R) 815 Chipset Hardware Version 0.0

X Server: Xorg
Driver used: is

X.Org version: 1.7.7
dimensions: 1024x768 pixels (321x241 millimeters)
depth of root window: 24 planes

...the above also recorded in /tmp/root/ as report-video,
and archived with xorg.conf and Xorg.0.log as report-video-full.gz
#
Actually using the "intel" driver.

-Computer-
Processor : Pentium III (Coppermine)
Memory : 513MB (169MB used)
Operating System : Unknown distribution
User Name : root (root)
Date/Time : Mon 28 May 2012 01:09:26 AM CDT
-Display-
Resolution : 1024x768 pixels
OpenGL Renderer : Unknown
X11 Vendor : The X.Org Foundation
-Multimedia-
Audio Adapter : ICH - Intel 82801BA-ICH
-Processor-
Name : Pentium III (Coppermine)
Family, model, stepping : 6, 8, 10 (Pentium III/Pentium III Xeon/Celeron)
Vendor : Intel
-Configuration-
Cache Size : 256kb
Frequency : 863.90MHz
BogoMIPS : 1727.80
Byte Order : Little Endian

Pretty quick on this old box.....

edoc

A helpful Forum member provided a PET to update the repository listing - thanks!

(I, of course, cannot immediately locate the URL for credit and a link.)

I grabbed MythTV and loaded it - and it ran cleanly.

Now it's asking a bunch of questions about settings for the "backend".

I tried to figure it out from this site: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV_mythtvsetup

It asks for language then SAVE.

Popup says "No UPnP", clicked OK.

SETTINGS

Hostname default localhost, I tried 127.0.0.1

Port default 3306, I also tried 6543 and 6544.

Database name: mythconverg

User: mythtv

Password: mythtv

SAVE

[ ] Use custom identifier for frrintend preferences
[ ] Enable database server wakeup

SAVE

Popup: "Cannot connect to port 3306" (also tried 6543 and 6544)

WDYT?

edoc · Posted: Mon 11 Jun 2012, 20:12 Post subject:

Any ideas as to why MythTV, downloaded from the Puppy Package Manager-linked repositories would have failed to execute these instructions correctly, please?

<http://code.mythtv.org/cgit/mythtv/tree/mythtv/database/mc.sql>

edoc

I need MySQL to get MythTV working.

It doesn't show up as an option in Puppy Package Manager.

A search brought up a 2009 thread about Hiawatha, which installs MySQL, but I don't want to create a mess with an old PET not made for Exprimo and containing lots more than just MySQL:

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=633613#633613

Where might I find a PET or SFS for MySQL, please?

jakfish · Joined: 18 Jul 2008 Posts: 710

In this dpup exprimo, even with pfix=ram install, I can't get the nolist option to work. In older jwms, for example, in /root/.jwm/jwmrc-personal, this would work to hide xhippo mp3 player in the jwm taskbar:

<Group>
<Name>xhippo</Name>
<Class>xhippo</Class>
<Option>nolist</Option>
</Group>

At first, I thought it was xhippo-specific error, but with a fresh install of dpup exprimo and using this, for example:

<Group>
<Name>Pdisk</Name>
<Class>Pdisk</Class>
<Option>nolist</Option>
</Group>

I'm still not able to hide Pdisk in the jwm taskbar.

Can anybody else replicate this, or suggest a workaround?

Thanks,
Jake

pemasu · Joined: 08 Jul 2009 Posts: 5166 Location: Finland

Jakfish. I am not expert in jwm tags. So how I did it. I checked the version of jwm, it was 574. Then I downloaded that source tar ball from Joe Wing`s site and extracted it. There is example.jwmrc and from there I found:
<Group>
<Name>gkrellm</Name>
<Option>nolist</Option>
<Option>sticky</Option>
</Group>

so...just test with:

<Group>
<Name>xhippo</Name>
<Option>nolist</Option>
<Option>sticky</Option>
</Group>

I just wonder how do you pop xhippo up again ? Or is this shippo (swallowed hippo)

The example file for future reference has been attached. Remove the phony .gz

jakfish · Joined: 18 Jul 2008 Posts: 710

Hi, pemasu,

Your new commands work! Perhaps there was some kind of un-noted change in later versions of jwm that now make my script obsolete (because my original jwm commands work in jwm versions in puppeee and in 4.31).

Yes, xhippo disappears completely if minimized. But since I have xbindkeys programmed for xhippo's basic commands, that's fine; in fact, it's convenient.

I can post those xhippo/xbindkeys commands if you need them.

Many thanks, once again, for your fast help. I searched everywhere, but could not find what you did.

Jake

P.S. in dpup exprimo, is it possible to copy all sfs files to RAM when booting? Something like jemimah's RAMBOOT app for puppy 4.31?

pemasu · Joined: 08 Jul 2009 Posts: 5166 Location: Finland

Jakfish. No. Dpup`s have standard init script. And will have. I use the latest available woof with its scripts. Ramboot possibility would mean editing init script in initrd.gz and that is out of scope. I think that Puppee and Fluppy are the only ones which had that Jemimah`s ramboot option. Now that there is heaps of ram...it would not be bad idea to awaken it again....but for me...it would mean that Barry Kauler would accept it to the woof.