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3novice78

Joined: 31 May 2012
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PostPosted: Thu 31 May 2012, 03:28    Post subject:  Installation Problems
Subject description: SeaMonkey 2.9.1 & Puppy Linux 4.3.1		  
I apologize for asking this question again but I have searched the forums for over one week now and I am not able to find a working solution. My problem is trying to install SeaMonkey 2.9.1 in Puppy Linux 4.3.1 (I have this because my computer is older and this works great on it). I am still new to linux but I enjoy learning about how to use it. If someone could please lead me in the right direction or if someone can post instructions for me I would greatly appreciate the help. Smile Oh! I did already try the suggestions from this forum and others but SeaMonkey 2.9.1 does not boot. I have SeaMonkey 1.1.8 (this comes with Puppy Linux 4.3.1) and I tried the update solution but it wouldn't update. Crying or Very sad
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Dewbie

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PostPosted: Thu 31 May 2012, 04:13    Post subject:  
You can either try this, or follow these instructions.
(replacing SeaMonkey 2.5 with the latest, which is available here)

Quote:
I have SeaMonkey 1.1.8 (this comes with Puppy Linux 4.3.1)

That's 1.1.18.
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8-bit


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PostPosted: Thu 31 May 2012, 05:49    Post subject:  
Be forwarned that the installation of a later version of SeaMonkey can wipe out your bookmarks and any stored passwords.
I had it happen to me in upgrading.
But I cannot remember what version it happened on.
So you should see if the version of SeaMonkey has an option to back up your bookmarks. I think it also does the passwords in the backup.
But you may want to hard copy them just in case.
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3novice78

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PostPosted: Fri 01 Jun 2012, 20:46    Post subject:    
Thank you for your help but unfortunately, I am still not able to get SeaMonkey to launch.
I think I may be missing something but I am not sure what it could be. I might have installed puppy linux incorrectly
but not sure because everything appears to be working okay.
Anyway, I only have one other question. Can someone point me in the direction of learning the correct commands
to use for Rxvt terminal?
Thanks again for the great help in this forum.
OH! Dewbie sorry I did not have the correct numbers for SeaMonkey
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Semme


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PostPosted: Fri 01 Jun 2012, 21:16    Post subject:  
I've read what you said about 4.3.1.. have you tried 5.2.8? I've got an older box and it flies!

If it's really SM you want you've gotta remove the older one beforehand.

Here, run: seamonkey out of a shell and post the results...
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Dewbie

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PostPosted: Fri 01 Jun 2012, 21:23    Post subject:  
Semme wrote:
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If it's really SM you want you've gotta remove the older one beforehand.

That will break PuppyBrowser (help browser) in 4.3.1, though.
(It's tied in to SeaMonkey 1.1.18.)
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?search_id=369143455&t=52196
PuppyBrowser is used for printer setup, etc.
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Semme


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PostPosted: Fri 01 Jun 2012, 21:46    Post subject:  
OK Dewbie- show's (sans search_id) all yours..
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Dewbie

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PostPosted: Sat 02 Jun 2012, 23:35    Post subject:  
3novice78 wrote:
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Thank you for your help but unfortunately, I am still not able to get SeaMonkey to launch.

I hadn't actually tried shinobar's SeaMonkey 2.9.1 .sfs till today.
(That's the first link I posted above.)
It's definitely the way to go. Smile

He was somehow able to make SeaMonkey 2.9.1 install as default browser without overwriting SeaMonkey 1.1.18. So PuppyBrowser remains functional, as it's dependent on 1.1.18.
(See screenshot below, from /usr/bin directory.)

To install the .sfs, copy it to the directory you have Puppy installed in.
Reboot.
A window will open, asking if you want it to load next time.
So add it to the list.
Reboot again, and it should be functional.

(If you go into /usr/bin and click on the seamonkey-1 icon, 1.1.18 will launch.)
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3novice78

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PostPosted: Mon 04 Jun 2012, 05:14    Post subject:  
Thank you everyone. I will try your suggestions soon and post the results. Thanks so much for helping a newbie learn and understand linux. Wink
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3novice78

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PostPosted: Thu 07 Jun 2012, 12:37    Post subject:  
Subject description: not solved		  
Dewbie - I tried your suggestions but for the last one I have no idea how to install an sfs file and I have no ideal what you mean. My puppy linux 4.3.1 was not working properly so I install puppy wary 5.0. I have tried to install newer versions of Linux OS (like someone suggested) but my computer gives me an error. So the highest I can go is Puppy Wary 5.0.
Anyway, I had to install Seamonkey 2.10 (it the one available now) and I still can't launch Seamonkey. I have decided to give up because I am just not expert enough to understand Linux commands. Everyone gives great suggestions but when I try them for some reason they don't work for me and I get frustrated because I know I am doing something wrong and I just can't figure it all out. Crying or Very sad Thank you for your time and I apologize for taking up your time. Sad
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Karl Godt


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PostPosted: Thu 07 Jun 2012, 18:43    Post subject:  
Iam running Seamonkey 1-1-18 at Macpup Opera2 based upon 4.3.1 and it does its job .

I would go to

http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/seamonkey/

fetch it what seems right , click on the tarball and answer all questions from xarchive with yes .

Sleep a night over it .
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Monsie


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Location: Kamloops BC Canada
PostPosted: Fri 08 Jun 2012, 00:15    Post subject: Installation Problems  
Hi 3novice78,

To launch SeaMonkey from the terminal:

Code:
cd /path/to/SeaMonkey
./seamonkey


You should be able to run SeaMonkey 2.9.1 in Wary Puppy 5.0 I am currently running this version of SeaMonkey in Wary Puppy 5.3 As Karl suggested, I would download SeaMonkey from the Mozilla site that he provided. Extract the downloaded package, then you should be able to launch SeaMonkey using the commands above. This is the easiest method in my experience. That said, there are a few things to consider in order to run SeaMonkey smoothly...
    run SeaMonkey 2.9.1 as a second browser instead of trying to upgrade your existing version of SeaMonkey,
    put SeaMonkey 2.9.1 in the recommended directory which is --> /usr/local/lib/ as stated in the seamonkey shell script
    make a separate profile for running SeaMonkey 2.9.1 if you are concerned about losing bookmarks and other data from your original SeaMonkey especially if it is version 1x


To create a separate profile for SeaMonkey 2.9.1 using the recommended location as defined in the shell script, run this command first before launching the browser:

Code:
cd /usr/local/lib/seamonkey
./seamonkey -profilemanager


Lastly, consider making a symlink to the seamonkey shell script if you don't want to bother with going to the terminal all of the time to launch the browser. I explained one way of doing so at the end of this thread here.

Hope this helps,
Monsie
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Dewbie

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PostPosted: Fri 08 Jun 2012, 00:46    Post subject:  
I wrote:
Quote:
To install the .sfs, copy it to the directory you have Puppy installed in.
Reboot.
A window will open, asking if you want it to load next time.
So add it to the list.
Reboot again, and it should be functional.

Oh, sh*t!
Here's what I meant:
Quote:
To install the .sfs, copy it to the partition you have Puppy installed on.

("partition" meaning sda1, sda2, etc.)
Does that make more sense?
Sorry about that. Confused
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RetroTechGuy


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PostPosted: Fri 08 Jun 2012, 11:47    Post subject:  
Semme wrote:
I've read what you said about 4.3.1.. have you tried 5.2.8? I've got an older box and it flies!

If it's really SM you want you've gotta remove the older one beforehand.

Here, run: seamonkey out of a shell and post the results...


And if it runs 4.3.1, it should run 5.2.8. I find the 5.28 seems to be less hardware intensive than 4.3.1.

If it needs a Retro, try 5.25 Retro (I have this running on an old 333MHz laptop).
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dk60902


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PostPosted: Fri 08 Jun 2012, 14:04    Post subject:  
Semme wrote:
I've read what you said about 4.3.1.. have you tried 5.2.8? I've got an older box and it flies!

If it's really SM you want you've gotta remove the older one beforehand.

Here, run: seamonkey out of a shell and post the results...


Please tell me the easiest way to uninstall an older version of SM. I'm using Slacko 5.3.2.4 as a frugal install. It comes w/ SM 2.7.2. I was able to update to 2.9.1, and update to 2.10.1 yesterday, but going to help - about SM - check for updates. However, I messed something up. I deleted the SM 2.9.1 tar that I downloaded from the SM website. I then downloaded 2.10.1 and followed the exact instructions that I did for 2.9.1, but when I try to launch SM, it shows the older version, 2.7.2. I was thinking that if I uninstall the old, and then install the new 2.10, 2.10 will launch.
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