I answered you at:Aitch wrote:Enrique
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http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 324#634324
because of we are no longer speaking about "other distros"
I answered you at:Aitch wrote:Enrique
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so the 64.000USD Q is. How does one frugal boot that one on NTFS?ttylinux, a small GNU/Linux system available for several CPU architectures.
This smallest ttylinux system has an 8 MB file system and runs on i486
computers within 28 MB of RAM, but provides a complete command line
environment and is ready for Internet access.
The goal this project is to make one of the smallest up-to-date Linux
systems that is similar to a larger distribution. An insteresting result is
the ttylinux build system.
End users may want to use ttylinux on old computers for accessing
the Internet, or bootable on a USB disk for a portable system.
Developers may want to use ttylinux for their embedded systems,
or use the ttylinux build system to create their own variant.
thanksEnrique wrote:I answered you at:
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 324#634324
because of we are no longer speaking about "other distros"
Given that Debian is so picky about security, it makes me wonder what exactly Flash is attempting to do that causes the system so many problems.Colonel Panic wrote:Just installed Solus 1.0, Almost ideal, except that it's the old story with Debian-based distros and Flash; Flash keeps crashing or not even starting.
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Maybe,l but I'd rather see a good opensource video player to replace Flash as an opensource video site would be unlikely to attract anything like the number of videos Youtube has. I don't know how good Gnash is these days.greengeek wrote:Given that Debian is so picky about security, it makes me wonder what exactly Flash is attempting to do that causes the system so many problems.Colonel Panic wrote:Just installed Solus 1.0, Almost ideal, except that it's the old story with Debian-based distros and Flash; Flash keeps crashing or not even starting.
There must be a reason why Apple kicked Flash into the trashcan, and I suspect it is a very insecure product. I wish we could replace it with some secure opensource format and get it to receive widespread acceptance on the web.
If only we had an opensource Youtube things might change for the better.
believe me or not, these things you are saying about this distro are actually features, an advanced linux expert finds it easier to develop stuff and do things from the console, also its nice to have complete control over the GUI. Simply put, there is nothing wrong with the distro... yes its unfriendly to newbies as it isnt a carbon copy of puppy or windows. Alot of people prefer to type endless commands to establish a network connection rather than booting to a X session with MTpaint and firefox icons and stuff everywhere and a useless firewall running. Some people actually need to monitor every process running on the system at the most basic level.Colonel Panic wrote:Rant alert.
Is Salix Ratpoison the unfriendliest distro ever? It certainly seems like it to me right now.
I've just installed Salix Ratpoison 13.37, and as usual had to give both a root password and a normal user name and password when the installation was in progress.
All went well until I actually tried to log in at the console (Salix seems to use init 4 by default). At first I got the message that no login manager like gdm or lxdm was installed and I had to use Ctrl-Alt-F6 to change console before I could do anything else (funny, I was never asked if I wanted to install one but still...).
Did that, and then I got the "System respawning - wait 5 minutes" message. After waiting perhaps 4 minutes, I logged again and typed in "startx" to start the window manager and load X11. I was met with a blank screen, apart from the blunt message: "Go away.", with a box to tick to show that I'd seen the message, but no mouse to actually access it (oh well, it is ratpoison I suppose).
I know enough about Linux to be able to edit an inittab file, and so I did this from Wary and changed to init 3 (my usual init setting).This time when I typed in startx I got the message, "Your TV is feeling lonely". That was enough frankly, I gave up.
I'm not without a sense of humour but sometimes I actually want to get stuff done. Apart from the other problems the distro had, messages like that give me the impression that I’m dealing with a bunch of frivolous devs (teenagers?) who don't care about the user experience of people using their distro and would rather have a laugh at their expense instead.
Rant over. It's sad this has happened as I have nothing but praise for the other version of Salix I've tried, Salix LXDE.
Thanks for taking the trouble to reply, but I don't get the impression you read my post properly.sickgut wrote:believe me or not, these things you are saying about this distro are actually features, an advanced linux expert finds it easier to develop stuff and do things from the console, also its nice to have complete control over the GUI. Simply put, there is nothing wrong with the distro... yes its unfriendly to newbies as it isnt a carbon copy of puppy or windows. Alot of people prefer to type endless commands to establish a network connection rather than booting to a X session with MTpaint and firefox icons and stuff everywhere and a useless firewall running. Some people actually need to monitor every process running on the system at the most basic level.Colonel Panic wrote:Rant alert.
Is Salix Ratpoison the unfriendliest distro ever? It certainly seems like it to me right now.
I've just installed Salix Ratpoison 13.37, and as usual had to give both a root password and a normal user name and password when the installation was in progress.
All went well until I actually tried to log in at the console (Salix seems to use init 4 by default). At first I got the message that no login manager like gdm or lxdm was installed and I had to use Ctrl-Alt-F6 to change console before I could do anything else (funny, I was never asked if I wanted to install one but still...).
Did that, and then I got the "System respawning - wait 5 minutes" message. After waiting perhaps 4 minutes, I logged again and typed in "startx" to start the window manager and load X11. I was met with a blank screen, apart from the blunt message: "Go away.", with a box to tick to show that I'd seen the message, but no mouse to actually access it (oh well, it is ratpoison I suppose).
I know enough about Linux to be able to edit an inittab file, and so I did this from Wary and changed to init 3 (my usual init setting).This time when I typed in startx I got the message, "Your TV is feeling lonely". That was enough frankly, I gave up.
I'm not without a sense of humour but sometimes I actually want to get stuff done. Apart from the other problems the distro had, messages like that give me the impression that I’m dealing with a bunch of frivolous devs (teenagers?) who don't care about the user experience of people using their distro and would rather have a laugh at their expense instead.
Rant over. It's sad this has happened as I have nothing but praise for the other version of Salix I've tried, Salix LXDE.
linux is extremely technical... it is being watered down to be a desktop distro that people expect to see when they switch on their computer.
Note that puppy is the exception to the rule as far as not using user and pass to login. If entering a user and pass is way too technical then dont use the distro. Ratpoison is for advanced users and techy type stuff can be done with it quicker and more efficient than say Ubuntu or Puppy etc.
if you need to be weaned into actual linux underworkings without Xorg or KDE or Gnome or openbox and roxfiler etc in the way then start with a debian standard iso, and then apt-get everything you need. You have complete control over what gets installed and you will learn.
in the meantime i dont mean to be nasty but there is nothing wrong with ratpoison as it does what it is designed to do. It is your knowledge and experience that is lacking. Many people prefer an absolute minimal desktop or to load xorg without a window manager and to enter a username and password.
I thought webm and VP8 was supposed to replace Flash (at least as far as Youtube is concerned):Colonel Panic wrote:Maybe,l but I'd rather see a good opensource video player to replace Flash as an opensource video site would be unlikely to attract anything like the number of videos Youtube has. I don't know how good Gnash is these days.
Thanks for the tip nooby, it worked! I logged in to Salix ratpoison as a normal user and had no problems; I'm posting from now. It's trying to log in as root which brings on all the rude messages.nooby wrote:"Go away!"
Haha I got some similar message when I wanted to startx too.
I wrote about it on their forum and they seemed very upset
with me wanting to be root.
Rude seems to be the best word for how they treated me with too.
Okay I am a very naive noob but now when they treat you the same way
then I trust that you are right. They do this on purpose or why else do they
go to such length measure that they have done here?
Thanks for the reply and the info. I've had a look at the web-m page you link to but I honestly wouldn't know where to go with this stuff; it looks like it's for experts only. I was hoping for a simpler solution, such as if someone had got Gnash to work well with Youtube vids.lmemsm wrote:I thought webm and VP8 was supposed to replace Flash (at least as far as Youtube is concerned):Colonel Panic wrote:Maybe,l but I'd rather see a good opensource video player to replace Flash as an opensource video site would be unlikely to attract anything like the number of videos Youtube has. I don't know how good Gnash is these days.
http://www.webmproject.org/code/
I heard there was an experimental version of YouTube designed to run webm instead of Flash. I don't use YouTube really, so I haven't pursued this any further. Just read about it.